Today I spoke with a moron. A citizen of Dumbfuckistan. The topic was 'socialized medicine'

[Stinky The Clown]

At my gym. The guy on the treadmill next to me. 65 years old .... 70, maybe?

The local nooz had a story on health care. They mentioned veterans. That led to a conversation involving this good citizen of Dumbfuckistan, another guy, and me. The conversation touched on our lack of national health care. So the moron brings up "socialized medicine".

You know they hate that term, right? "Socialized medicine".

So anyway, I ask him if he thinks vets get good care? He says, "Yeah, they sure do! We give them the ebst care in the world. They deserve it. Whatever they need they get. And I'm glad of it and glad Bush makes sure they get it." Or some such riff ...... doing that proud right wing head shake they all do when they think they scored a point.

"That's pretty much socialized medicine, you know," sez me.

"Yeah," sez he. "And that's why they have all the problems they do."

My treadmill timer went off. Mercifully, that was the end of my conversation with him, cuz I have NO idea how to even address that kind of thinking.

And I realized how true it is: "Dumbfuckistan ...... not a place, but a state of mind"

[YOY]

1. So it's the best but it's socialized so it's not so good?

That made no f***ing sense at all!

Did I understand that correctly?

[Stinky The Clown]

3. "Did I understand that correctly?"

I don't know. Did you?

Cuz I have no fucking idea either.

[YOY]

10. You're a better person than me.

Cos I would have told him loudly and proudly that it made no goddamn sense at all...unless there was sarcasm in there somewhere.

[CTyankee]

34. I think he was essentially talking about the Walter Reed Hospital situation.

So all you have to say is that that wasn't because of "socialized medicine" but because the Bush Administration and Republican Congress didn't see to it that the vets got the care they should have and how dare they? You could lay it on pretty thick and they'd just have to nod and agree with you that it is an outrage...

[Tesla]

5. They get to have it both ways

the're Republican...
It's written in their by-laws!

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. They get the best but it's a problem?

Sorry my brain did a cartwheel or something. :crazy:

[w8liftinglady]

4. that's why it's almost impossible to debate these people

they were born without synapses for their brain cells...

[Stinky The Clown]

18. I think yours is the most plausible explanation

No synapses ....... yup. That could be it.

[Richard Steele]

31. All of their mental gears are turning....

...but none of them are CONNECTED to any others.

[Rex]

6. Wow. Must be a Glen Beck watcher.

[ceile]

7. Brain....hurting.....

I don't understand his thinking at all.

[RaleighNCDUer]

20. It's not 'thinking'.

It is instinctual lizard-brain response.

Very common among republicans.

[zbdent]

21. Pavlov had smarter dogs ...

at least they equated the bell with something good for them ...

[mcctatas]

8. the cognitive dissonance that must be maintained at all times

for some of these people is an astounding feat of mental gymnastics!
:crazy:

[LakeSamish706]

9. So if the majority of US voters, vote for a John McCain then they deserve...

to live in "Dumbfuckistan" and quit whining about it! If McCain wins, that would be the most asinine thing that could happen in America.

[Cant trust em]

11. Him - "It's great because Bush made it so."

You - "Pretty much socialized medicine"

Him - "Yeah, it's terrible"


:wtf:

[AnneD]

12. Thanks for standing up.....

good on ya mate. I have tried time and again to explain this to my Mom. I write it off to encroaching senility....sigh

[DS1]

13. Jesus. I would have fantasized tripping him up and pushing his face against the track

I don't do well with dumb people

[tularetom]

14. My brother who is far more educated than I

is also a resident of Dumbfuckistan.

He knows socialized medicine is bad.

He is sure global climate change is a myth.

He knows stupid consumers caused the subprime mortgage crisis by borrowing more than they can pay back.

And he knows all this because he reads it in - the Wall Street Journal.

You are correct - there really is no response.

[izquierdista]

15. One could be tempted

To smack these people over the head with a 2x4 and see if they have any sense when they come to.

But that would be futile, as they have refined that way of non-thinking their entire lives.

[yardwork]

16. I don't know how you lasted as long as you did.

When I think of the hundreds of billions we've wasted in Iraq...

[raccoon]

17. This resident of Dumbfuckistan benefits from socialized medicine,

AKA "Medicare."

[TacticalPeek]

19. Percentage of Americans today who look positively on the phrase "socialized medicine":

45

:)

Harper's Index, May 2008

[End Of The Road]

22. Nope, not from Dumbfuckistan.

A 70-year-old guy in a gym on a treadmill? He's retired, still active, with enough disposable income to pay for a gym. He probably worked damn hard for that retirement, has paid a ton of taxes, and has probably voted in many elections. Yep, he's a Republican, and he has an entirely different political frame of reference from ours. But he could be your father, or your father-in-law, or your grandfather, and goddammit he deserves SOME respect. One of you would have fantasized about tripping him? I'm disgusted.

[Stinky The Clown]

23. I'm 60

Does that blow your argument?

[End Of The Road]

24. Not at all.

That guy probably went home and told his wife that he spoke with a citizen of Dumbfuckistan, and moran, at the gym today.

[iamahaingttta]

26. Ah... so people who can AFFORD to be stupid...

...deserve respect for it?

Nope!

He contradicted himself, thought he was scoring points and then backpedaled. That does not deserve respect. That is the definition of a Dumbfuck.

[Richard Steele]

32. Your opinion is duly noted. nm

[treestar]

39. He had it pretty good

He's got no sympathy for anyone who doesn't. Anyone who can't afford health care, and its 1)not his problem; 2) their own fault (they didn't work as hard as he did) and 3)his hard earned $$ should not go to them.

Oh, but when he is in :scared: of terra, those same people should go and risk their lives for him.

He thinks he is part of the white male elite. Hilariously, he's not, even with all his good luck and privileges.

Sure he's paid taxes. So do the rest of us.

[skypilot]

25. If you hadn't said that he was 65 or 70...

...I would have thought it was the idiot I had a discussion with this weekend.

I'm sitting at the bar and I overhear this guy to my left saying to someone "Ninety percent of Americans have health insurance." I look at the guy to my right (whom I didn't even know) and I say, "Did I hear what I think I just heard?" The guy nods his head and says "Yep". I sat there eavesdropping on the idiots conversation and then he starts talking to a woman sitting next to the "Yep" guy. She was wearing an Obama button. I wasn't exactly eavesdropping anymore at this point because the idiot was having to talk across me to address the woman. I don't even remember now what it was he said that finally set me off but I had to jump in. To make a long story short, he was one of those people who thinks that Bush is doing a good job because the country hasn't been attacked since 9/11. Blah, blah, blah. I almost lost my voice arguing with this guy. Ultimately, he shook my hand and said that we'd have to agree to disagree. He's voting for McCain of course. Idiot.

[HughBeaumont]

27. Kucinich:

"We're PAYING for universal health care . . . we're just not GETTING it!"

Oh look, Britney Spears took a shit. Care more about THAT! CARE MORE ABOUT THAT!!!!!11!!11!1!

[deaniac21]

28. I've found that generally, if you are talking on the treadmill,

you aren't working hard enough.

[Stinky The Clown]

30. I was in the five minute cool-down

How long do you go on the treadmill?

[deaniac21]

36. 5.5 miles in 45 minutes. 4 times a week.

[Stinky The Clown]

38. I'll bet you're a younger person than me

And not a cardiac rehab exerciser.

But good on you for working out so vigorously.

[kenny blankenship]

29. please, the correct term is "Socialist Medicine" (allows for a hissing sound to be injected)

or better yet, Marxist-Leninist Medicine, if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

[Hidden Stillness]

33. It was Just a Series of Taunts

This is just a classic example of what I think the real problem is, and that is that sometimes, these people are not giving actual answers or "debates" at all, but just have a fixed attitude of "hate liberals," etc., and so are trying to "win," or "beat you," or frustrate you, etc., and so their answers are actually totally disconnected from each other. Say this, and they come back with, "Blah," say that, and they say "Bleh," even though the two do not connect or make sense at all. Each comeback taunt is from a totally separate line of thought, and only responded to whatever you actually just said last, or even just an incidental wording--just to taunt. At the risk of sounding obvious, I don't think most of this shit is an attempt at a sincere answer at all; I think it is 25-30 years of free-ride for the rudeness of conservatives and Republicans, so that all they do is sneer and taunt. They don't even put together reasoned arguments anymore--up to now, they haven't had to; they always won, we folded, and they were never held accountable!

[TommyO]

35. At his age, he is probably on Medicare, and most likely thankful for it

All you needed to do was point out that hypocrisy.

[Juche]

41. That was my idea

Any 70 year old who hates universal healthcare is grossly uninformed and needs to be exposed as such as fast as possible, lest their memes infect other susceptible people. In an ideal world all sides of a debate would be informed, rational and share opinions on policy to build consensus and discover newer and better ideas. In the real world, disproving bullshit and hypocrisy takes up a huge amount of debate time when you are debating right wingers nowadays. Sad but true. It isn't about sharing ideas, it is about disproving the lies anymore.

[Ishoutandscream2]

37. Ah, the 29 percenters

No matter what, we'll always have them.

[lunatica]

40. A few years ago your head would have exploded

As your synaptic logic volts crashed inside your brain case in their attempt to make sense of what he said. Now, not so much.

:silly:

[provis99]

42. don't think of his reply too long or blood will shoot out your nose

He's passed the dumb fuckhead stage, and spun off into the completely insane phase of right wing identity.