Texas officials looking at possible abuse among FLDS boys

[cornermouse]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080430/ap_on_re_us/polygamist_retreat

Sexual abuse of young boys, almost 60% of the underage girls are either pregnant or have already had a child, and 41 of them had broken bones. Now can we throw the book at the adults from the FLDS compound?

[BOSSHOG]

1. If the adults aren't gay we have no business in their pants or lives

A recent ltte in the Gulfport paper opined how horrible it was that the federal government was interfering in these people's lives.

[cornermouse]

2. They're harming children.

They belong in jail. Correction. They belong in prison for a very, very, very long time.

[BOSSHOG]

3. I could not possibly agree with you more

But the conservative view point is quite different. You know. Its there business. Leave them alone.

[Hydra]

4. You know, that point of theirs is very telling

I bet they'd be doing it too, if they thought they could get away with it.

[uppityperson]

5. sarcasm or quoting rw fundies?

[BOSSHOG]

8. The attititude

of many "christians" in my neck of the woods is that the folks down in Texas are not harming anyone. They are hard working fine upstanding citizens and the gubmint should mind its own damned business. The letter writer I referred to is a classic "christian values" type who, in my humble opinion, gets preferential treatment on the papers op-ed page. His letter in a nutshell, which no doubt reflects a large segment of the south Mississippi populace, let us not concern ourselves with the folks in Texas, we should be concerned with the lying and slandering and hedonistic liberal base of the democratic party.

[uppityperson]

9. New Mexico police remove 3 children from church compound

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jsH7mJX6DLL_3T9EQ6po9ojGv4-gD90CBC400
State police have removed three children from an apocalyptic church whose leader claims to be the Messiah and acknowledges having sex with some of his followers.

The two girls and one boy — all under the age of 18 — were taken from the northeastern New Mexico compound following an April 22 investigation, Romaine Serna, spokeswoman for the state Children, Youth and Families Department spokeswoman, said Wednesday.

She said a fourth child, a girl, agreed to be interviewed by the department. Serna said that girl had been at the compound but now lives elsewhere with her parents.

The three children were taken into state custody because of allegations of inappropriate contact between minors and the adult leader of The Lord Our Righteousness Church, Serna said.
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Serna said two of the children removed from the ranch were placed in foster homes, and one accepted voluntary placement, which usually means with a friend or relative. Serna said her agency received information on April 21 that warranted the removal of the children. She declined to reveal the information or its source.

[BOSSHOG]

10. Would it be fair to believe

that these "religious organizations" have been operating under a tax exempt status? Would it be fair to jerk that status retroactively?

[uppityperson]

11. I'd be fine with that.

[LeftyMom]

20. They admitted to the sexual abuse on TV.

"Inside a Cult" or something like that, currently airing on the National Geographic channel.

The leader (the one who's supposed to be the messiah) kept preaching about being being naked before god, and whaddayaknow, next thing he's got teenage girls exposing themselves to him and lying next to him in the nude.

[LanternWaste]

15. The attitude of many Christians in TX

The attitude of many Christians in TX is that the FLDS will have a seriously long time to burn in hell.

Just opinions I've been hearing at two churches in TX about the matter since we're trading anecdotal evidence and all...

[yardwork]

12. LOL!

Good one, there, BOSSHOG!

Watch how many people scratch their heads over your posts in this thread.

[BOSSHOG]

13. I'm such a pathetic post writer

No wonder so many people have me on ignore.

[yardwork]

14. Impossible! Anyone who has you on ignore is an ignoramus.

[BOSSHOG]

16. Oh I believe I've ruffled

some Obama supporter feathers. I'm not for or against Obama or Clinton, just waiting for the nominee to be decided to pledge my undying support. But I have shared my humble opinion on the behavior of some Obama supporters whom I found to be somewhat irrational to say the least. I found it interesting that many shared with me that they had me on ignore. I'm just a dumb ole Arkansas Boy but If someone had me on "ignore" why would they communicate with me? For the record, I have never put anyone on ignore. I don't understand the point at all. Get on a message/chit chat board to ignore people? I guess I'm just way too dumb for these folks.

[yardwork]

17. Those may be some of the same Obama supporters who have me on ignore.

I came around to supporting Obama, but along the way I evidently ruffled some feathers. Apparently I continue to ruffle feathers. Too bad. I agree with you about ignore. What's the point of visiting a bulletin board just to tell people you have them on ignore? LOL! Reminds me of junior high...

[Donnachaidh]

6. that doesn't surprise me at all -- after all, the elders have intentions of booting

The young men, so they can keep marrying the young women. Why NOT let your *freak flag fly* on the young boys? It's called RAPE and it's not for sexual satisfaction -- it's POWER. What better way to implant an image of yourself as someone so POWERFUL you can do anything to anyone - period. Sex has nothing to do with it - it's aggression and power.

Personally, I'd love to see this cult broken up, the men jailed, the children of both sexes, and the multiple wives given longterm psychiatric help. And then burn the place to the ground, and salt the earth for 30 miles around it, so NOTHING can ever grow there again. :rant:

[Hydra]

7. Of course they were abused

Not as bad as the girls, but it wouldn't surprise me to find pederasty was a close second hobby to raping girls.

[davidthegnome]

23. I wouldn't be so sure

It is entirely likely that the boys were treated just as badly, if not in some cases worse. Thrown out of the compound to live... where, exactly? What was done to them before this? By their own parents? Were they going to report the crimes to an organization they had been taught was evil? A few of them maybe. Not many. Not many at all.

After doing a little research regarding Warren Jeffs and his cult, the implications of this evidence are pretty frightening. I think that, over time, we're going to find firm evidence that the boys were abused just as often and just as terribly as the girls.

That said, I don't think the gender of the abused - or the degree of the abuse needs to be made into an issue. It's all terrible. At this point, I'm hoping the ringleaders, and those guilty of these crimes, are all punished to the full extent of the law.

[kestrel91316]

18. Didn't one of the boys claim he was sexually abused by

Warren Jeffs himself? I mean one of the Lost Boys in the UT-AZ area? I think he testified in Jeffs' trial....

[rocktivity]

19. Some sects are so inhumane they kick out their young men

so the older men don't have to compete with them for the young women. Abusing them instead is so much more civilized...

:eyes:
rocknation

[Beaverhausen]

21. kick

[BreweryYardRat]

22. Wouldn't surprise me.

These disgusting power-crazed old men ought to all get the chair.