Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Attention renters: You are in danger of getting shafted again at the Capitol

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:35 PM
Original message
Attention renters: You are in danger of getting shafted again at the Capitol
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 01:39 PM by bobbolink
This is an article about Colorado legislature, and I hope you will read the entire article, as she details so much more, and lays the blame right where it belongs. She ends with a jab at the Democratic Convention in Denver.

This should help some of you understand why some of us aren't looking for Dems to champion our cause anymore. :(

http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_9090028

(snip)
We have a law mandating basic living standards for our pets. But minimum standards for human beings may be too much to ask state government, even one run by folks who call themselves Democrats.

(snip)

"The landlords reneged on their promises," says Democratic Rep. Mike Merrifield, the sponsor. Merrifield has continued watering down his bill to save it even from fellow Dems who own rental properties.

He removed language allowing tenants with unresponsive landlords to deduct the cost of repairs from rent checks. He agreed to require tenants to seek injunctive relief from district court, rather than small-claims court — a move likely to dissuade people who can't afford lawyers. And he eased the definition of "unhabitable."

Still, business types act like the sky is falling. Owners would have to raise rents, explain naysayers who speak as though renters would rise up in rabid revolt if given even the slightest of rights.







Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:52 PM
Response to Original message
1. I sent Susan a note of thanks for her article
And will write to the governor chastising him for his lack of leadership on the issue.

K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Thanks, eleny. this is SHAMEFUL! Colorado at the bottom with Arkansas!
Letting renters live in squalor because they won't confront the slumlords!

Yes, she did a great article, and Tina Griego deserves thanks, too, for two great articles on the deaths of homeless men.

Right now I know of two women who are renting apartments in the same complex, owned by a LAWYER, who won't do ANY repairs. One apartment had a leaking roof, and he wouldn't do anything about it until the whole roof collapsed. Luckily, it didn't kill the tenant.

The apartment I was in had a leaking smoke stack outside my living room window, which made me so ill I got pneumonia. Again, nothing that I could do about it. Except give up and live in my car.

SHAMEFUL! The DEMS should hang their collective heads in shame!!!!

:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #2
10. When I had rental problems like you've described
I called the Dept. of Health, and once they contacted the landlord, the repairs were made in less than 48 hours. So if you have another problem like a leaking roof or smoking chimney, calling the health deparment or the fire department (in the case of the chimney) might be viable options to put pressure on an unresponsive landlord.

BTW, I'm not defending the landlords or the lack of renters' rights in any way. In fact, when I moved to Colorado I got an apartment where the landlord told me he would enter my apartment any time he pleased without warning (which he told me after I signed the lease, of course). I was shocked to find nothing in Colorado law expressly prohibiting he from doing just that. As a single woman, it totally creeped me out. Luckily I was able to talk to his wife who I think read him the riot act about it. Never had a problem with him again. But after moving here from Massachusetts, where renters have all kinds of rights, it sure was a shock to come face-to-face with the rental realities elsewhere in the country.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Excuse me. Where do you live now?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. In the Denver area.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #17
19. Then it would be very good for you to know the reality of the tenant situation.
I believe the article shows you just how bad it truly is.

So, instead of being parental with me, and assuming I don't know anything, and don't do anything, you might want to consider a little more humility and understanding that things are worse than you know.

I have become very exhausted from the parental attitude of so many. It really tires a person to always be put in the situation of needing to explain and defend oneself, rather than getting compassion and understanding.

I hope you will consider that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. Um, I think you read my post wrong.
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 04:19 PM by intheflow
I didn't intend to be "parental" with you. I did not ask you to explain or defend yourself in any way. I merely reported on how I had handled a similar problem. It was offered as a friendly suggestion, offered as much to anyone reading the post as to you.

I also stated I understood how little protection Colorado residents have in rental disputes based on my own experience renting in Denver. I don't know how you could have read that as my not not being compassionate or understanding to you or the article. :shrug: I offered the anecdote in solidarity with you.

That you interpreted my reply as an attack of some sort suggests you (like all people, including myself) can be blinded by your own assumptions and worldview. If you thought my response was short on humility and compassion, please consider how little of those traits your response afforded me as well.

*Edited for clarity and because my typing sucks.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. You made the assumption I didn't know about the heatlh department.
You might check on things like that before you start telling people what to do.

Now, the explanation you seem to be needing -- the HEALTH DEPARTMENT ORDERED THIS BUILDING TO CORRECT THE LEAKS IN THE SMOKESTACK OVER A YEAR BEFORE I MOVED IN.

OK?

So, if you had a landlord who was kind enough to voluntarily fix the problem, then thank your lucky stars.

The rest of us haven't been so lucky.

And, as the OP states, there is no recourse.

So, yes, a bit of compassion would be in order.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #10
18. When my mom first moved to Phoenix she rented before she bought
Her landlord would get on the floor and SNIFF the rug. The guy was a total freak.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:09 PM
Response to Original message
3. There's some more of that middle of the road shit that I just detest!
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 02:09 PM by lonestarnot
Fuck you dem screwing deceivers!
Thanks for posting Bobbolink!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
16. "Fuck you dem screwing deceivers!" that's exactly the way I'm feeling now.
The party has deserted it's traditional base.

Fuck it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:09 PM
Original message
K&R It is beyond disgusting
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 02:10 PM by caseycoon
I don't know whether to yell & scream or throw up!

:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:09 PM
Response to Original message
4. Here in Indiana, we all get to pay higher sales tax
to subsidize property taxes on homeowners. Thanks, Mitch, you fucking pile of shit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:42 PM
Response to Original message
5. Another kick n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:57 PM
Response to Original message
6. This is disgraceful!

Raw sewage leaking into the apartment?

Who's responsible if the tenants get sick
from the filth and contamination?!?

This is beyond disgusting- it's beyond
comprehension!

Thanks for posting this, Bobbie!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. "Who's responsible if the tenants get sick?" It sure aint' the Dems, is it?
"The party of the poor"

:puke:

Oh, and the Dems are voting for Mass-style health care, too.

So, when the tenants get sick, let 'em eat cake.

Fine party.

:puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:15 PM
Response to Original message
7. Disgusting
But not a surprise in DLC-laden Colorado.

The D means nothing....it truly does. You have to look past the D at the actual politican's record to see if they are worthy of the D. About half are clearly not.

I weep for the people that will suffer because of this, and already suffer. I have gone through my own woes because I lived in low-rent housing....you are truly warehoused like an animal if you live in a cheap apartment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. "But not a surprise in DLC-laden Colorado." You got it!!!
"The D means nothing...."

Absolutely!

Yet, DUers will castigate those of us who say, What the hell? What does it matter? Why even vote for a Dem, let alone work for a campaign??

THIS is what it gets us!

Yet, we're supposed to be so happy to be a "blue" state now.

:puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:11 PM
Response to Original message
11. I can remember traveling to Colorado a lot as a kid
and I was always in awe at the better stuff my aunt and uncle had, and the better roads, schools and conditions there. Man, how times have changed. Colorado is proof positive of the glorious effects of religo-sizing every aspect of government. The fundies found a vulnerable spot and set up anchor. Thanks Focus on the Family!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Yes, things have changed, just as in the rest of the nation. Please, DON'T blame everything on the
RW fundies.

Apparently what some of you are missing in this article is that the Legislature is DEM... the governor is DEM. This is a BLUE state in that regard, and there is NO excuse for DEMS not to do what's right for renters, poor folk, health, etc.

Yet, they are not even searching for their collective spines.

I can tell you, there are MANY angry progressives and liberals here, who worked hard to put these clowns in office, who gave a lot of money, who spent countless hours in Dem meetings, canvassing neighborhoods, etc.

And look at the sad results.

So, NO.... you are wrong.... this is NOT the fault of the RW... this is squarely on the shoulders of the Dems!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:14 PM
Response to Original message
14. similar stuff happening here
landlords or their friends making the rules
it sucks
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. Both parties are in the pockets of the affluent, and the rich.
The result is the same, whether it's Dem or Rep.

Yes, it sux.

Whadda country...

:cry:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:16 PM
Response to Original message
22. This is truly horrible!
We poor folk here in Oklahoma have been reduced to a state of utter powerlessness and worse poverty than any time since the Dust Bowl days. I've never seen the level of despair among the poor as extreme as it has become these days.

It's getting so hard as economic stresses on poor folk continue to worsen and more people than ever find they are slipping from "muddle class" into the ranks of the poor. I see the misery suffered by increasing numbers of people, how helpless we feel to improve our lot, and it's maddening!

Property owners seem to be among the worst of the wealthy in how they respond to what should be their responsibilities. I call them slumlords because that's what they are -- those who own rundown rental properties.

I worked for a time as an assistant manager at one property, so I've seen the scale of the problem up close. My then-hubby was the manager and full-time, sole maintenance person for a dilapidated apartment complex owned by a rich Jamaican who wanted the place run just like his offshore properties. He got away with it, and the suffering and abuse all of us endured was hard to believe but true. Conditions like those described in this article ... just appalling!

I had to go on Disability at age 50 (eight years ago), and I finally ended up living on the outskirts of Tulsa in an RV park because it was the cheapest place in town and the only one I could afford. I had just bought a 1973 model motorhome with a $2000 "inheritance" from my dad, knowing I might have to live in it.

What appalls me even more than my own personal situation here is that this place has rental units -- older model travel trailers that are in abominable condition -- that only the desperate poor would live in. They, and we who own our units that are old and ugly, live on only one street in the park which I call "Poor Man's Alley." I even refer to it that way to the staff but they are unshamable.

We live in completely different conditions from those who have the huge, luxurious motorhomes and snazzy modern trailers with multiple "slides" (which make them much more spacious), who populate the rest of the park.

Yet the poor who can no longer afford ever-rising rent payments at even the worst apartments in town are glad to get into a rental unit here because their rent price covers electricity and propane, trash, water, and sewer, plus extended basic cable teevee. Sounds good, and it would be if the units were in decent condition.

In the five years since I parked my old motorhome here, the level of responsiveness to the maintenance and repair needs at the rentals has deteriorated markedly. The owner seems to have decided that the old units are not worth fixing anymore or something, I don't know. My neighbors have to live with roaches and spiders (one was bitten by a brown recluse in her bed and nearly died because she couldn't afford to see a doctor). Air conditioners are ancient and won't cool these tin cans sitting in the Oklahoma sun, water heaters catch fire, and ovens leak propane into the house. Once or twice a year a unit burns or literally falls apart and they haul it away.

The slumlord owner has begun replacing these with FEMA trailers he gets somehow, which, while somewhat newer, are the smallest, cheapest and flimsiest built, I think. People just have to live with whatever conditions develop in these awful, cramped dwellings, including formaldehyde poisoning. It makes me sick at heart to see how we all live out here. I've seen whole families living in trailers less than 30 feet long!

I can't afford to pay for repairs to my motorhome and currently live without running water (I fill up containers with the garden hose), no propane (leak in oven), and an inadequate electrical system, so I can't even run two space heaters at once in cold weather, or can't use the microwave without turning off the AC unit. The slumlord won't pay for additional power lines on this street, although the rest of the park has 220 and adequate power for their juice-hogs.

But I live with my unit's condition because I own it -- for the renters, their maintenance should be taken care of by the slumlord! He delays indefinitely when tenants ask for repairs or for extermination of vermin and bugs, and there's absolutely nothing they can do about it. If people complain, the owner writes them up for nitpicky offenses, threatening them with eviction, so they shut up. The staff here treats us on this street like lepers, untouchables ... like we're beneath contempt and unworthy of their attention or concern. Nothing we can do about it. The harrassment of the poor here is routine and definitely "keeps us in our place."

Renters still struggle to make their rent payments or else they're on the street, and you know how rough THAT is!

And all the while, we see these luxurious modern units passing through -- the ones who use the REST of the park -- looking like palaces on wheels to us. They set up in more spacious lots with new privacy fences, in gleaming rows on winding streets with lots of trees, just a block away from us. (Poor Man's Alley is jam up against a major freeway so we get the noise and dust!) You can bet the slumlord and his staff jump through hoops to keep the wealthy people happy, though!

The juxtaposition of these two distinct classes of people in one RV park and the vastly different treatment we receive brings home the point so hard we poor folk cannot ignore it: We don't matter, others do, and there's no recourse for us when conditions are so bad they're unsafe and unsanitary.

What strikes me about this situation is how much it reminds me of what life was like ... in PRISON!

I spent a few months there 17 years ago when my then-hubby was busted for selling a little pot and they took me along with him. In the penitentiary, you have no rights, no privacy, and no recourse if the conditions you live in are deplorable, inhumane and abusive, which they routinely are. Inmates learn this quickly and give up on trying to improve their lot through any sanctioned means. They end up preying on each other in order to get something slightly better for themselves, and their keepers allow this -- it's the accepted culture of prison life. If you're the prey rather than the predator, you're SOL, as we used to say (shit out of luck).

It's just scary to note how the similarity of prison life to everyday "free" life for the poor is increasing! In prison, humans "break" under such constant, oppressive abuse in situations which render them helpless. I'm seeing the same thing now among the poor who are supposedly NOT in prison, yet their despair and hopelessness are near the level of inmates.

As you said, Bobbie -- "whadda country!"

COMMA!




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. OMG!!!! Words fail.... can you imagine me speechless????
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

You are an artist, and the picture you have painted is.... bleak, but so clear. (Yet, there are still DUers who say, "All you have to do is call.......)

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{vickitulsa}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

:pals: :pals: :loveya: :pals: :pals:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. Oh vickitulsa
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 06:24 PM by caseycoon
This is far worse than horrible. It sounds more like misery & torture.
I am so sorry you are having to live in that stinking place. I don't have words to describe that owner & his crappy staff.
MANY COMMAS!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. Thank you, caseycoon, and Bobbie, too.
You know, I tell these personal stories not because I seek sympathy or even help, not from fellow DUers or really anyone who need not feel guilty or responsible. (My brother could help me a lot, but he is oblivious to what he doesn't want to see.)

I tell my stories because I want those who (like my bro) simply don't seem to have a clue what day-to-day life is like for so many, to wake up and open their eyes to the plight of millions in this rich nation. It's so very sad that a great many people won't ever listen or understand what it's like -- until they fall into such circumstances themselves! And they go on whistling in the dark, many living from paycheck to paycheck, never thinking it could happen to THEM.

Folks who have never had to depend on the System in this country that is supposed to provide a "safety net" and support and protect the helpless, the weakened, and the retired, really do NOT understand just how inadequate the System is and how it is set up to avoid helping the poor -- not to rescue and assist them. "Services" are hard to get and hard to keep, and woefully insufficient once you get them, yet the public in general seems to believe that the System will be there for them should they ever need it.

The real kicker about the slumlord of this RV park is that it is his "crown jewel" in a string of similar properties he owns in several states. There is one other he owns in Tulsa, and it's in a very bad part of town and has no laundromat or showers (this one does), and folks there are vulnerable to constant thefts and have even more service/repair problems than we here do. Like the poor in general, they are "out of sight, out of mind."

This slumlord is always trying to get the poor people here to move over to THAT park, offering lower rates and even to move our units for us (if we own ours). I believe the reason for that is he wants to clear out ALL the poor people from THIS park so the upper class clients here won't have to see us. The office is at the front of the park and the head of this street, so if anyone coming in turns down this road by mistake or even just LOOKS down this way, they have to view the shabby conditions on Poor Man's Alley.

The staff has tried to get me to move to that park repeatedly, even though I keep my place tidy and even grow flowers in abundance in my little yard to pretty up the place. This spring I have been painting my old crate and it looks SO much better, so I'm hoping they will lay off me for awhile. I have seen that other park this slumlord owns, and I lived two blocks from there once years ago and know the neighborhood. It is NOT SAFE.

Yet, instead of doing proper repairs on the units and lots here that need it, this wealthy owner chooses to put his money into expensive upgrades on this property in places where mainly the rich clientele see or use them! He rakes in money by the ton from his many properties, yet "can't afford" to do the upkeep on a few little units? It just doesn't compute, and he knows it.

For instance, he recently remodeled the hot showers in the clubhouse in his preferred Southwest decor, paying as much as $80 each for single decorative tiles with cacti and yucca plants on them! Yet the staff here frequently tries to discourage us poor folk from even USING the hot showers! They don't want dirty, working poor folks messing them up, I guess, and again, prefer that the other clients not have to SEE US. Yet we're the very ones who NEED to use these showers, of course!

It's just so aggravating and frustrating to know he's paying that kind of money for non-utilitarian add-ons when he refuses to provide decent dwellings for his rentals. Reminds me of the way this administration can spend trillions on its wars, yet keeps saying there isn't enough money to keep providing a pittance, in comparison, in assistance to the poor through government programs!

There's just something so very wrong in the balance of things in this country, and I wish more people could SEE THAT. I guess I figure that if I tell stories from my own experiences, maybe a few eyes will be opened.

Those USians who continue to believe that assistance programs to aid the poor are adequate may be in for a very rude shock someday, and I hope for all our sakes that this downward slide of so many into economic hardship and suffering does not go on much longer ... but I am not expecting that miracle to happen.

Once you slide into poverty, you become powerless and helpless. And once you get to that level, it is nearly impossible to regain a life that previously seemed "normal." In poverty, "normal" is something else entirely!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. Thank you!
I am of the muddle class, a high school teacher, but many of my students are really poor; they are referred to as the "dirty kids" and I see the snubbery, and downright avoidance and blindness. One of my goals is to help get all the kids, well-off, struggling, and poor to work together, I tolerate no snobbery, meanness or cruelty. Big success last year when one of my most poor kids, L.,told me she was going to get a new pair of shoes, all excited; naive me asked her "dress, school, or play shoes?" She looked confused or consternated and said, "oh just new shoes, my sneakers are falling apart", I said "why don't you wear another pair til you get the new ones." She said "thats my only pair of shoes", I blanched. Next day I raved over her new polka dot sneakers, enough colors to go with anything, but she mostly wore the same thing.

Next week she was out one day and I talked to the other girls in the class who all loved her. I told them I'd shoot them if they told her I'd said anything but I asked them to look for things in their stuff for her. I told L. my niece had given me a lot of hand offs (she had given me a couple things), and would she like to look through them? maybe her little sisters could too. She said sure, and smiled. One of my wealthiest students came in with a huge trash bag of stuff, really nice clothes, a great down jacket, some short boots, jeans, sweaters, and cute shirts,(one had a price tag on it still). I dropped it off at her home with a few other things from the other girls. Next week she came in in one of the new outfits and the girls were thrilled, one said "she looks like us", the one who'd given the most said "she always has been like us, just some people don't look, or can't see until its pointed out".

I hope these girls would now be able to SEE what you are trying to point out with your stories, sometimes it only takes having sympathy for one, to gain sympathy for all. Good luck Vicki, thanks for sharing from your heart...



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:44 PM
Response to Original message
27. kick. (n/t)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 12:07 AM
Response to Original message
28. I'll never forget reading about the slumlord in Escondido, CA
who was actually sentenced to live IN his substandard apartment complex, with a tracking leg "bracelet" to make sure he stayed there until he cleaned them up and got them up to legal standards. That's a sentence with some teeth in it - and a judge with (apparently) either no fear of reprisals or no lack of spine.

The responsibility for the situation in Colorado lies entirely with the local authorities and the state legislators. I do wonder how the state could have a Democrat-controlled government with so little regard for its traditional base, which definitely should include renters. But then, it's not like we have another party to defect to, is it? And they know that. :(

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 05:11 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC