Pilgrim where is your Visa?

[mac2]

X-Governor Jessie Ventura who appeared on the Meria Heller show said, the Pilgrims didn't have Visas (inferring no one needed them now).

My answer to him is the following: That might have been a good idea since they came here without permission of the American Indians and destroyed them in the end.

Same is happening today with "invaders". They are taking over our country. They even brag about it by climbing the capital building and planting the Mexican flag (no not American Mexican flag). They protest in the streets demanding citizenship, etc.

If they read our history they would know each state joined the union democratically. The Spanish owned California (and the indigenous Indians) not Mexico. By the way do they come illegally to Chicago or Iowa because they own that too?

Some of our Congress people join them but don't support American citizen workers rights, etc. They wouldn't be seen with ordinary working Americans.

The Pope is thrilled that America has so many new Catholics. That's why Senator Ted Kennedy approves of amnesty. Change our culture is an understatement. Change it to the Americans Union is another (Fascism). Democracy gone for the wealthy few (including the Vatican).

Jessie it is modern times and we don't roam the earth like pre-civilization man. We are over populated and the earth is stressed from us. When a country allows their population to expand without policy why should we give them homes, jobs, and benefits? Yes...they only want to have jobs but so do we. They don't add to our society like previous immigrants but feel they own it. That's what the Hispanic groups and the government of Mexico tells them.

[angrycarpenter]

1. I didn't see one word about taking action against employers

That is the key to doing something about it. So many policy proposals lack any punishment for knowingly hiring an illegal. Businesses caused this mess by firing their American workers and hiring these wage slaves at ridiculous wages and no benefits. Leaving them faultless and unpunished will solve nothing.

Free market mumbo-jumbo caused this crisis, and it fuels the drive to take a harsh punitive approach to illegal aliens and hands off of people who in many cases paid to have them brought here.

[mac2]

2. That's the solution and it worked in the past.

No they want them here as union breakers. They also want to "harmonize" our culture into the Mexican one.

I'd like to be further north in Canada to avoid the crime coming up from war torn and poverty striken S. America. Their religion also keeps them poor and down. I don't want the Catholic faith to be our national religion. It's not mine and I don't want to live that way.

Instead of bringing them up to us...we go way down to them.

[Hekate]

3. "Each state joined the union democratically"?! ROFLMAO Hawaii was stolen outright from its lawful...

...government, which had been until then ruled by an internationally recognized Queen. It then became the Territory of Hawaii -- and to be sure after several generations most of the people of Hawaii (who by that time were mostly NOT Hawaiian) asked to enter the union as a state.

Please. What with land purchases and land grabs and broken treaties ("as long as the sun shines," BS -- the Hawaiian people never even had a lying treaty to point to) and encouraging white settlers to move on in and homestead -- and outright theft -- thus the American Empire was built from sea to shining sea and beyond.

I'm an Irish-American and I love my native country, but oh you kidder. You've been listening to Lou Dobbs too much.

Hekate

[mac2]

5. Did Lou talk about Hawaii?

Joining the union was long discussed by Hawaii. Many of the Hawaiians aren't indigenous but Asian. None the less...there was a vote which is more than King Bush is giving us for his Americas Union.

The uniting of the Americas is the dream of his father's before he dies. They act like kings in medieval times. It's their goal not ours.

Bush should be impeached for this meeting in New Orleans since only Congress controls trade (with the support of constituents at home). No secret meetings with foreign leaders. He has violated the Constitution and his Presidential duties (trade deals and forming new government, negating our laws, and forming secret corporate ruling groups, etc. is beyond any leader's power in a democracy). It violates the Logan Act too since we did not elect him to represent us as such nor remove our borders, etc. Guess Bush brought democracy to Iraq but not to America.

Congress who turns over power to him and has a blind eye seeming to be part of this "conspiracy" to negate our democracy and borders. Call them today and demand they either follow our laws or resign. It is the over throw of our govenment without an army. It is within by our own leaders.

[Richard Steele]

4. Xenophobic and Dem-bashing is no way to go through life, son...