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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:45 PM Original message |
Standardized Testing actually REDUCES student motivation |
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femmocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is news? |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yes, but |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. Here's a link to a recent study |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Can you post some of the info from the link on this thread? |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Sorry...done on reply #2 |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. FairTest - great organization in the fight for testing reform |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Thanks, this needs to get out there |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. It would be nice to get a 5th recommend |
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. done. n/t |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. THANKS! |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Sheesh Elspeth |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 07:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Sorry. |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. Anyone with half a brain would know this.. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. No. Most good people don't know this. Parents believe that these tests improve their kids' |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #16 |
38. i am in pta and involved in two schools with boys. not a single parent, not a single teacher |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
13. Standardized testing for a standardized world |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Depends on which process. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
14. Well, there's a duh statement |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 03:25 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Not really. Parents and teachers and politicians are always sold on tests improving achievement |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 06:40 AM Response to Original message |
18. That's no surprise. nt |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
19. Surprise surprise! (but I'm glad it's now coming out in the open). |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
21. Some (possibly unfriendly) questions? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Constant or repeated testing: |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Whet is "SES"? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Socio-economic status (basically social class) |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. "socio-economic status:" |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Thanks |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. All good questions. |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. oi vey. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
39. my children start taking simulated tak tests in fall. they are studying to these tests |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
25. NCLB is designed to make public schools look bad |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Kennedy and Miller, and they are still pushing it. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. It means that Chomsky is right, that there is only one party |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Yes. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. And on that cheerful note... |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Actually, I think it's designed more to help |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 07:30 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. I wouldn't be surprised if it was designed to fail |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Oh yeah. "Flexible". |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Then why do parents and politicians buy into endless testing? |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. And why do teachers carry it out? |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Teachers can be reprimanded, fired, etc. Make no mistake: teachers are the peons in the system |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
33. a critical distinction |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
34. No Child Left With A Decent Education |
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Iwillnevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
40. Poor motivation and less effort, indeed |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Yes, and teachers' jobs |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
41. Duh. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
44. I hope the lawmakers hear about this. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
45. I disagree. It's not the test, it's the weeks of drilling to learn what's on the test! |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Remember that Ted Kennedy was also part of NCLB |
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