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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:55 AM
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Senator Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)


Every morning, my oldest daughter (age 14) and I watch the news together, and discuss "current events." Today, of course, there is coverage of the 40th anniversary of the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy. She asked me what I remembered from that day? As I answered her, I felt a lump in my throat, something I suspect others my age are experiencing today.

My oldest brother used to be focused on the deaths of JFK and RFK. My father always said that he was missing their true significance, which was their lives, rather than their deaths.

This morning, I thought I’d share ten quotes that remind me of what it was that made Robert Kennedy such an important leader for so many Americans who are remembering him today. I hope that you enjoy them, and will add your thoughts on RFK.

Thanks,
H2O Man

{1} "Bobby was forging a new democratic coalition – a politics of outsiders – that he could only hope would be enough to gain the nomination. Kennedy emerged as ‘our first politician for the pariahs, our great national outsider, our lonely reproach, the natural standard held out to rebels,’ Kempton observed. ‘That is the wound about him which speaks to children he has never seen. He will always speak to children, and he will probably always be out of power.’ Once the hard-charging realist of his brother’s campaign, Bobby Kennedy turned into an almost quixotic candidate who jumped into the murky waters of 1968 on impulse rather than by calculated design. …. Bobby wouldn’t hear of not running. What he said about the lessons of Vietnam now seemed to apply to himself and his country: ‘Tragedy is a tool for the living to gain wisdom, not a guide by which to live.’ " – Thomas Maier; The Kennedys: America’s Emerald Kings

{2} "Being Irish, I have an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustains me through temporary periods of joy." – W. B. Yeats

{3} "What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence or lawlessness, but love and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling that justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or they be black." – Robert F. Kennedy; April 4, 1968

{4} "After a long discussion of the country’s woes, the interviewer asked Bobby, ‘But you are an optimist?’ Kennedy nodded and smiled his weary-eyed smile. ‘Just because you can’t live any other way, can you?’ he replied. He was America’s first and last existential leader." – David Talbot; Brothers

{5} "It has been said that each generation must win its own struggle to be free …..But the stakes are the same: the right to live in dignity according to the dictates of conscience and not according to the will of the state." – Robert F. Kennedy

{6} "I love my country too much to be a nationalist." – Albert Camus

{7} "Dangerous changes in American life are indicated by what is going on in America today. Disaster is our destiny unless we reinstall the toughness, the moral idealism which has guided this nation during its history. The paramount interest in oneself, for money, for material goods, for security, must be replaced by an interest in one another – an actual, not just vocal, interest in our country; a search for adventure, a willingness to fight, a will to win; a desire to serve our community, our schools, our nation.

{8} "So if we are uneasy about our country today, perhaps it is because we are truer to our principles than we realize, because we know that our happiness will come not from goods we have but from the good we do together …. We say with Camus: ‘I should be able to love my country and still love justice.’ " – Robert F. Kennedy
{9} "Some people see things and say, ‘Why?’ But I dream things that never were, and I say, ‘Why not?’ " – George Bernard Shaw

{10} "On the day Robert Kennedy himself died, a New York Seneca, whose reservation he had visited in 1967, wrote his widow: ‘We loved him, too, Mrs. Kennedy. Loving a public official is almost unheard of, as history bears out. We trusted him. Unheard of, too, for an Indian. We had faith in him.’ Vine Deloria, Jr., the Standing Rock Sioux who wrote ‘Custer Died for Your Sins,’ observed that Kennedy’s intercession had probably discouraged federal action ‘because of his many political enemies and their outright rejection of causes he advocated.’ Still, said Deloria in a fine sentence, he was a man ‘who could move from world to world and never be a stranger anywhere.’ And Indians thought him ‘as great a hero as the most famous Indian war chiefs precisely because of his ruthlessness.’ At last, somewhere, that reputation had its advantages. ‘Indians,’ said Deloria, ‘saw him as a warrior, the white Crazy Horse’ – the great war chief of the Oglala Sious who did, Deloria said, what was best and what was for the people.’ Kennedy, Deloria concluded, ‘somehow validated obscure undefined feelings of Indian people which they had been unwilling to admit to themselves. Spiritually, he was an Indian.’"
--Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.; Robert Kennedy and His Times
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:10 AM
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1. A great man who is missed dearly.
Famous Irish Blessing

May the road rise to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
The rain fall soft upon your fields.
And until we meet again,
May God hold you in the palm of his hand.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:13 AM
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2. Sometimes, I try and focus on the fourth quote you have listed this morning,
especially since 2000. It's what I use to keep myself sane and not depressed.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:28 AM
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3. Number 9 has always had significance for me.
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 08:33 AM by AngryOldDem
I needed to read that right about now because I'm feeling hopeless and cynical about a lot of stuff.

Thanks for the post.

40 years gone. From time to time, I wonder: What might have been?

ON EDIT: A part of this New York Times op-ed by Kerry Kennedy was read on Morning Joe this morning. This quote especially affected me because it has SO much resonance with today and these times -- especially the last phrase:

<<As an adult, I recognize that the lessons my father taught us children mirrored the beliefs he wanted the nation to embrace — that we must build a system of justice which enjoys the confidence of all sides; that peace is not something to pray for, but something everyone has the responsibility to create every day; and that we must muster the courage to face the truth about ourselves as well as those we consider our enemies.<<

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/05/opinion/05kerrykennedy.html
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:39 AM
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4. I reember exactly where I was and what I was doing. It was heartstopping,
especially after having lived thru the assassination of JFK.

It is almost too much to try to think of what might have been had RFK been elected.

Thanks for this post. It is exquisite.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:41 AM
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5. Thank you for this tribute.
Heh: "Being Irish, I have an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustains me through temporary periods of joy." – W. B. Yeats
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:52 AM
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7. A few years ago,
I bought a couple of t-shirts with that quote on them. I sent one to my brother in Oregon, and he said it is his favorite shirt.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:42 AM
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6. My dad had one of those pins
I'll have to ask my mom if she still has it somewhere. My dad brought us to visit Bobby in Washington after he won the senate race -- with our help, of course. That was my first innvolvement with politics (I was 9) and I stuffed envelopes and went door-to-door for our "carpetbagger" candidate. The campaign song went something like this:

Robert Kennedy
Wait till November three
That's gonna be a great day!

I was impressed with how big his office was and how gracious and friendly he was to us kids. He also had the hairiest hand I had ever seen on a human being. He took a special interest in my 7-year-old brother, who is developmentally disabled. This busy man talked with him for nearly a half hour and gave him a PT-109 pin as souvenir. Wasn't that time! We miss you, Bobby.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:54 AM
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8. That's a tie clip
that he handed out on the courthouse steps in Norwich, NY. It remains one of my favorite things that I own and wear on special ocassions.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:36 AM
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10. Do'h! The PT-109 souvenir was a tie clip, too.
I had pins on my brain because I was thinking back on the boxes of campaign pins we had for handing out when going door to door.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:05 AM
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9. I will forever miss Bobby.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:27 PM
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11. "Where there is plenty, poverty is evil" Robert F. Kennedy
:cry:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:31 PM
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12. k&r
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:33 PM
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13. anybody here seen my old friend bobby?
Has anybody here seen my old friend Abraham?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good they die young.
You know, I just looked around and he's gone.

Anybody here seen my old friend John?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good they die young.
I just looked around and he's gone.

Anybody here seen my old friend Martin?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good they die young.
I just looked 'round and he's gone.

Didn't you love the things that they stood for?
Didn't they try to find some good for you and me?
And we'll be free
Some day soon, and it's a-gonna be one day ...

Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walk up over the hill,
With Abraham, Martin and John.


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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:50 AM
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16. I love that song.
It's beautiful. Thank you for posting it.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:34 PM
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14. Lovely post
Thank you.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:00 PM
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15. Disaster is our destiny...unless...
What a mind. What a heart. What a human being.

Camus. Shaw. Aeschylus. Epictetus.

versus:

"I gave up golf for the war."

What a far cry our day is from his.



{7} "Dangerous changes in American life are indicated by what is going on in America today. Disaster is our destiny unless we reinstall the toughness, the moral idealism which has guided this nation during its history. The paramount interest in oneself, for money, for material goods, for security, must be replaced by an interest in one another – an actual, not just vocal, interest in our country; a search for adventure, a willingness to fight, a will to win; a desire to serve our community, our schools, our nation.

Thank you for remembering a most important man, H20 Man. Thanks also for an oustanding story and thread, to which I'd like to add:

"The priority for change-the first element of a new politics for the United States-is in our policy toward the world. Too much and for too long, we have acted as if our great military might and wealth could bring about an American solution to every world problem..." -Robert F. Kennedy, 1968

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:51 AM
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17. We have some
unfinished business in this country. I know that for many of us, this is an important anniversary. Important days, today, too. I was hoping you would see this OP.
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