Which topics should be off limits when attacking McCain?

[ecstatic]

I just want to be clear on what is OK and not OK because I know there are a lot of McSame defenders on DU.

[TheCowsCameHome]

1. His newspaper boy's grandmother's pet lamb.

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. None...... The gloves are off...

I don't care what the party does, but on the internet
I will slam him every chance I get.

[truebrit71]

3. Seconded....

..

[AlCzervik]

4. let's see, what was off limits when John Kerry, Bill Clinton, Mike Dukakis and Mondale were running?

hmm, nothing.

Sorry all, i'm not interested in taking the high road this time. Flame away.

[niyad]

5. NONE ---if nothing is offlimits talking about the dems, NOTHING should be offlilmits in talking

about the other party, particularly when that party has so much to be talked about.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

6. Try posting the poll again when the Swift Boating begins.

And it will.

Hillary or Obama, doesn't matter. Every bedroom escapade, every snorted line, every toke, every tax return will be dragged through the mud.

FUCK McCain. He's fair game, as is everything in his world.

[Zynx]

7. Brainwashing/confessions. That's a garbage line of attack.

Also, do not attack his wife's mental problems. That's unbecoming of a human being to do so.

[Lautremont]

8. His bum.

[niyad]

9. for those of you who say his vietnam experience should be offlimits? WHY

or is it only repukes' vietnam experience (or lack thereof) be offlimits? certainly didn't stop the swiftboat liars when it came to kerry, did it? did you say anything then?

[Juche]

12. Because its unethical

Using the fact that someone was tortured in a POW camp is not fodder. It was to Bush in the 2000 primary election. And it was the Bush team who was behind the 2004 swift boat ad. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut they won both election. Hmm.

Who said swiftboating Kerry was ok? Both were revolting. Esp when a bunch of draft dodging chickenhawks like Rove, Cheney & Bush were behind it.

[niyad]

14. then by the same token, HE cannot mention his vietnam experience or how it makes him

the better person to be commander-in-chief.

please notice that I didn't say anybody here had said what happened to kerry was okay. I asked if anybody who voted that mccain's vietnam experience be off limits had said the same about kerry. just a bit different.

[Juche]

15. I said the same about Kerry being off limits

Kerry, Cleland, the way Rush Limbaugh calls Wesley Clark 'Ashley'. It is all pretty stupid and insulting esp when it comes from a bunch of chickenhawks on the radical right.

I'm not sure I follow your logic. There are certain sacred things that shouldn't be abused. THe way the Bush admin abuses 9/11 to take away civil rights or start wars in Iraq is immoral, and so would abusing McCain's experience as a POW.

[maui9002]

16. Because I felt the attacks on Kerry's service were wrong

If there is something about McCain's Vietnam service that bears on his ability to serve as president, an argument can be made that it's appropriate to review; but most of the claims I've seen have been the equivalent of the claims made against Kerry, which I believe were bogus and based far more on Kerry's opposition to the war after he returned home from the war.

[KSinTX]

19. As someone said on another board, the stuff will write itself

There is absolutely no need to go after his service to this country. Besides, who'll have time? Too much other crap on him.

[Virginia Dare]

23. If he senses this is a sacred cow..

then he will run on it. He already is. I say make him answer for everything.

[Zynx]

25. I thought the swiftboaters were way way way out of line in addition to dishonest.

I think attacking anyone's military service is absurd. I never question what someone did in the context of a war except for disgusting behavior such as genocide or something along those lines.

[VP505]

10. I understand why some feel that

nothing should be off limits, but the list of thing to slam McSame on is long enough that we really don't need to get into his Vietnam service or POW history. We just don't need to go to the same low level that the RePukes have and if some do its only going to come back to bite at a later time.

[maui9002]

17. Amen to that

and something tells me in this election that the elecorate is hungry for someone who will be more focused on what he or she can do for the country than why the other guy will be so bad. On the war, on taxes, on health care, on the economy, on foreign policy, and a host of other issues that affect Americans, both Democratic candidates have positions that are starkly different than McCain's, which are essentially more of the same we've had the last eight years; you just don't need to attack McCain's war record (and in fact, if the Democrats did, I think it might backfire--wouldn't be fair after what happened to John Kerry, but the possibility is there).

[Juche]

11. His POW experience

When he was a POW the vietnamese gave him an opportunity to go home because they wanted to use him as propaganda. They could say to the other POWs 'McCain went home because his dad is an Admiral. You have to stay here since your parents are nobodies'. McCain refused and stayed in Vietnam even though he could've gotten out.

Other then that though, have at him. His adultery; policies that are incompetent and benefit the rich; the disdain radical conservatives have for him; his anger problems; his inability to distinguish shi'ite from sunni; his affiliation with preachers like Hagee or Parsley; his changing opinions whenever expedient; his terrible academic record from school (not terribly important but after 8 years of Bush I want someone intelligent running things, esp compared to the academics of someone like Obama or Clinton); "I was against torture before I was for it"; his admitted lack of knowledge of economics; his war mongering; his belief that americans should fend for themselves in the subprime meltdown while he lives in luxury in his (wifes) 8 homes; his healthcare plan that wouldn't have covered his own cancer (ie he is willing to give the US citizens healthcare he himself doesn't want); his desire to run up trillions in debts and deficits on wars and tax cuts for the well off; his voting with Bush 89-95% of the time; etc.

Go for it. You don't need to bring up his POW experience to show how incompetent he is.

[Juche]

13. You forgot his illegitimate black child

Just saying

[Clear Blue Sky]

18. If he keeps talking about his Viet Nam service

then it's fair game. Just like it was for Kerry.

[Stinky The Clown]

20. His POW time

His time in Viet Nam is not sacred. Just his time as a POW. Not that its sacred so much as just off limits.

[Ichingcarpenter]

22. He waves that flag all the time, he did it again today...yesterday

He did it against Elizabeth Edwards. Like I said, I don't care what our nominee does
but on this site...... almost anything goes against this Keeting 5 criminal.

[NJSecularist]

21. Nothing is off-limits.

If he wants to make his Vietnam service a central part of his campaign, then we can, should and will ask him questions about it.

I do not care about the high road - I want to win the presidency.

[SeattleGirl]

24. I say Vietnam/POW experience.

Yes, the Swiftboater's did a big number on Kerry, so I can understand why some people responding here say McSame's Vietnam/POW experience shouldn't be off limits.

The main reason I think it should be off limits is that if he were attacked by the Dem nominee on this, it would make THEM look like pieces of shit, not McSame. Many, many people think, rightfully, that the US's use of torture is immoral, wrong, and unethical (not to mention probably illegal). To turn around and use McSame's experience as a POW against him would be suicidal for the Dems, not to mention the fact that it would make them look like the biggest hypocrites in the world. They can't be against torture, and then use McSame's experience being tortured against him.

He has plenty of other faults, problems, and stuff that they don't need to go there.

[Fox Mulder]

26. I don't think anything should be off limits.