God CURSES, Dooms AMERICA Says McCain Backer Pastor Hagee

[kpete]

God CURSES, Dooms AMERICA Says McCain Backer Pastor Hagee
by Troutfishing
Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 01:58:07 PM PDT

McCain Endorser Pastor John Hagee: God Curse and Doom America

By Bruce E. Wilson
April 30, 2008

"As a nation, America is under the curse of God, even now." That ominous slam at America came from Pastor John Hagee, whose endorsement Republican presidential candidate John McCain sought, secured, and recently affirmed to ABC News that he is "glad to have." Hagee claims God's "curse" and "doom" is upon America because of two key issues: reproductive freedom and broad support for the teaching of the theory of evolution...

Although Senator McCain recently told George Stephanopoulos in an interview that his seeking of Hagee's endorsement was "probably" a mistake, he then doubled back to affirm his approval of Hagee's endorsement, stating, "I'm glad to have it."...

If McCain did not know of Hagee's belief that God is against America, he should have: Hagee's pronouncement of God's "curse" and "doom" on our nation was not a passing comment. It was a major theme of Hagee's book, Day of Deception (1997). In fact, Hagee devotes a whole chapter to it. Here's the curse and doom quote in context:

In "America Under a Curse," a seventeen page chapter in Day of Deception, John Hagee wrote:
"As a nation, America is under the curse of God, even now. Look at the scriptures and see for yourself. The stand we have taken on abortion, the stand we have taken against God in our classrooms, just may have sealed or doom."

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http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/4/30/142126/284

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. hold it, what about Wright? Will they make this an example

of WHITE radicalism... don't expect this to be anywhere over any paper fold

[Tangerine LaBamba]

3. He said "doom,"

not "damn."

Can't you see the difference?

heh heh heh

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Ah I get it... and he is also white

:-)

[Tangerine LaBamba]

21. White?

Honey, he's so white, he left white behind.

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. Yep, there is that

why all this Wright controversy is made up

It is the uppity... (yes insert word here, as Malloy puts it) that has them boys all riled up

But, but racism does not exist in this country... no siree :sarcasm:

[coriolis]

2. If somebody shoots all those fucking idiot preachers

I won't shed a tear.
:grr:

[nichomachus]

6. Rev. Wright has done a lot of good for people

Hagee only robs them. Therein lies the difference.

According to income tax statements that GETV filed with the Internal Revenue Service, the nonprofit organization drew $18.3 million in revenue in 2001, the most recent year the organization submitted a return to the IRS. That year, Hagee's total compensation package amounted to more than $1.25 million.

Like most nonprofit organizations, GETV is obligated to disclose its finances by making IRS income tax statements, called 990 forms, available to the public. In return for complying, it isn't required to pay income taxes on revenue, business and operation taxes and property taxes. It also receives a discount on bulk mailing.

And it is also able to sell products tax-free and at a 50 percent profit because selling religious books, tapes and albums fits within GETV's broadly stated mission, which is to "spread the gospel of Jesus Christ."

According to the 990 forms for GETV, the organization in 2001 netted $12.3 million from donations, $4.8 million in profit from the sales of books and tapes, and an additional $1.1 million from various other sources, including rental income.

As the nonprofit organization's president, Hagee drew $540,000 in compensation, as well as an additional $302,005 in compensation for his position as president of Cornerstone Church, according to GETV's tax statements.

He also received $411,561 in benefits from GETV, including contributions to a retirement package for highly paid executives the IRS calls a "rabbi trust," so named because the first beneficiary of such an irrevocable trust was a rabbi.

The John Hagee Rabbi Trust includes a $2.1 million 7,969-acre ranch outside Brackettville, with five lodges, including a "main lodge" and a gun locker. It also includes a manager's house, a smokehouse, a skeet range and three barns.

Taken together, his payment package, $842,005 in compensation and $414,485 in benefits, was one of the highest, if not the highest, pay package for a nonprofit director in the San Antonio area in 2001.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/tv_preachers/tv_preachers7.html

[coriolis]

11. They are ALL flim-flam assholes selling a nonexistent product

for megabucks. Fuck 'em all.

[jeff30997]

17. I agree about the "selling a nonexistent product" part but...

They are not all assholes like this guy in the OP or the other con artists that don't even

believe their own crap and steal money from gullible peoples.I frankly don't like organized

religions but some of those peoples like priests,nuns,pastors and so on are really in it

to do good.Think about Gandhi,Martin Luther King or Mother Teresa for example.

[Ilsa]

29. I'm not ashamed to admit I'd probably say, "Good. We're better off now." nt

[spoony]

37. Classy. Sure you're on the right site?

Actually, you probably are.

[Rex_Goodheart]

4. The difference is past vs. future tense, and intent

Hagee says God has already cursed America; Wright beseeches God to damn America.

[The Stranger]

9. Are you being serious? The difference is in the verb tense?

You have to be kidding me.

[Richard Steele]

23. Trust me- he's serious.

CONSISTENTLY serious, if ya know what I mean.

[BeHereNow]

7. Well isn't that just TOO perfect! Talk about timing and all-

The country is hurling into the abyss and now we can
all know it is NOT because of the thugs and thieves-
who are planned and executed this
country's demise as they prepare to flee
to Paraguay and Dubai with the money they
fleeced from a trusting but ignorant public-
it is now being framed as GAWD's punishment...
Uh-huh.

BHN

[The Stranger]

8. Amazing that they ignore something this dangerous and insidious.

[Greyskye]

10. Oh Hillary supporters!

Why doesn't this outrage you? Too tired after beating the 'Wright' horse? :shrug:

[Kitty Herder]

12. But the MSM will never create a circus out of Hagee's

unpatriotic statements.

Why is that, I wonder?

[Disturbed]

13. The US Corp Media supports the RWing.

The Moguls of the US Corp Media benefit from the RWing.

How so?

Do some research & post your results, please.

[malaise]

16. That simple n/t

[Kitty Herder]

18. That was my point. I guess I should have posted one of these:

:sarcasm:

[trof]

14. Well, that's it. We're seriesly furked.

Might as well chuck it in.
But wait...!
Didn't Obama's preacher say essentially the same thing?
Just for different, more (marginally) rational reasons?
nevermind
:eyes:

[jeff30997]

15. "As a nation, America is under the curse of God"

If I believed in curses and all those other fairytales I would say that if America was under

the curse of God it would be for serious reasons like slavery,the genocide of the

Native Americans,Iraq,death squads in central and south America,the oppression of minorities and

the list goes on and on.

Nothing to do with the delirium of that bigoted idiot.

[Ilsa]

30. Yeah, we've been cursed for the last 7 1/2 years. nt

[jeff30997]

40. Er...er...

Well I have nothing to say to contradict you.:)

[Jack Rabbit]

19. But did he explicitly say, "God damn America!"?

Otherwise, the IOKIYAR or the IOKIYW rule applies.

[Elspeth]

24. IOKIYAR? IOKIYW ?

:wtf:

[Jack Rabbit]

25. For the uninitiated

IOKIYAR - It's OK if you're a Republican.
IOKIYW - It's OK if you're White.

[Elspeth]

31. Ah...

I would never have guessed.

[wryter2000]

20. Oh, wow

This'll be on all the network newscasts tonight.

:sarcasm:

Unless someone was attacked by a shark. Priorities, people.

[Ilsa]

28. Yeah, it'll be on after they talk about four US soldiers getting killed today in Iraq. nt

[and-justice-for-all]

22. Hagee is a severally delusional and mentally screwed..

moron. He wants the US to attack Iran and he meddles in foreign affairs he has NO RIGHT to meddle in, he is obessed with armageddon, and stuffing his face as well as robbing people blind.

Hagee should be ignored.

[Ilsa]

27. When is McSame going to have to publicly denounce this ugly fart? nt

[Hippo_Tron]

32. Pastor Hagee is white, so it's okay

[OnionPatch]

36. Yep, you got it.

That's it. Plus the fact that they're right-wing. The right doesn't get questioned. Ever. Believe me, if the media brought this up, the story would be how the "liberal" media is trying to slander a good, Christian American.

[MrSlayer]

33. A lot of the people "outraged" by Wright believe in what this Hagee asshole is saying.

That's why it's not an issue. That's why no one is outraged. This jackass saying God is mad at America for aborton and evolution seems reasonable to too many people for it to really be an issue. Wright is black, he's loud, he's animated and he tells ugly truths, that's a story.

Hagee's comments about Jews and Catholics are better red meat than this.

[AzDar]

34. K & R....

:kick:

[Supersedeas]

35. and yet the Free Ride continues

[lib2DaBone]

38. Amen.. you are right.

America IS DOOMED with these Evangelical-Christian Right-wing -Hippocrit- TV- Money Grubing -Phonies.
I am sooo tired of the of these Mega-Church Bible-Beater assholes. Can reasonable people not see thru this crap? Jim Baker is back on TV bilking money from senior citizens. He has a new TV babe and he is rebuilding in Branson,Mo. This is the same shit that sent him to jail 20 years ago.. and the MF is back on TV doing it again! And no one sees it or even cares. effin spare me....

[fascisthunter]

39. Didn't He Call all Catholics Whores?

[jeff30997]

41. Hey,I'm Catholic...

10 bucks for a BJ fascisthunter! :)

[fascisthunter]

43. I Can't Believe

Jeff, you naughty boy.


No thanks.....

[jeff30997]

44. Lol!

Spank me then! :spank:

[DFW]

42. "God CURSES, Dooms AMERICA" ??????

Since when are Cheney and Bush collectively known as "God?"