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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:24 PM
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Who knew? There actually IS a genetic flaw in some Mormon families
that will make a man father only girls. It comes from generations of inbreeding. :P

Learn something every day.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:26 PM
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1. Oy. You bad.
:banghead:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:27 PM
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2. Can i get you a riot shield?
:-)
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:28 PM
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3. Romney is no longer running
For now...
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:29 PM
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4. If they only father girls, and they marry a bunch of women and those women have more girls don't the...
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 03:31 PM by Mountainman
run the risk of making themselves extinct? At least it will slow down the polygamy.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:44 PM
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6. From what I'm learning about inbreeding in this group
They're in for a world of hurt with all kinds of genetic diseases.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:24 PM
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14. You don't need very many men for rapid breeding. You need lots of women.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:31 PM
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5. That might explain a family I know.
5 girls. No boys. Dad finally gave up and started giving the girls boys' names he had saved up.

And yeah, they're one of those old mormon families that's married to all the other mormon families, complete with "the look" (teeny tiny anime noses, blonde or ginger hair, freckles, really light skin.)
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:45 PM
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7. The incest factor is finally coming out. Incest Should Be a
prime factor in the hearings.

They are, indeed, driving themselves to extiction but not fast enough in my book. It has been stated that most of the people in the the Texas and AZ-Utah compounds come from only two families - Jessop being one of them.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:48 PM
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9. Barlow being the other one
Here's a fairly long article about inbreeding in the FLDS.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2005-12-29/news/forbidden-fruit/full
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:09 PM
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13. And the inbreeding is a threat to us all, in the long run.
In the case of fumerase deficiency, I read that at one point there were less than twenty cases known in the whole world. Now, thanks to the incubation of this recessive gene in these polygamist communities, the situation is very different. From your article:

"Of even greater concern was the fact that the recessive gene that triggers the disease was rapidly spreading to thousands of individuals living in the community because of decades of inbreeding."
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:47 PM
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8. I think you're being 100% humorous,
but it's possible that their boy babies have a lower survival rate, due to a genetic defect.....
Purely speculation on my part.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:00 PM
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10. These incestuous disorders created by polygamy
have been pretty much put under the table in both AZ and Utah because of the number of Mormons in both states - particuarly in the state legislatures and governments.

The problem has a much better chance of being brought out in the open in the state of Texas,
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:05 PM
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11. I think so, too, but another poster in another thread was seriously positing
that the skewed sex ratio at the YFZ ranch was due to genetic causes.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:08 PM
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12. Yeah, it's a genetic defect
n/t
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:35 PM
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15. FLDS Bakery since 1909 Three generations of our family in bread n/t
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 04:51 PM by Wiley50
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senaca Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:37 PM
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16. LDS/FLDS
I'm problably taking this wrong, but I hope your tongue and cheek post is not equating the LDS to FDLS. The LDS does not sanction the FLDS's practices.
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:42 PM
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17. No, they don't
However, because of strong sympathy with the FLDS cult (who live like grandma and grandpa did, "bless 'em"), it is very difficult for law enforcement and public officials to act. Read about former cult members who try to seek help from the government. It's pitiful. They're practically shunned.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:53 AM
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18. The articles I read about it said that since the "founder" population of Utah was small
there was a lot of cousin marriage and other inbreeding in the early days, and even now Utahns descended from the original pioneer families of Utah have a fairly high rate of some genetic diseases.

I was definitely NOT equating the modern LDS and the FLDS.

In the FLDS, apparently they've got a REALLY, REALLY high rate of some VERY rare genetic diseases, in part due to modern inbreeding in their closed communities.
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