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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:39 PM
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Calling All Former Republicans: Tell Your Story
Many of use here at one point or another used to be Republicans. I used to be one up until around 2000. I am curious why you were a Republican and what made you change. Were you raised by Republicans? Did you have some views of Democrats that made you a Republican for a time? What sorts of views did you have on both economic and social issues? What happened that made you change?

Here's my story:

For me, I affiliated as a Republican when I was a youngster. The first time I could vote was 2004 and I voted as a Democrat, but I was politically aware from 1992 onward and I first supported George H.W. Bush and then Dole in 1996. My parents disliked Clinton and I personally did on my own too. At the time I was a miniature moral crusader who heavily identified with Catholicism. Arguably I was far more conservative than my parents were as they are basically libertarians who drift back and forth from election to election. I viewed the Democrats as being anything from immoral to snobbish because most of my experience with Democrats growing up was with Mercedes Benz liberals from Whitefish Bay and the upper east-side of Milwaukee.

I was absolutely convinced that big government was bad for people's character as I bought the argument against Wisconsin's welfare program hook, line, sinker, and rod. I thought everyone on welfare was just a lazy criminal who didn't want to work and wanted to suck off the public's teat. I also supported damn near fascist policies regarding criminal justice including greater use of the death penalty and extreme punishments because in my mind deterence was effective. In the later 1990s I became the ultimate free marketeer supporting lower taxes, less regulation, and practically letting corporations run everything because I had drunk the kool-aid that corporations are more efficient than government even though my maternal grandparents, with a combined 8 decades of federal government experience behind them, told me otherwise.

This all changed starting in 1999 when a close aquaintence(I won't specify who) of mine got mixed up in the criminal justice system and I became fully aware of how my simplistic views of right and wrong in the world were terribly misplaced. I saw that the system that I viewed as the envy of the world was hardly anything like what I thought it was and instead was horribly flawed with grave injustices and terribly disproportionate punishments. My unforgiving "fuck the world" views softened dramatically and I increasingly trended toward forgiveness as that situation moved on through the months and years that it took to get resolved. When I saw the ugliness of conservatism toward the misfortunate I went through a rapid conversion.

However, I still was prepared to support Republicans in 2000 until two things happened. One was the primary run of George W. Bush and the other was the stock market crash of the same year. In early 2000 I scraped some money together, $250, and socked it in a mutual fund that had a very low minimum with remarkably terrible timing as you can see. I was fascinated by the stock market and wanted a piece of it with the impatience only a 13 year-old can have. As I followed the situation closely, my view of the infallible free-market collapsed as I saw the inefficiencies and delinquencies of the market first-hand. I became a successful investor out of the experience of it all, but my philosophical view of the market changed forever. I forever support the role of government intervention in reining in market excesses now.

As for Bush, he sealed the deal. What did it for me, largely due to my reformed views on criminal justice, was his insensitive and cavalier attitude on the death penalty. I found his lack of concern for human life appalling. Further, after seeing the world of Wall Street crumble in 2000, his insistence on market solutions for everything frightened me. Further still, and this was even before the implosion of the NASDAQ, was his dispicable campaign against John McCain, who is certainly with his own flaws, but appeared to be a saint compared to Bush. All of these things had me completely over the edge to the point not only did I support Gore to the max, but I found myself wanting a Speaker Gephardt and Majority Leader Daschle, even though just a year previously I hated both of them. Suddenly I realized just how horrid a Republican government could be led by Bush and that crop of Republicans.

I have to put this explanation on some of what I used to support. It was not that I was poorly educated. Far from it. Our household is its very own university with constant discussions of public policy, history, culture, etc. However, it is possible to be well educated and well informed and hold those views if you look at all the information in front of you with the improper lense. Information is not sufficient, but it requires a proper perspective and a good measure of experience. This is why when some here simply think "informing" people is sufficient I nearly want to scream. It really isn't.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:44 PM
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1. i was raised by republicans
but I ran away from home at fifteen and joined the circus.
been a democrat ever since
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:44 PM
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2. Being raised by hardcore Republicans can make one want to run away.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:25 PM
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10. and spending time in the circus
can make one a democrat
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ristruck Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:52 PM
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3. Process
For me it was a process. I voted for Bush twice. I am one of those who voted out of religious conviction for the pro-life candidate. I knew the war was wrong but I could not let go of the indoctrination of the religious right.

A good female employee of mine began to work on me. She is agnostic and had engaged me in discussions about religion. I challenged her to read the Bible. She agreed if I would read some literature on the progressive movement.

I began a slow journey of reading, thinking for myself, and questioning everything all over again. I concluded that I had been lied to many times. I got mad. Then I felt stupid. Then I got mad again.

I have kept my faith and it is now stronger. But I am a proud progressive. I am still pro-life but I get the whole manipulation part of the right wing.

I will vote Democrat no matter what.

My employee read the Bible and she is now attending church. We both talk politics over lunch and I am grateful to her for challenging my narrowness. I am ashamed of my votes and my ignorance but proud that I had the help to change. My right wing religious friends are now my targets!!
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:55 PM
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5. Interesting story and you sound like an interesting Democrat.
Thank you for your tale. :-)
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:55 PM
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6. What a great story!
You both gained something from listening to the other.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:56 PM
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7. If everyone would just stop being so closed minded and would just sit down
and realize most people are decent and not out to destroy one another, we could get a great deal more done. I used to be far more cynical, part of the reason I used to be Republican, but I realize most people are good.
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ristruck Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:03 PM
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8. I feel very free.
"It is hard to imagine the freedom you find from the things you leave behind." Michael Card



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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:20 PM
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9. Good stuff.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:53 PM
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4. I've always been a Dem, but someone in my family....
... married a Repuke and joined an evangelical church to please the spouse. This family member began to accept some pretty out there stuff, like Creationism, Republicanism, the concept that a spirit is present in the zygote and abortion is like the murder of a viable human. (She paraded outside of abortion clinics yelling at the people that entered it, for ex.)

The good news is that some tragedies befell her which made her realize how false and egotistical Republicanist ideology and evangelical churches are. She still believes in God but now she's to the left of Karl Marx and believes that Republicans are divided up into 2 groups: Mentally ill people and evil people.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:07 AM
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11. I've heard a number of stories similar to this one.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:20 AM
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12. *kick*
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:31 AM
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13. i was neither, still not, and have real issue with authoritarian liberal. hubby repug
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 11:19 AM by seabeyond
i never felt a loyalty to vote either party and voted off what candidate said and what i felt the balance in the country needed for healing, basically. no issue the voting point, but a whole. when i watched the repugs go after clinton and the tromping on constitution and no one battled them on it, the manipulation of media, i had to stand next to clinton and hated it. i think he is a pig male and i really didn't want to but what repugs were doing was way more dangerous than clinton being a pig male. every since i have had to stand with dems because of the dishonesty of repugs and controlled media to manipulate and zombiefy the american people to vote repugs.

my husband has always been repug. parents repugs, in midland texas, nra card carryin trust fund baby. socially he stands on the liberal side. he walked from nra in late '90's for some reason, i dont know. voted bush in 2000. bothered what bush was doing with oil, stem cell and other issues but what made him walk from the party forever was iraq. he felt election stolen in 2004 and will no longer vote for repugs, ..... evah.
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