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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:43 PM
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'Pentagon Says Strike Against Iran Possible'...this is the headline in our daily paper
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 02:04 PM by spanone
this is the headline we woke up to this morning in the Tennessean, nashville, tn...just now opened my paper

they're gonna fucking do it....


The nation's top military officer said yesterday that the Pentagon is planning for "potential military courses of action" as one of several options against Iran, criticizing what he called the Tehran government's "increasingly lethal and malign influence" in Iraq.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/25/AR2008042501480.html
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:47 PM
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1. i can't believe that they would try anything before the olympics...
it would piss our chinese masters off something awful.

btw- when they DO move on iran, shortly after the olympics, look for china to use the opportunity to re-claim taiwan, in exchange for not coming to the aid of iran.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:43 AM
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19. The way things are going with the Torch of Shame, I think our Chinese masters would prefer a
distraction right about the time of the Oympics.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:48 PM
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2. I think the last general they fired --- Fallon/? --- was the key to holding them back ---
This is the "nuck 'em" Le May and Dr. Strangelove thinking taking hold now . . .

All's clear for Cheney now ---

And, let's remember that Hillary signed on to let Bush free to act re Iran ---




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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:56 PM
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3. Yup, Hillary culpable for another war.
Pathetic.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:06 PM
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5. What the hell does that mean?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:08 PM
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6. If Bush goes to war he's going to use Kyl/Lieberman which she voted for.
Mark my words.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:33 PM
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9. Kyl/Lieberman will not justify going to war against Iran.
And I know she voted for it. So did Kerry and the rest of 'em.

I don't like Hillary. I don't like Barrie. (He keeps voting to fund this war so he's just as bad as she is in regard to Iraq.) But neither one of them have a fucking thing to do with a war with Iran.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:41 PM
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10. Jim Webb thinks it does...
BREAKING: Lieberman-Kyl’s Iran amendment passes.»

By a vote of 76-22, the Senate passed the Lieberman-Kyl amendment, which threatens to “combat, contain and ” Iran via “military instruments.” Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) called the amendment “Cheney’s fondest pipe dream” and said it could “read as a backdoor method of gaining Congressional validation for military action.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/26/breaking-lieberman-kyls-iran-amendment-passes/
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 06:32 PM
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13. BFD. Read the amendment. And bush** didn't abide by what the amendment
said anyway.

Learn to think for yourself. Read. Apply critical thinking. Reason through the information. Don't rely on what someone else says. EDUCATE YOURSELF!

Kyl/Liebermann has NOTHING to do with Iran and it cannot be used as justification, and have it be true, of an attack on another country.

Sheesh.

And don't make me defend that woman again.
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:59 PM
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4. Article says no proof of high level involvement, yet
They have no problem attacking yet another sovereign country?

Since Pentagon has been hopping like mad trying to link Iran to NK, I guess they're possibly on the radar as well. And if there is indeed cooperation between Iran and NK, do we expect them to just stand by and do nothing?

Do we really think Syria will do nothing? They are already handling a lot of the Iraqi refugees that we conveniently ignore. It's not inconceivable they start turning them away in greater numbers, and those who are forced to return to Iraq will be added to the civilian casualty list.

Do we really think Turkey will do nothing? They've been raring to go not just after the PKK, but after the greater movement of Kurds seeking autonomy within Iraq. How will we be able to stop additional Turkish "incursions" into Iraq?

Are we the citizens gonna let them get away with a lack of imagination again by scaring us into another set of wars?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:34 AM
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18. as citizens, we think our gov't. explores all these possibilities, iraq proves they are irrational
they don't think about shit
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:21 PM
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7. Too Bad Pelosi Opposed Impeachment
... if she hadn't, Bush wouldn't dare do this shit.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:22 PM
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8. More distraction. This is a really massive propaganda effort.
Signaling the degree of failure and their PANIC to keep failure out of the News during the election cycle.

If the US military attacks Iran, will they come home?
Will they suffer a complete defeat?
Will aircraft carriers sink?
Will the Green Zone be obliterated?

The USA will not attack Iran because that will be their last stand, just like Custer, and they know it!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:04 PM
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12. i truly hope you are right
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2hip Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:47 AM
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22. You make a valid point but...
when has logic and rational thinking been part of the Bush* agenda?



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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:40 AM
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24. That would be the same as the BIG OIL agenda ??
Given the price of gasoline, they seem to be rational, logical,
successful, and immensely MORE profitable.

Let's not underestimate the JUNTA!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:57 PM
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11. Make no doubt about it They are going to do it
Are you ready for WWIII and Civil War?
Cause its coming

Obviously the NWO is on a accelerated agenda right now for control of the World

War with Iran is essential to destroy America once and for all

Look at the evidence
News Media war mongering everyday
War in Iraq is failing
Afghanistan is failing
Pakistan is failing
They screwed up in Russia and venuzuela

the Republicans are failing
after the election the Republicans may not have a party
Bush never did destroy Social Security

they are running out of cheap labor and troops are the lowest ever

In all fronts they are failing
and yet they would say they are in control

but in reality they are failing miserably
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:07 PM
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14. K&R because they are!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 10:33 PM
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15. kick
Kick
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:37 AM
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16. The Pentagram is always preparing for military action.
Let's hope it's just more smoke.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:30 AM
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17. I hope you're right. However, I've noticed lately that just about
anytime * speaks, Iran is inserted into his words. He could be talking about the a variety of roses in the rose garden and Iran comes up. It scares me. I think he's trying to accustom us to his evil ways. Could that be propaganda?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:45 AM
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20. It could be that they've decided to just keep us all off balance.
They don't have the cash or the resources to attack Iran. (Although, the gang that can't shoot straight might not be deterred because of that.)

If we attack Iraq, the Republicans will go down in bigger flames. I don't think they're willing to risk that.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:50 PM
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26. But,but,but, but...don't forget what georgie wants georgie gets..at
least that's the way it's worked for almost eight years. I think he's purposely destroying the economy. What better way to the North American Union and the emergence of the Amero? We all know the dollar is worth zilch. Again, I hope you are right.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:55 AM
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21. Just more propaganda... just more * saber rattling!
Questions Linger on Scope of Iran’s Threat in Iraq

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/26/world/middleeast/26military.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

By MARK MAZZETTI, STEVEN LEE MYERS and THOM SHANKER
Published: April 26, 2008

WASHINGTON —

The United States has gathered its most detailed evidence so far of Iranian involvement in training and arming fighters in Iraq, officials say, but significant uncertainties remain about the extent of that involvement and the threat it poses to American and Iraqi forces.

Some intelligence and administration officials said Iran seemed to have carefully calibrated its involvement in Iraq over the last year, in contrast to what President Bush and other American officials have publicly portrayed as an intensified Iranian role.

It remains difficult to draw firm conclusions about the ebb and flow of Iranian arms into Iraq, and the Bush administration has not produced its most recent evidence.

For weeks, Mr. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and the top American officials in Iraq have portrayed Iran as a significant and growing threat to the American war effort in Iraq.


In particular, they have cited an intensified barrage of Iranian-made rockets hitting the Green Zone in Baghdad — including attacks during a visit by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice — that have killed Americans and Iraqis.

None of the officials interviewed disputed the notion that Iran sought to undermine American interests in Iraq, but in recent weeks the administration has sought to emphasize the threat by citing new evidence. The interrogations of four Iraqi Shiite militia commanders, for example, have provided new details about the extent of training conducted by the Quds Force of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, officials said.

snip--->

The administration’s focus on Iran has raised alarms among the war’s staunchest critics, who accuse the White House of overstating the threat and laying the groundwork for military action against Iran.

Senator Dianne Feinstein
, a Democrat from California who has called for opening talks with Iran, said that while she believed that there was evidence that Iran was aiding Shiite militias, she worried about the tenor of the administration’s latest warnings.

“This is not a new thing,”
she said of Iran’s involvement. “Why all of a sudden do the sabers start to rattle?”

more...
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:44 AM
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25. And, people keep falling for these TERROR LIES!
We are the ones being terrorized! By LIES!!
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:30 PM
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29. The constant saber-rattling also serves as a reminder to Sunni Arab oil producers
such as Saudi Arabia not to switch over to the Euro from our sinking petrodollar, which they are contemplating seriously. But... well, look what happened to Saddam's Iraq when he threatened to do that! Right??


Threats like these are stage props for the MIC's acting out its international protection racket.

And no, I don't think the US will nuke Iran. The time to do it with a conceivable pay-off for the neocons has come and gone.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:48 AM
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23. They better not fucking do it.
It will be a shitstorm of MASSIVE proportion.

:nuke: :nuke:
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:52 PM
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27. They'll start the war before the election
It will either help McCain or hamstring the Dem who wins.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:54 PM
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28. lol! Perhaps they should install a different puppet govt in Iraq, considering Iraq and Iran have
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 05:55 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
become kissing cousins???

The papers are going along with this insanity and are assisting in bringing it into the collective consciousness that war is inevitable. So are a couple of candidates. Wonderful.....

We are so fucked.
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