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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 10:39 PM Original message |
Does this give you more or less confidence in "science" . . . ??? |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Your question makes no sense |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I agree. There's nothing there that has any bearing upon my "confidence in science". nm |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. EXPLAINING MY QUESTION . . . !!! |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I think you are reading too much into what he's saying. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #23 |
52. Actually, he's reading too much into... |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Hawking is all about thinking outside the bounds of what we can |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. How are the presumptions that Hawking is making "thinking outside of the |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. He's only human. Censoring himself because it might seem somehow |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #69 |
192. I want our scinetists not to be philosophers |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #192 |
219. I'm not against a scientist also being a philosopher as long as the science |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #61 |
127. Not really |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #127 |
129. No ..... we don't know anything of the kind . . |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 03:17 AM Response to Reply #129 |
140. You're correct in that guesses are not science. However, inferences are. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #140 |
152. Let's see . . . this administration inferred that Iraq had WMD et al . .. |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #152 |
179. Once again, a shocking depth of misunderstanding. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #129 |
149. We sure do |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #149 |
153. So you're stating emphatically that there are no Parallel Universes . . . ? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #153 |
162. Einstein never had anything to say on the subject. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #162 |
168. The shortest distance between two points is .... |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #168 |
172. "Created by Nick and Julie." Good reference? Seriously now, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #172 |
195. Or Univ. of Pennsylvania, Dept. of Physics --for anyone interested . . . |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #195 |
226. Einstein didn't go to U. Penn. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #153 |
177. einstein? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #177 |
196. Evidently, it is not so much Einstein as the inevitable . . . |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #196 |
212. parallel lines cannot meet |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #196 |
222. That should say universes . . . |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
176. no, that is theoretical physics |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #176 |
199. Interesting post . . . |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 03:38 AM Response to Reply #199 |
205. ...but a nonsensical reply. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #176 |
214. The Math Is Not Insane! |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #214 |
216. c'mon now, Prof |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #216 |
218. Sorry, I Forgot! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. No . . . the comment about science being . . . |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
90. SETI has picked up something unexplainable. They call it the" WOW signal." |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #90 |
102. Hardly unexplainable. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Unique may be a better word. But it hasn't been explained away. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
189. Science is NOT only and merely observing nature |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
3. what does your question have to do with the article ? |
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evlbstrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
4. Nope. |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. Less, in Hawking |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. A general rule of thumb is that anywhere there is liquid water, there is life... |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. There is Life everywhere |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
35. The biggest problem is the Fermi Paradox... |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #35 |
45. My guess would be that the Fermi Paradox is not |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. It wouldn't have to be thousands of years |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
68. Wait . . . |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 03:03 AM Response to Reply #68 |
138. So now Madeleine L'Engle is more of an authority than Stephen Hawking? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #68 |
169. "A Wrinkle of Time" is a great book... |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #45 |
187. Who say's you have to go from one planet to another? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 03:21 AM Response to Reply #45 |
204. You don't need warp speed to spread throughout the Galaxy, just time... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
67. I am rather shocked that we have a "scientist" who is not considering . . . |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #67 |
81. Yeah ok, but I have one simple question: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #81 |
131. You don't understand that there could be other dimensions |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 03:09 AM Response to Reply #131 |
139. Other nondetectable dimensions? Load of crap. That's just a type of appeal to the supernatural |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #139 |
151. Really...? See Einstein's Parallel Universes . .. |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #151 |
181. Dimensions and parallel universes are two different things |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #181 |
221. I'm hoping this thread is a prank- |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #67 |
88. I'm mad at Stephen Hawking for not considering invisible purple dragons. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:49 AM Response to Reply #67 |
143. you watch too much star trek or smoke too much dope... |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #143 |
182. My vote goes for "both" |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
104. Oh, I believe they are out there all right... they are just smart enough |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
188. The other problem is mentioned in the Drake equation |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:04 AM Response to Reply #35 |
231. The one thing no-one seems to bring up about the Fermi paradox is... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
66. Right . . . |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
148. Cripes, you're criticizing a scientist for insufficient flights of fancy? |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
47. I believe that wherever the basic building blocks of life, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
70. Love your comments . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
62. Of course there is going to be life in the universe . . . that isn't the question . . . |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
147. It's a rule of thumb that works well here. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #147 |
202. You are wrong in your assumptions about life, just flat out wrong... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
65. Agree . . . and . . |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. Science is a process, one that is self correcting... |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
7. "Larry Flynt is right! You guys stink!" |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
8. Neither in relation to science, but I just lost a lot of respect for Hawking |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Why? nt |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Why? |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Because he discounts UFOs as things seen only by cranks & weirdos |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Me too. n/t |
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ToeBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #14 |
59. It's one thing to see something not easily explained, another to assume it's a probulating alien. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
72. Well . . . |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
110. Did you read my entire post? I said I don't know |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #110 |
213. there is a clear implication |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
64. "There are plenty of level-headed people" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. Except when they do snap a photo -- |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. that is based on the assumption . . . |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. "...maybe we're too friggin insane..." |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
75. Oh, wonderful reply . . . !!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
71. For the same reasons . . . |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #71 |
193. oh em gee. just noticed you're bashing Sagan, too. You know he helped get SETI going? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Why is that? nm |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
190. I'm sure he is crushed. n/t |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. Non sequitur. |
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tomtomtom (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
11. Maybe Hawking is the alien |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
76. Ah . . . |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
17. This is just idle speculation, |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
19. i don't think the question is valid and i don't know but i think it's arrogant of us |
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Phoonzang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
21. I was kinda with you until... |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
46. Well, the race for the militarization of space is real. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
78. If we persist with Star Wars, it will force other nations to either join |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
77. This is the same gene pool which . . . |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
22. I've lost 100% respect |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #22 |
55. 'Cause science is all scary and stuff. ;-) nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
79. "Science" because there are .... |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
116. Does Stephen Hawking deserve to be called a "scientist"? n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #116 |
130. Based on what he's saying and guessing at here . . . |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #130 |
160. Wow. n/t |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:39 AM Response to Reply #116 |
208. Yes, but his writing is misunderstood by some who aren't. n/t |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #208 |
217. Just wanted to hear him say it :P n/t |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
24. There almost certainly *IS* intelligent life somewhere in the universe. |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. While I agree with most of your words, and also with the fact... |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. No species lasts forever, and that includes humanity. |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Both you and I won't be there to tell... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Sol will not go supernova |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Possible, but not "almost certain". |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
83. Like the "green" comments. . . |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
27. I was kind of with you until "science is merely and only observation of nature" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
84. Interesting comments on Hawking's .... |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
28. I have confidence in my lucky astrology mood watch |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
53. Steve Martin! |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
32. Science is not 'merely and only observation of nature' |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
86. And what do you do after "forming and testing hypotheses" . . |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #86 |
223. Probability not prediction |
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muryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
33. The sad truth is that Intelligence life exists |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
87. Why would you want the "human race" as we know it to continue on? |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #87 |
191. Isn't that an entirely different question and in fact topic? n/t |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 03:07 AM Response to Reply #87 |
203. What have we done but brought destruction? Well, let's see. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:07 AM Response to Original message |
34. It is naive to think that this planet is the only one with life.. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
36. Primitive life means cells and algae, not sentient beings and Star Trek. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
38. He's right in that extraterrestrial life is likely to be quite small. |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
39. It gives me a lot less confidence in you. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Very nice response. |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. I generally agree except about communication. |
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Harry Monroe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #49 |
156. And if they are receiving our "communications", then it would be understandable... |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #39 |
56. An absolutely fantastic reply, GaYellowDawg |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
89. And, after you "infer" something . . . what do you do? |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #89 |
113. No! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #113 |
120. Nothing can be established nor relationships delineated without observation . . . |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #120 |
132. It does not mean that science is confined to observation. |
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coriolis (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
40. Get a grip. |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
41. Hawking seems spot-on to me. |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
42. When the smartest dude on Earth talks, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
93. No . .. I'm saying that we have to recognize within science that there are |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
48. For what it's worth, UFO's on earth are real. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #48 |
194. Akien UFO's any proven? citation? n/y |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
51. You hold humanity to too high of a standard |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
95. What "advances" .... ????? |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #95 |
112. There are alot of advances, but you aren't seeing them |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #112 |
118. Evidently, you don't understand the severity of Global Warming . . . !!! |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 02:21 AM Response to Reply #118 |
133. Good lord, there's some stupid stuff in here. |
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Phoonzang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
54. SETI is flawed |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
96. Thanks for the info re SETI --- |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
58. The probability of life elsewhere in the universe is somewhere between 0 and 100% inclusive. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
63. It doesn't give me much confidence in science education... |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 03:41 AM Response to Reply #63 |
206. Boy, you aren't kidding. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
74. Are you picking on Hawking?? |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
80. Yeah, that Stephen Hawking guy... |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #80 |
101. Everybody has their moments. |
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sammythecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #80 |
111. While I have the utmost respect for him, |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
82. Gee let me think about this for a minute... |
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sammythecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:15 AM Response to Reply #82 |
141. Here's another one to ponder: |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
85. Can someone explain post #67 to me? Didn't think so! This thread has gone through The Scary Door: |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. It's called logorrhea. |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
92. doesn't affect my view of science, but I'm losing some confidence in DUers |
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jobendorfer (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
94. Apples & Oranges? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link . . . |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. "No -- it is WE who are firing on UFO's --- from the first sightings during WWII ---" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #98 |
117. No -- Star Wars --- seems to be about .... |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
99. More! We have what is believed to be a fossilized microbe from Mars. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Nah, that was debunked. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #100 |
107. That's possible. The same with the mars face. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. It's considerably less than the Old Man in the Mountain. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. I could be matrixing. But the eye is erie. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #115 |
163. Why would you accept that? |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #163 |
175. That's why I said, I could be matrixing. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #107 |
121. Actually, taken alone it could be . . . |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 03:02 AM Response to Reply #121 |
137. No, it couldn't. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #121 |
161. Here's a bit more info . . . |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
103. I think there are beings close by... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #103 |
122. As they say, a lot of truth in humor --- !!! |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #122 |
136. As who says? There's also a lot of bullshit in humor, too. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
105. I Didn't See Any Science Being Practiced in Those Comments |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #105 |
123. When science tries to dismiss the testimony of witnesses . . . |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #123 |
134. ROTFLOL... misunderstanding again... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #134 |
157. You mean like our system of "slash and burn" medicine . . . ? |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #157 |
178. I am not referring to medicine. I am referring to science. Different disciplines. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #178 |
200. Look . . . . |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:42 AM Response to Reply #200 |
201. Manner? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #201 |
220. You got it . . . !! |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #123 |
145. Not Believing in Personal Testimony is Not the Same as "Dismissing" It |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #145 |
158. When you refer to eye-witnesses as ... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #158 |
164. What if they really are cranks and weirdos? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #164 |
166. What if Hawking is a crank and weirdo on this question . . . |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #166 |
224. This is Why You are Not a Scientist |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #166 |
227. Hawking is not making a wild and extraordinary claim. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #166 |
228. Loch. It's Loch. n/t |
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sammythecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
108. Well I'm in agreement with you. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #108 |
124. Nice bit of writing --- interesting observations . . . !!! |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #124 |
135. Not a bit of observation to it. It's all speculation. |
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sammythecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:14 AM Response to Reply #135 |
142. Look at it this way. |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #142 |
144. A few things: |
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sammythecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #144 |
174. Stay tuned ! I'm working on a response. |
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sammythecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #144 |
185. Some concessions but the same answer |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. It's not really that complicated. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #142 |
154. It is also dismissive of Einstein's Parallel Universes . . . . . |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #154 |
183. I'm sure Hawking hasn't heard of it... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #135 |
155. No -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #108 |
125. Nice bit of writing --- interesting observations . . . !!! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #108 |
170. this is exactly what I think too. life abounds on earth. we have no experience of lifelessness. |
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CANDO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
114. I've always wondered why we humans on Earth assume alien life to be intelligent. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #114 |
126. Or they may be . . . |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
119. Hawking is such a tool... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #119 |
128. The aliens are coming, the aliens are coming --- |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
146. Less confidence. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #146 |
165. "Hypothesis", eh? |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #146 |
167. You aren't saying we should stop trying to find life elsewhere, are you? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #167 |
171. Absolutely not. Consider it a dare. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #146 |
210. It is a hypothesis. |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
150. "there don't seem to be any advanced intelligent beings" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
159. Basically, what I think everyone should see in this is the |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
173. I think that YOU are the idiot in this equation. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #173 |
211. Seems like repug- anti-science disinformation |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
180. Seems like Stephen may be talking out of his ass |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #180 |
184. He said it doesn't seem like there's intelligent life in our immediate vicinity. Hardly a definitive |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
197. Stephen Hawking is smarter than everyone on this board. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #197 |
198. You're forgetting the parallel lines! Hawking is a MOSSAD disinfo agent! n/t |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:35 AM Response to Reply #198 |
207. Or simply an example of: The Age of American Unreason |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
209. ... |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
215. Ah ha, he must not of thought that one out too much |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
225. Nonsense cubed |
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josephinemolix (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
229. Hawkins is too pessimistic |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
230. K&R |
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Freedom Train (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
232. Hmm, let's see... |
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