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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:29 PM
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Has any one actually listened to Lionel for more than a half an hour?
He's impenetrable. I have XM and got it specifically for AirAmerica. Over the last year and a half AAR has seemed to be on a jihad against every good liberal host with a grasp of reality and the ability to inform and entertain. Only Rachelle is left in the weekday line up. I have tried repeatedly to listen to Lionel's show, but find with RARE exception that he does an fair imitation of a 10 year old with a sever case of ADD. I cannot figure out what in the world this guy's "point" is. I usually end up listening to "The Power" on 169, instead regardless of whether I agree with Joe Madison on all things he at least carries a thought through for more than 3 minutes.

I really would like someone to explain this guy and his show to me. He seems totally incapable of staying on one topic, and most of his blather is an examination of the minutia that inhabits his mind, not anything to do with politics much less anything important to society from a cultural, artistic, educational perspective.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:31 PM
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1. Lionel is a great pundit, but an awful human being. I can't stand him. n/t
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:36 PM
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2. Who in the world is Lionel??
Never heard of him.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:37 PM
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3. Well you are better off not knowing..
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:39 PM
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6. Short answer: AAR host from 9-12. But I think he had his own show in NYC
Prior to AAR signing him. I really just don't "get" him.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:38 PM
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4. I gave up my XM
There is no reason to listen to AAR anymore, except Rachel, and I can see her on MSNBC almost every night.
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:40 PM
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8. What do you do for progressive talk radio?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:45 PM
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12. I download podcasts to my ipod
I can get Randi and Mike Malloy and a lot of other great shows - all free.
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:50 PM
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14. I never found her, MM, or Randi for free... I will look again... thanks.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:00 PM
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20. I Googled and found them
If you don't have any luck PM me. I am not at home now but I can look them up when I get home.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:25 PM
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24. Are you ever at home?
just sayin'

:rofl:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:46 PM
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27. I am now
You're just jealous. I get out once in awhile.
:rofl:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:39 PM
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5. nope...i guess i should`t care to....
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:39 PM
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7. He sounds like a Mel Blanc/Looney Tunes character.
I can't get past that to anything he might be saying.
So, I listen to Stephanie Miller in the morning.
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:42 PM
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9. You listen to Stephanie via what medium?
I have seen some snippets of her and she seems very good....
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:48 PM
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29. Streaming on the net.
You can listen through her site (www.stephaniemiller.com) but I stream KPHX from Arizona through iTunes.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:43 PM
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10. I sometimes feel like I am the only one who liked his show
granted, I was never a regular listener, but I found him to be pretty entertaining when I did listen.
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:51 PM
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15. Honestly asking: What does he do? Is it supposed to be just funny?
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:22 PM
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23. like I said, never a regular listener
but the few times I heard his show, he tended to be pretty much in the "skeptic rationalist" camp. Not necessarily comedy, although I thought he was funny at times.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:45 PM
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11. Consider this:
AAR drops Sam, but keeps Lionel.

So I have to ask: AAR matters...why?
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:53 PM
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16. AAR only matters, because of Rachel, Ring of Fire
and a couple other weekend shows. I am holding on my my last fingernail just because I don't really see an alternative. I agree that they have gutted almost all of my favorites though.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:58 PM
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18. Well...
Rachel's future is gotta-wear-welding-goggles bright. I wouldn't worry about her.
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:14 PM
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22. Oh I'm not worried about her... I will follow her wherever she goes as long as she is so Maddow-y.
:toast:
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:47 PM
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13. I think he's like the vice presidential bucket of warm spit.
He once spent the entire show several years ago going into excrutiating detail about a pilot who made a miraculous landing -- merely because the topic fascinated him.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:56 PM
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17. Can't stand him
I, too, got XM specifically for Air America. Now rarely listen to it in favor of POTUS channel.

Can stand Schultz for a bit longer - but not by much.

Hope they book Seder for the afternoon. Wish they could book Hatmann.

Listen to NOVA via computer in house.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:59 PM
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19. I have. I listened to every minute for 1 week. Here's the summaries
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:09 PM
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21. Exactly, he comes on in the middle of the night..
where I live sometimes an hour or two. I cannot listen to him for very long and he usually brings up some subject and seems to never have callers. He says he is going to talk about one thing and then the next thing I know I am hearing something else.

This other guy also comes on from 9 til 11 and he is unbearable also, he now has something about 911 conspiracies or some other nonsense I can't stand to listen I have to turn them both off.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:29 PM
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25. Air America
jumped the shark when they got rid of Mike Malloy.

He was my favorite and always will be.


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:47 PM
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28. Me too
I LOVE Mike.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:17 PM
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35. !!!!

:rofl:

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:34 PM
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36. I am shaking - NOT
:rofl:
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:44 PM
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26. Lionel's perspective is this, I think...
He views the radio business as NOT BEING a political science class at your local college. I think he believes that that is not the way to get the "average" Joe Sixpack to listen. He thinks radio is entertainment and that is what he tries to do.

I think he's probably "old school" when it comes to the business. I think he sees his job as not being that of an NPR...
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:55 PM
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30. seems like there's a lot of ground to cover between Joe Six Pack and NPR
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 04:55 PM by Iris
but I guess always playing to the least common denominator is a sure fire way to "success" in this country
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:00 PM
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32. Ok... Now we're having a conversation...
but I wouldn't say Rachel is NPR (what with stuff like "Ask Dr. Maddow" and she is quite entertaining, Malloy, and Randi, were far from NPR or a poli-sci class but still managed to be informative and entertaining. I guess his rambling and seeming inability to stay on topic, stream of consciousness, is just not my cup of tea. I find surrealism difficult to "get" as well.
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:55 PM
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31. No nt
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:13 PM
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33. I listen to Lionel everyday. I think he is very intelligent and insightful
sorry to see so many dislike him.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:14 PM
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34. I made it to one minute 47 seconds one time.... It was my personal best


Before that it was less than 44 seconds.
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