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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:25 PM
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I hereby dub this Congress:
The Castrato Congress.

That is all.

-Hoot
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:28 PM
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1. So, are you saying that they could at least make a lovely sounding choir? (nt)
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:42 PM
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7. Well there was the Singing of God Bless America
Before the Executive branch tried to rape the world.

-Hoot
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:44 PM
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8. And were not their tones dulcet and pleasing to the ear?
:D
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:53 PM
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12. Personally I found them to be a tad shrill and flat.
:P

:evilgrin:

-Hoot
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:16 PM
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17. They are the pampered songbirds of the Overclass. It's only the ungrateful proles who don't find
their music sweet.

sw
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:56 PM
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13. Let the eagle sour. n/t
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:28 PM
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2. Ah, yes.
"I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace, two are known as a law firm, and three or more become a congress! And by God, I have had this Congress!"

-- John Adams, "1776."
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:42 PM
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6. That's a great quote!
I have been thinking we should elect a new Congress to set things right, but it looks like this has been going on for quite some time. I don't know if they have ever been this corrupt though, I think it is still worth a try...
www.peacecandidates.com
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:30 PM
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3. I hereby christen it
the "Ain't-worth-a-bucket-of-warm-spit Congress"
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:34 PM
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4. It's the most obstructionist Congress in the history of the institution
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 09:36 PM by Mojambo
I haven't been happy with the results either, but the great Republican meme in the next election cycle is going to be the "Do nothing Democratic Congress!"

Lets not play into that meme.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:40 PM
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5. They haven't been a do nothing Congress...
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 09:42 PM by hootinholler
They've been a roll over and take it up the ass Congress. Both sides.

They haven't obstructed jack shit.

Hell they can't even fucking enforce a subpoena for christsakes.

-Hoot
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:46 PM
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9. The Republicans have threatened more fillibusters in this session than has ever been seen.
They have been an ENORMOUSLY, HISTORICALLY obstructionist minority.

And it needs to be pointed out, because they are going to be WAILING about the Democrats not getting anything done.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:52 PM
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11. The way to deal with that is to make them actually filibuster.
It merely demonstrates how ineffective the Democratic party was as a minority party.

Hold some bills, make the republicans actually stand there and talk for hours. Shit doesn't go the the floor of either chamber without the majority say so. The place to play hardball back is the agenda.

But they don't have the balls. I stand by my name.

-Hoot
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:07 PM
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15. I'd agree, and it's why Harry Reid should absolutely be removed as Senate Leader
But it doesn't change the fact that unless you want the Republicans regaining control you'd better effectively label them as the extreme obstructionists that they are.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:02 PM
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14. They're Facing The Most Obstinate Executive...
The damage the repugnicans have done to all three branches of government since 1994 has been devestating and it will take years to fix some of the damage. Democrats are damned if they do, damned if they don't. This regime has done everything it can to obstruct and operate outside both the Constitution and the law, but they're protected by GOOP enablers who make sure a Veto is never overridden and have obstructed on their own.

No question Democrats in the House were punchdrunk...afraid of getting pummeled by the corporate media and hate radio, but the recent victories on FISA and S-CHIP achieved what I felt was the best this Congress was going to do...and that was to slow down this regime and keep it in check. In many ways that has happened...for good and bad.

I agree that Conyers and Leahy have been timid in their prosecution of subpoenas. The case now pending to determine "executive privilidge" should have been filed a year ago...they knew it would come to this point and wasted precious time in the process.

Remember, we deal with an executive that operates to its own designs and expecting Democrats to overturn 12 year of Repugnican abuses of the Congress (remember DeLay) and 6 years of total plunder of all three branches. The damage will take years to clean out...but at least there's hope.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:11 PM
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16. "damned if they do, damned if they don't"
Agreed, and the way to deal with that is to do.

They have the power of subpoena and the power to enforce them when they are refused, as they have been.

Even if they don't hold anyone in inherent contempt, all the leadership has to do is halt business until they are answered. When the press whines there is one answer: When the subpoena is properly answered we can get some work done.

It's bad enough when you can't obstruct a harmful agenda while your the minority, but the Executive has admitted that the Cabinet planned international crimes and the Executive approved, and the majority can't take them to task? Bullshit.

-Hoot
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:50 PM
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10. I have been wondering what 'they' did to Kucinich
Remember he vowed to introduce Impeachment of Bush at the State of the Union? Then he suddenly decided not to, and has been strangely quiet since then. Makes ya wonder-What are they doing to our Congressional members behind closed doors??


Kucinich to Introduce Impeachment of Bush Before State of the Union January 28
http://peacecandidates.com/blog/nadia/01/24/kucinich_introduce_impeachment
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:32 PM
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18. Are you calling them Unix?
I'd say they're Windows, because of how they freeze up.

:)
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:59 AM
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20. No, Unix actually works.
I always thought that an unfortunate homonym.

-Hoot
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:47 PM
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19. That's Enough!


Enough, I say!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:12 AM
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21. GO ahead Nancy!
Use that whip! I triple dog dare ya!

What is it about female politicians and that grimacing forced smile?

-Hoot
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:14 AM
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22. Unfair. They have showed the highest Democratic unity score in 51 years.
"President Bush's success rating in the Democratic-controlled House has fallen this year to a half-century low, and he prevailed on only 14 percent of the 76 roll call votes on which he took a clear position.

"So far this year, Democrats have backed the majority position of their caucus 91 percent of the time on average on such votes. That marks the highest Democratic unity score in 51 years."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1728952&mesg_id=1728952
http://public.cq.com/docs/cqt/news110-000002576765.html

Don't let the media rhetoric fool you. The Democrats have acquitted themselves quite well--especially given their bare majority in both houses, and a relentlessly obstructionist Republican minority.

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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:28 PM
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24. WTF is a unity score? - some worthless piece of PR spin. n/t
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:32 PM
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23. But I'm sure they all have flag pins on their lapels.
Calling them castrati is an insult to Farinelli, Guadagni, etal.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:41 PM
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25. Complicit. n/t
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