DNA tests begin in polygamy case

[Ian David]

SAN ANGELO, Texas (AP) -- Lab workers began taking DNA samples Monday from the more than 400 children in state custody since a raid on a polygamist compound more than two weeks ago.

Officials hope the samples, to be taken by cheek swabs from the children and their parents, will help sort out the confusing family relationships in a convoluted custody case that has strained the resources of the child welfare system and the courts.

The testing is being conducted in the San Angelo Coliseum, where most of the children have been held since last week.

Judge Barbara Walther ordered the tests at the request of state officials, who have complained that members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have continually changed their names, possibly lied about their ages and sometimes had difficulty naming their relatives.

More:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/21/polygamist.retreat.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

[slackmaster]

1. This clusterfuck is going to determine that the whole sect is one big clusterfuck

:shrug:

[SoCalDem]

3. Yup..They will find a pretty muddled DNA profile

and plenty of Sister-Momma-Aunties and Uncle-Daddy-Cousin-Grandpas

[slackmaster]

4. And double first cousins, triple and quadruple second cousins

:crazy:

[SoCalDem]

7. Who's yer daddy? Get Jerry Springer..he'll sort it all out

:rofl:

[sam sarrha]

8. It'll prove the Pedophile leaders were shipping children across international/state lines for the

purpose of Under age Sex slavery..

they need a lot of new little girls.. if their Fetish is for prepubescent girls, say 8-12.. gotta have a new group every 4 years.. pretty soon you have to start your own Church branches elsewhere, and swap your slaves for theirs to prevent Incest..they have found girls from a similar polygamist compound in Canada.

this is going to be sooo big.. finally

[slackmaster]

10. The Mann Act and then some

I hope the pedos all fry.

[madmusic]

2. FLDS mothers ask Texas judge not to take away nursing children

The judge also received 35 habeas corpus petitions representing the seized children "illegally restrained" by CPS. Those documents were filed on April 15, but were not available until Monday.
In yet another FLDS raid-related development, coordinating attorneys, legal aid attorneys and guardians ad litem announced an undisclosed number of 20-30 young women whose adult status had been debated had indeed been determined to be legally adults.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_9002940

[JDPriestly]

5. They are collecting evidence so that they can prosecute the

fathers of the children born to children. That's my take on this.

I would like to see the evidence on the calls the police claim they received from an underage girl in the compound. I suspect that the police went in knowing the evidence they had was bogus. They were looking for an excuse.

[Ian David]

6. They probably had found a lower bidder for the cult's defense contracts. n/t

[JDPriestly]

16. I am strongly opposed to chld abuse in any form including underage marriages

or sex, however, I am beginning to question the procedures used by the authorities in this case. It would seem to me that they could have instituted an investigation and the child abuse cases in a way that cannot be challenged by good defense attorneys. It seems to me that they are putting these children through a lot of trauma, some of which, in some cases, might have been avoided. I fear that a well meaning effort to prosecute genuine wrongdoing will backfire on the authorities in this case because they were not careful enough to about the quality of the information that led to this. I doubt that all of the children have been abused. Surely some of them were born to families in which the parents had monogamous relationships. Protecting children from child abuse is very difficult. It is important to encourage confidence in the process. And I fear that the process that was used and is being used will cause less confidence.

For example, if it turns out that the woman who reported the child abuse is prosecuted for false reporting, people may be less likely to report suspicion of child abuse in the future. Careful respect for due process requirements at the police level and judicial levels is so important because failure to respect due process causes the public to distrust both the police and the courts.

[Ian David]

17. I'm trying to stop laughing. You said "Careful respect for due process" while Bush is pResident. n/t

[sam sarrha]

9. now they can get all the welfare money back, and make em pay child support. they have millions of

dollars, from slaving those women and children

[kestrel91316]

11. They are gonna get plenty of evidence of incest and statutory rape

from this, I am thinking.......

Works for me.

[Diane R]

12. I'm betting the fathers won't submit to testing. They don't care if they have the kids.

Read Carolyn Jessop's book, 'Escape'. She was forced to marry the man who is now the leader of the Eldorado compound when she was 18. Many of the people in the book are the women you see on television.

Those men often have 50 - 100 children. They often can't even recognize their own kids. They are not going to submit their DNA, knowing it will open them to criminal prosecution. They could care less about those kids; they just want to continue their cult of child rape.

My money says they are making plans to abandon the compound and head for Mexico with devoted followers, and begin again. I think Canada is closing in on them, and Mexico will be their new refuge.

I think Texas will support the kids and some of the mothers of the youngest children, for quite a while. A few women will take the opportunity to leave the cult, others will follow the group to Mexico because it's all they know.

I'll be very surprised if the men cooperate with testing (they have no motive to do so).

[Marrah_G]

14. That man was her stepfather

[Ikonoklast]

15. It's called a 'court order'.

They have no choice, comply or break the law.

And Mexico won't be paying them any welfare to subsidize their sick little scam.

[Marrah_G]

13. These assholes have wives , then marry those wives daughters

Think of it this way:

Joanna is married to John and has 4 kids. John has 20 other kids with 5 other wives.

John is kicked out and the wives and children are sent to live with 6 other men, who of course have 4 or 5 wives already themselves.

Then the new stepfathers marry the step daughters (yes this absolutely happens) and has children.

And so on and so on.

Since Warren Jeffs came into power he has twisted these family trees so badly that DNA is going to be a bitch.

[janx]

18. It started way before that.

I'm reading Under the Banner of Heaven. Generation after generation are all involved, primarily descended from two or three families.

[MissB]

19. Isn't it a fascinating book?