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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:20 PM
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Are there really that many conservative blacks?
No, I'm not so stupid or insensitive as to think people with some fundamental commonality or another are not all of one mind.

My reference is to what I have been hearing on MSNBC (specifically) all day.

It started this morning with this shithead: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5718034&mesg_id=5718034

Since then, there's been a chorus of black voices against Wright. All day long.

Where's the support for this guy?

And maybe more importantly, what strategy is being played out before us?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:22 PM
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1. I don't know, cause I don't watch cable news.
:shrug:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:11 PM
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4. Never?
Really?

Never?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:27 PM
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2. No, it's just that they're all on cable.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:32 PM
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3. If WE don't speak, nobody else will
We organized a backlash to that horrible debate. Until we do it for people like Wright, it will never stop.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:22 PM
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5. It's called "Identification with the oppressor."
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 05:24 PM by Karenina
You can also find many examples of people voting against their own interests in "middle Amurikkka."
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:41 PM
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6. It's a sign of equality
Just as you can find white people willing to go on national TV and say how the country walking off a cliff is good for America, you can find some black peopel just as willing.

Just as you can find white people willing to hurt their own interests as long as people not like them get screwed, you can find black people just as willing. (Gays work best here)

Just as wealthy whites often figure out that they can get even more money by screwing those with less money (regardless of color), so too do wealthy blacks who find it's not so much about Black/White as it is Have and Have Not.

It's a sign of how equal the human "groups" really are. Black, White, Asian, Male, Female, Gat, Straight, Whatever.. all groups are equally likely to produce total assholes. Sadly being in an oppressed group in no way counters this. Suffering does not guarantee wisdom or empathy. One can be the victim of oppression and prejudice and be an oppressor and prejudiced one's self. In fact, it seems to make it even more likely, as if this kind of behavior was a virus that spread from Victimizer to Victim. Many may build up a resistance, learn to become more empathic or not do to others what was done to them. But some clearly do not learn this and it only takes a few assholes to out do the influence of a thousand saints.

When one adds the narrow little filter that the media tries to spin, this becomes even more pronounced in part because this is a great way to attack someone where race is a factor without being called a racist.

It's like when one is on trial for rape, one gets a female lawyer. Or if for a hate crime, a Jewish or Black lawyer. It's why Clarence Thomas, a clearly under qualified candidate for SCOTUS was nominated and affirmed.

If one wants to counter Wright's argument that there is a lot of racism in this country without discussing the merits of his argument, then you get a lot of black people attacking Wright. These black speakers may or may not reflect what the majority of black Americans are thinking. But it doesn't matter. Because it's on TV so it must be true.

And it works.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:46 PM
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7. Sheesh. Of course not. We only see what white folks decide we see....
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 05:48 PM by BlooInBloo
... And they want us to see "conservative" black folks (about the nicest word possible for the fuckwit jackasses). All 3 of them.


EDIT: Outside of the racial context, it's somewhat similar to global warming deniers being massively over-represented in the media.
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:21 PM
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8. I work for a school started by a community group made up of about 60 black repubs.
The boss talks to Bush on the phone once a month and meets with him twice a year. I went to one of their fundraisers.. you've never seen so many black dudes with flag pins.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:27 PM
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9. to use a term I heard on a british show earlier
conservative with a small c.

Which is to say religously and in other ways conservative but not exactly the same as Conservative in economic and political thought.

I still trust in the wise words of J.C. Watts Sr. who said, to the chagrin of his asswipe RW son, that a black man voting for a republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

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