Frank Rich sums it up, simply and honestly...

[Stuart G]

He says...

"Americans don’t like being lied to by their leaders, especially if there are casualties involved and especially if there’s no accountability. We view it as a crime story, and we won’t be satisfied until there’s a resolution.

That’s why the original sin of the war’s conception remains a political flash point, however much we tune out Iraq as it grinds on today. Even a figure as puny as Mr. McClellan can ignite it. The Democrats portray Mr. McCain as offering a third Bush term, but it’s a third term of the war that’s his bigger problem. Even if he locks the president away in a private home, the war will keep seeping under the door, like the blood in “Sweeney Todd.” ....





.... After seeing many views on Mr. Bush, this one, I believe, says it all. Finally, proof of a lie, and a felony...outing a CIA agent..What more does anyone need?

[Jensen]

1. IMPEACH, IMPEACH ....What are we waiting for???!!!!!!

[tinymontgomery]

6. Sorry

but it's off the table, were keeping our powder dry for when we really need it.

[Jensen]

7. I believe America will do the right thing and the World will also demand it...

sooner or later it will happen! IMPEACH!:patriot:

[bdamomma]

2. if we do not do something is will scar not only us but many generations to come.

how can we leave this to our children, cause we all know this will fall to them. All these innocent people they are killing in Iraq those people will never forget what our country has done to them.

[lonestarnot]

3. Yes it will! We will be the scarface of the world.

[KharmaTrain]

4. The Bar Was Lowered Too Far...

Americans don't like politicans who lie, but they think they all do. It's just how good or bad of liar you are and what you're lying about. We've already learned, thanks to our corporate media, that a lie about sex is always the worst. You can lie about torture or fraud or murder and that doesn't appear anywhere with the "outrage" than if it's a spurned lover or a stained blue dress.

Mike Malloy long ago drew attention (this was in his WSB and WLS days) of the effort by the GOOP and the corporate media to numb people...the elements many of us now call "sheeple". Those people...who are generally in the "middle" that get turned off and it leaves the political debate to the extremes. Then it becomes a shouting and wrestling match between those extremes as to who prevails. For too many years, the right wing easily won that game...now the pendulm is shifting, but it's just starting to move.

I'm listening to Richard Clarke and someone called asking if booosh and cheney should be tried for war crimes. His answer was that we shouldn't have an internation court investigate (I don't agree), but to set up a truth and reconcilation system where our system of checks and balances are restored and a full accounting can be made. I'd like to see this happen as well, but in conjunction with both impeachment and war crimes. A full resolution won't be possible without both...and the center can then be reached.

Cheers..

[bdamomma]

5. the International Community or the International Criminal Court

are not going to let this these thugs run free. Wait until these thugs leave the US to go to one of these European Countries they will not let them get away with their war crimes the way we have.

[glitch]

9. If we don't hold them accountable it is the responsibility of the international community to do it.

By international law it is their duty to step in when a host state can't handle their own parasites.

[Stuart G]

10. Let us assume we get a conviction on Rove...

Say there is a trial..or he is indicted..In December, Bush pardons him. I do not know if he can, if he is not convicted, but then, I ask this question...

.."Is it better to have tried him now, and pardoned by Bush..(assuming no impeachment) than waiting and indicting him later, with no pardon possible. (assuming a democrat gets in)..Perhaps, try em, convict them and try them again..till they get some jail time..Let them hang in that rung of Dante's Hell,...when they don't ever know when it will be over..like they have done to all those soldiers, on their 2nd and 3rd tour..or more......

[glitch]

12. Yeah, I wouldn't mind waiting for it if people weren't still dying.

They're sure are taking all the fun out of their implosion. They've committed so many crimes it would be possible to try them on one, force Bush to pardon, then bring up the next and so on. Run down the clock.

But as long as there are still people dying it's not really possible to play them like they should be played... IMO the Bush Administration is holding a great many people hostage just so that they won't be held accountable for their crimes.

[glitch]

8. Blood seeping under the door is a perfect metaphor for Bush/Cheney

and all their supporters.

[KG]

11. not true. americans are happy to believe lies. esp the lies that play on their fears,

[Disturbed]

13. My greatest concern is that Busholini will allow Israel to

send missiles into Iran & then after Iran retaliates unleash the US Air Force & Navy on Iran.