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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:13 AM
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15 child brides used to settle Pakistan feud

Declan Walsh in Islamabad
The Guardian,
Thursday June 5 2008


It started with a dead dog, escalated into a tit-for-tat tribal war, and has now reached a grotesque climax with the exchange of 15 child brides.

Pakistani human rights activists are outraged at reports that a long-running blood feud in a remote corner of western Baluchistan province has been resolved by the handing over of 15 girls, aged between three and 10, for marriage.

"There has to be action," said Asma Jahangir, a leading rights campaigner. "These people who force others to sell their daughters must be sent to prison."

The new government in Islamabad, led by the party of the late Benazir Bhutto, has promised to act. "We will not allow young girls to be traded like this," said the information minister, Sherry Rehman. "The culprits who tried to do this will be arrested. The orders have been given."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/05/pakistan.humanrights
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:19 AM
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1. Sounds like something that could happen in Tennessee.
:crazy:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:22 AM
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2. Or Texas?
FDLS
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:55 AM
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5. the texas thing was obviously a Pedophile Farm to raise babys for barter and sale, there are no
records, no paper trail of births.. just a lot of missing little boys and pregnant little girls.

what other conclusion can one come to, when the only records are the shipment of minor girls from canada who end up pregnant at 13-14.. they are swapping little girls to avoid the problems brought by incest, which is the DNA, POTENTIAL COURT DOCUMENT proving a crime of incest.
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:56 AM
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6. It would be appreciated if your subject line read "or FLDS"
especially since the State of Texas was (perhaps overly!) proactive in trying to end the abuse of women and children going on among the FLDS.

As a Texan.

Meanwhile, as to the story: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:08 AM
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9.  wasnt the "TEXAS THING" refered to FDL's,,??
get a life
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:09 AM
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11. I am not even sure what you're trying to say
Two ad hominem attacks in a row, though - good work.

:eyes:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:23 AM
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13. you will have to step out of your agenda to understand
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:35 AM
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17. It would be appreciated if you could follow point A to point B without
needing a lot of help.

Of course I was talking about the FDLS thing. Get a grip.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:45 AM
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3. i was in an Arab Republic '73 Peace Corps, this is odd, not the Pedophilia, but the Dog.. Arabs have
an old saying.. "a dog and its owner are both dogs".. they don't think much of dogs and i never saw one treated well.
so there is something weird about this.. perhaps the situation was set up to acquire tribute..the children of minority rivals in exchange for end of violence

slavery on the other hand is institutional. Mohamed was the direct descendant of Abraham and a slave girl.. that is why there is so much in their Book about how to treat slaves, there are open slave markets all over the middle east, they sell little girls and boys, last i heard for $50-$30, often stolen black Moors, who are also Muslim

http://members.aol.com/casmasalc/african_slave_trade.html

http://www.domini.org/openbook/sud80210.htm
i heard a discussion about this area yesterday on NPR.. they attack villages, rape the women then kill all the adults. march the children to distributing centers.. if i child cant keep up the kidnappers make the children kill their friend, then he is butchered, cooked and fed to them.

http://www.peacefaq.com/slavery.html
In Sudan radical Islamists in Khartoum use slave raids as a weapon in their self-declared jihad on black Christians and animists in the south Arab militias storm African villages, shoot the men and capture the women and children."
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:51 AM
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4. All dogs? All Arabs?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:05 AM
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7. you infer way to much.. referring to where i was.. never saw a dog with any hair left on it from th...
mange. no one can ever cover all the sub sets.. i only have one hand, typing is a pain..

of course not, this story doesn't refer to all Muslims either. it is in the territories.. i have heard a lot worse stories from that part of the world, and NOTHING i will ever hear from there will surprise me. it seems that some things from the Tribal areas are not only NOT representative of muslims, but not Representative of our species in general.. I HOPE

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:08 AM
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8. No need to type if it gives you pain.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:09 AM
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10. i am sorry you are so easly .... confused?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:18 AM
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12. I infer nothing...
...I merely pointed out the most famous example of a dog breed not treated like crap by Arabs.

I saw a show on Discover Channel (or something) about how they use the dogs to hunt. It is amazing.

The falconer will set the bird off to search for food.

The man and dog will sit on a camel waiting for the falcon to start circling.

Once it starts, the dog will take off and not stop until it catches dinner.

They run as fast as--and some say faster than--greyhounds, which is what makes it so awesome.

More history
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:29 AM
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15. you mentioned no special breed, and if you noticed ir predicated my statement to where i had been.
that statement was told to me by a Muslim Moor, notice the " "s.? ... in an Islamic Republic

you are aparently just contrary or rude..
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:31 AM
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16. My apologies. n/t
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:24 AM
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14. I hope that they are
successful in curbing these archaic and disgusting practices. Pakistan has a way to go before progressive politics makes a dent in the way things run, but those poor girls.


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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:00 PM
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18. men's war against women continues - girls as property


when are the good men going to stand up and protect girls from being the property of a male?
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