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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:22 PM
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Hagee: The Antichrist Is Gay, "Partially Jewish"
from The Nation:



Hagee: The Antichrist Is Gay, "Partially Jewish"
posted by Max Blumenthal on 06/02/2008 @ 06:50am




On March 16, 2003, on the eve of the United States' invasion of Iraq, Pastor John Hagee took to the pulpit to warn of the coming Antichrist. In his sermon, "The Final Dictator," Hagee described the Antichrist as a seductive figure with "fierce features." He will be "a blasphemer and a homosexual," the pastor announced. Then, Hagee boomed, "There's a phrase in Scripture used solely to identify the Jewish people. It suggests that this man (the Antichrist) is at least going to be partially Jewish, as was Adolph Hitler, as was Karl Marx."

This "fierce" gay Jew, according to Hagee, would "slaughter one-third of the Earth's population" and "make Adolph Hitler look like a choirboy."

Hear Pastor Hagee's latest Judeophobic, anti-gay rant in this video, created by Bruce Wilson of Talk2Action.org: http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/325628


Exposed here for the first time, Hagee's comments identifying the Antichrist as a partly Jewish homosexual arrive in the wake of a furor the pastor provoked by describing the Holocaust as an act of God. Hagee's chilling sermon about the Holocaust prompted Sen. John McCain to reject the preacher's support, an unexpected turnabout after McCain spent over a year soliciting his endorsement.

Days after McCain's rejection, I reported that a key McCain ally, Sen. Joseph Lieberman, planned to deliver the keynote speech at Hagee's upcoming Christians United For Israel (CUFI) summit. As the story exploded into the mainstream press, pressure mounted on Lieberman to withdraw. ......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/325628





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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:27 PM
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1. Well that's a relief.
Max interviewed people at last years CUFI and they said the antichrist is a peace maker and here now. Though they didn't say so, I was convinced it was Jimmy Carter, and I like him. I am just glad Carter is not the antichrist.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:31 PM
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2. Considering that the first Jesus Christ was all Jewish,
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 01:36 PM by Cleita
how convenient it is that these anti-Semitic Christians conveniently forget that.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:34 PM
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3. Damn you Barney Frank
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:37 PM
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5. Oh my
:spray:
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:19 PM
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20. HAHAHAH
That was funny!
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:54 PM
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30. Barney Frank? Why was I thinking Harvey Fierstein? NT
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:45 PM
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46. lol! me too
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:34 PM
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4. holy shit. I am the antichrist.
bow before me puny mortals!

acccccch. cccccccccccccch. wait do antichrists get hairballs? It must be an unholy hairball. Or a potato chip.

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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:40 PM
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6. OMG....
Liebermann is the anti-christ and Hagee has pulled off the spiritual coup of the millenia by having him appear at thier version of a friars club roast!!! This is hugh!1111!!!!!!1!!!!!

:crazy:
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:46 PM
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7. Harvey Fierstein is the antichrist?
But he's so lovable and talented!



I'm a big fan of the anti-Christ.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:48 PM
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8. Why do you think his voice sounds so funny? It's some kind of weird Satanic tongue....
:evilgrin: :P



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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:54 PM
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11. Please it is Barry Manilow



"I write the songs ..... " aka I have you singing to the devil
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:49 PM
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9. The Antichrist is anyone who teaches hatred of his neighbors
something completely contrary to the teachings of Christ.

If you want to find the Antichrist, get a mirror, Hagee.
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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:49 PM
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10. My pastor said he thought that...
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 01:51 PM by TCJ70
...the anti-christ would be gay. After the sermon myself a few others said that he didn't have any proof of that and that he shouldn't say stuff like that without evidence. He took it pretty well, but he's always looking for feedback from people.

ON EDIT: I guess I should say that this was a particularly strange message for that day and the only time I can remember the anti-christ being mentioned at all at my church. It wasn't in the context of a "let's hate gays because they might be the anti-christ" type of thing...that's just stupid.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:18 PM
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17. Anyone who pulls stuff like that outta their butt ought to shown the door.
And pronto.

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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:29 PM
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22. Meh, it was his opinion...
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 02:30 PM by TCJ70
...that came out at the wrong time (in my opinion). Like I said, it wasn't used in conjunction with a "hate the gays" speech. Besides, if there is going to be an anti-christ, I suppose they could be gay. But it really makes no difference, an anti-christ is an anti-christ.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:36 PM
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25. He is a *pastor*
big difference in his responsibilities from the pulpit vis a vis his opinion.

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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:15 PM
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39. That's one of the better things about our church...
...we have a very approachable pastor. He had no problem with us telling him he was wrong to say that. Our congregation is pretty vocal about stuff like that.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:01 PM
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32. Here's where the biblical basis for a "gay" Jewish antichrist comes from.
Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

- Daniel 11:37

Fundies believe that this "king" referred to in Daniel 11 is the Antichrist. Hagee interprets "God of our fathers" as a uniquely Jewish phrase, and assumes AC would be Jewish. Since Christ was Jewish, this really isn't out of the question.

If someone does not "regard the desire of women", I suppose homosexual orientation would be one explanation, though that is certainly open to interpretation.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:07 PM
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34. Sounds more like a Catholic priest to me n/t
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:10 PM
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37. Good point
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 03:13 PM by newmajority
They also don't "regard the desire of women".

But then other fundies have claimed that the Antichrist would be a Pope.

Guess that would eliminate the Jewish factor though.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:25 PM
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40. LOL - well I was raised Mormon and was taught the anti-Christ would most definitely be
the Pope (Revelations - 7 hills, 7 headed monster etc.) However the church has since stopped teaching that - but you can still find references to it in old books:) Personally I dont believe in Christ yet alone and AntiChrist.




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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:14 PM
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38. Sounds like selfishness to me...
...I guess I just didn't read it that way before.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:57 PM
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12. Gay, partially Jewish, a bit of a "foodie", and an avid stamp collector
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:59 PM
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13. He's projecting again...
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:01 PM
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14. Anyone who believes anything could ever make Hitler seem like a choirboy,
is a serious candidate for Antichrist-dom.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:02 PM
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33. I thought Hitler actually was a choir boy when he was a child.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:26 PM
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41. I'm not and Hagee is certainly not speaking of Hitler's life or deeds as a boy. n/t
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:15 PM
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15. wait, didn't he also call the Pope & the Catholic Church the anti-christ as well?
so many Anti-Christs, how can one be sure?

Just like the epicenter of evil heathen liberal decadence is San Francisco, Hollywood, LA, Las Vegas, Boston or New York City, depending on who you are talking to and when.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:18 PM
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18. Soon there will have to be another GD:P forum...
for the hotly contested primaries between all the contenders to be elected Antichrist.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:35 PM
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24. they're the Whore of Babylon, supposedly...
Which some say is yet a different character, and others say not.


There are people who argue over this stuff seriously.


:scared:

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:17 PM
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16. Fucking wow!
And some people still think this man is a friend of Jews?

And anyone who thinks Hitler was 'partly Jewish' or in any way similar to Marx is off his nut, and probably failed all his history exams at school!

And of course he has to bring the eeevil gays into it.




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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:18 PM
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19. Lieberman is such an ass (N/T)
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:24 PM
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21. Sandy Koufax? No wonder he got so many strike outs.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:33 PM
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23. And Joe Lieberman is going to go put on a show for him
Is there any room for anyone to believe the man is not certifiable? And evil?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:40 PM
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26. I lol'd
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:41 PM
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27. ...


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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:51 PM
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28. I am an Anti-Christ.
I do not believe in the divinity of Jesus, I do not think people should accept Jesus as their saviour as it is nothing but a mental cloud of unreality, I think it is all a bunch of fairy tales designed to keep the kiddies in line, and I try to talk everybody I can out of believing said fairy tales. When the nice old ladies on the street try to hand me the Watchtower, I smile at them sweetly and say "There is no God." I believe Jesus was a dude, like I am, and that he was probably pretty smart and picked up a few yoga tricks on his trip to India.

I am an Anti-Christ.

I believe that Christianity and religion in general have all but ruined our hopes to survive as a species. We are in our death-throes, and the religious people on the planet seem to be encouraging our collective death with every fiber of their beings. I believe that they are doing this because they would rather see the entire planet and all life on it destroyed in a painful, fiery cataclysm than be proven wrong about their fairy tales. Death to all and everything rather than having to admit that they were wrong.

I am not, however, part Jewish or homosexual, so I am not THE Anti-Christ. Just AN Anti-Christ.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:09 PM
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35. I am an anarchist
Don't know what I want but I know how to get it........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bM_l443VV4
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:39 PM
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43. hallelujah! you are the first
evangelical atheist i have had the pleasure to see (well, read). and people claim you don't exist...

sP
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:51 PM
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29. Lieberman is going to come out this week then?
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:57 PM
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31. Come on, Hagee, he's got to be bi, so he can seduce both genders
It wouldn't be fair if the anti-christ only seduced men. He'd be leaving more than half the population out of his quest.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:10 PM
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36. I demand that Skinner closes down the GLBT Forum until
the Partial jewish gay antichrist is found!
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:31 PM
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42. VOTE FOR ME! I hereby declare that I am a candidate!
My slogan: I am here! I am queer! Why the Hell didn't you call your mother?!

:evilgrin:
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:39 PM
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44. "This "fierce" gay Jew" All I know is the PM's bodyguards are so goodlooking it's making me go all
Anti-Christy. Yowza you ever see these guys? They should make a calendar.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:40 PM
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45. This Guy Needs Meds and a Few Shrinks
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