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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:49 PM
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McCain is not getting any traction
Despite all the non-stop attacks on Obama, McCain is not getting any traction. Even the Republican-leaning Rasmussen poll shows Obama and McCain in a statistical tie. McCain is only slightly ahead in that poll -- and the numbers have been virtually unchanged during the numerous Obama attacks. This is despite the fact that McCain has been getting a free ride from the media for weeks.

Other polls, such as the Gallup poll (http://www.gallup.com/poll/106594/Gallup-Daily-Obama-49-Clinton-42.aspx) show Obama slightly ahead.

What is notable here it the consistency of the numbers. The numerous attacks on Obama are having no real impact and McCain is benefiting little from his free ride.

In a situation like this, it is reasonable to assume that McCain should be at the peak of his popularity. And yet, he's not getting much of a "bump."

McCain is going to have a hard time getting elected.

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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:51 PM
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1. McCain is a psychopathic moron
much like his buddy Bush. There is no way it will be even close unless they steal it. The media is attempting to create the idea that it is close, and then they will try to steal it. Why wouldn't they?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:53 PM
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3. Unfortunately, some people vote based on irrational fear
And if something (coincidentally of course) happens to make TERRAH!!! the thing in October, who knows what people will come up with as reasons not to change horses midstream and all that.
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N4457S Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:55 PM
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7. Obama...
...is fifteen points behind McCain in Florida. That's an unrecoverable deficit and he knows it. So does Hillary.

He has to carry Ohio and Pennsylvania. He must have them and there's no way around it.

If he can't decisively win both of those states, he won't have the Electoral numbers he needs.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:52 PM
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2. Much as I would love to believe that, 6 months is a long time
And people seem to respond to polls (and even vote) based on what they've heard in the last week or so.

I'm not saying McCain will win, but I think polls at this point are probably not that helpful. A lot can change in the economy, wars, lapel-pin-gate, etc. between now and then too.
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:57 PM
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4. Between now and then McCain will finally be vetted
And he will not stand up well to scrutiny.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:57 PM
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5. He's not getting traction NOW...
...the GOP-controlled media still has the summer to fill with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear%2C_uncertainty_and_doubt">FUD and an October surprise, they can't wait to launch.

This is a chess game, and the GOP aren't going to lose this pawn, not until they can stack the Supreme Court.
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N4457S Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:58 PM
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8. Damn...
...I didn't know Gene Amdahl was still around.

I administer a cluster of LPARs for a large university in the Bay Area. Much of the logical partitioning technology we use on a daily basis has its origin in Gene's work going back forty years or more.

He's gotta be older than dirt.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:22 PM
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10. Never met the man...
...I just think more people need to understand the idea behind FUD.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:58 PM
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6. obama is going to crush john
it won`t be the 70-29% that obama did to keyes but it`s going to be 10 or more points
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N4457S Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:59 PM
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9. Not If...
...he can't carry Ohio and Pennsylvania against Hillary, he won't. His picture will end up on the wall next to Kerry's and Gore's and Duke's.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:07 AM
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11. I noticed that. Interesting. Or are they holding back the big guns?
Somehow, I don't think so. They are on the waning side of power, that is why John gets the nod. The powers behind the Bushies think they are home free. How sad is that? Run away to South America.

Well, there are some of that say..."Go on ahead."

I learned that from my son. He was two. ...It can be quite effective, just not with me, then. ;)

Power is with she who claims it.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:37 AM
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12. Once our candidates start fighting McCain instead of each other
McCain is going to drop like a rock.
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:47 AM
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13. The RWers are just being patient.
They are waiting for Obama to get the nom so they can bring out the "Big Book of Shit We Have On Obama's Past". They probably have hundreds of people working all day to find quotes and incidents from Obama's life that they could use against him.

Maybe in the future if a former DUer ever ran for office the RWers would use his/her DU messages against him/her.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:51 AM
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14. Gramps Should Have A Double Digit Lead...
If you listened to our "beloved" corporate media, why even bother holding an election, just give Gramps the keys and let's get back to more Democrat bashing.

Thanks to Camp Clinton's aping right wing tactics, Gramps should be soaring to a big lead...flying above the poo flinging and coming off as the "leader"...but polls sure aren't showing that. His support is a mile wide and an inch thick...and even his corporate media enablers can't help that.

This election is showing a massive disconnect with the corporate media and the "common folks" (known in the beltway as the "great unwashed") and people are both wise and tired of the gotcha games. People don't care to vote for a person they want to have a beer with (especially of us who don't care for beer), but for the person who can fix some of the big messes of the past 7 plus years.

Gramps is welded to the "booosh legacy" and this will cost him dearly in the fall. We may see some reverse coat-tails this year as people who are pissed at their repugnican senator or congresscritter could deliver a real nasty message to the "straight bullshit talk express"...and its corporate media enablers. The fact that Democrats voted in such great numbers in the primaries...and the prolonged battle has gotten many more people involved this year than in the past. That's not good news for Gramps either.

Gramps has skated for the most part. We don't hear anything about his lobbyist problems or other conflicts...and we surely don't get a corporate media with any scrupples to put the same light on him as they have on the Democrats. We should expect this to continue, but this may be a good thing.

I honestly believe that the dismal performance of Gibson and Streptacocus the other night will help Senator Obama in PA rather than hurt him. People not only saw through this game but it could work to his benefit. Right now this is about as good as its gonna get for Gramps. Once the Democratic nomination is determined (and here's hoping that occurs after PA), the lines will be drawn and the real election will begin. Gramps will have a lot of 'splaining to do and his aww shucks style ain't gonna cut it. He's the best of a worst candidate the Democrats could ask for. If he can't be beat, no one can.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:01 AM
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15. He's another Bob Dole.
An old guy they decided to run because they couldn't find anyone else. He's a sacrificial lamb. Let him go out and take one for the GOP so they can pick over his corpse the next time around and decide what "he" did wrong, when really it's been the last 7 years of GOP rule that will cause them to lose the next election.
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