Pipes: Bush Will Attack Iran If A Democrat Wins The White House»

[babylonsister]

:wow: :wtf: Between November and January? That will add to his legacy...

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/05/pipes-democrat-iran/

Pipes: Bush Will Attack Iran If A Democrat Wins The White House»


Daniel Pipes, a far right-wing pseudo scholar who called the NIE report on the halting of Iran’s nuclear program a “shoddy, politicized, outrageous parody of a piece of propaganda,” said he believes that President Bush will attack Iran if a Democrat wins the White House in November. During an interview posted at the National Review Online, Pipes said that the U.S. and its allies should tell Tehran to “watch out” for “an American attack”:

What I suspect will be the case is, should the Democratic nominee win in November, President Bush will do something. And should it be Mr. McCain that wins, he’ll punt, and let McCain decide what to do.

Pipes also said that countries like Russia and China should aid the U.S. in pressuring Iran, if they want to prevent America attacking unilaterally:

Look, if you don’t want an American attack, then you have to join us in being very serious with the Iranians and making clear to them we will attack if they don’t stop.

Pipes, who has a history of what The Nation calls “signature distortions,” is just the latest in a rising chorus of voices advocating that Bush attack Iran before his term ends. The Israeli newspaper Yediot Achronot reported that Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert planned to encourage Bush to prepare an attack against Iran during his meeting with the President yesterday.

The White House denies any intent to strike Iran, but that hasn’t stopped Vice President Dick Cheney or former U.N. ambassador John Bolton from promoting the idea.

– Pat Garofalo

[bryant69]

1. This is plausible. Scarily so.

Of course it also strikes me as plausible, given Bush's messianic view of himself, that he'll just refuse to concede the office while the nation is under a crisis.

Bryant
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[RC]

8. If that is the case, then I would think Obama would have some other ideas...

We've changed administrations while waging war before.

[AndyTiedye]

17. If He Is Ever Allowed to Take Office

:scared:

[Alter Ego]

2. Democratic Congress, people.

They may not be the most courageous bunch but there is no fucking way in hell they'd let this happen.

[SteveM]

7. Bush will pass wind at Congress when he attacks. Loudly (nt)

[Alter Ego]

11. A sizable part of the military leaders do not like Dubya

and they would never go along with this.

Seriously. It would be tantamount to him declaring martial law--we all are paranoid it's going to happen but the fact is that it's not.

[AndyTiedye]

18. The Air Force Has Been Packed With Fundies

and they have the :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[SteveM]

19. Like him or not, they will do what he tells them...

I think there is little doubt that he will attack Iran. My worry (and it's not paranoia) is he will hang around after January 20th to make a point: the war is permanent, the UnitaryPresidencty is permanent, and predictable succession (the Hallmark of any legitimate government) is disrupted. Such disruption will corrupt our system of governance, making the U.S. prime for more authoritarian governance in the near future.

Bush is expendable. So is American Democracy; after all, hasn't "the world changed forever"?

[FatDave]

25. If he tried to stay in power past 1/20/09...

...regardless of the situation, he would be stopped, most likely by the secret service. Either that or we would have full on in the streets revolution.

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. Revolution, nah, idol's on

seriously.. I know we have had demonstrations, but we delude ourselves if we believe people will do that

We ain't hurting enough yet

[FatDave]

30. All we'd need is a good leader.

And I didn't say it had to be violent.

[warren pease]

31. Oh come now...

Pelosi? Reid? All the rest of the GOPiggies hiding behind that little "D" after their names?

What are these useless enablers going to do about it?

I know. They'll all gather on the capitol steps and sing patriotic songs and display their little lead-painted, made-in-China-by-slave-labor flag lapel pins.

Then the speechifying begins. They'll pin all kinds of sub-human atrocities on the unspellable Iranian president, just as they used Saddam as the personification of evil who gradually became an interchangeable synonym for the entire population of Iraq. That way, you're not killing innocent women and kids; you're killing evil doers who are the moral equivalents of their evil hearted leader.

But back to the show... Our loyal opposition will fall all over themselves to sound like the toughest war-mongering congressional hard asses since Pearl Harbor. Or maybe since 2001 when we had our very own "attack."

Pearl Harbor II -- De Planes! De Planes! (A made-for-TV BushCo production. Rated PG-13)

For the grand finale, they'll form their old familiar Bushie suck-up conga line and shake their money makers for the CNN cameras while waving little flags and chanting USA! USA! USA!

Meanwhile, in the offal office, the Bushies are once again laughing their asses off at the sheer incompetence of these ridiculous hyenas as they fall for the same old shit again and again and again.

Don't forget; these people claimed they voted for the Iraq War Resolution not because they actually wanted war. Oh hell no. They voted for war because they wanted peace. They say they were conned into believing a WAR RESOLUTION was actually an attempt to get the issue in front of the UN and find a peaceful solution.

And who ran this incredible scam and made fools of all these politically astute veterans of beltway treachery?

Why, it was only the stupidest, dullest, least convincing and most untrustworthy lying, mass murdering asshole ever to occupy the white house in US history.

But that's OK; their hearts were in the right place.

These are the people you trust to stand tall and deny the Bushies one last orgasmic spasm? One last glorious bombing run? One last chance to cause mass bloodshed, the death of hundreds of thousands of innocents, the maiming of uncountable others, the total destruction of another country's infrastructure, and the onset of incalculable misery and dislocation for another poor mid eastern country that's hiding our oil under their sand? Don't start channeling Pollyanna at this stage of the game.

But is it really their last hurrah? It's only their final bow if you assume they're going to actually leave office as the 22nd amendment says they must. That assumption is based on their eight year track record of absolute indifference to the law of the land? Their sneering disrespect for the Constitution?

Or their amazing compendium of illegal signing statements, executive orders, presidential directives, eyes-only plans for continuity of government under the secret provisions of NSPD 51 that even the House Homeland Security Committee was barred from reviewing? That's respect for the Constitutional division of powers.

They've gotten away with this incredible list of felonies partly because they stocked federal benches with lunatic wingnut corporatist reactionaries vetted by the fascist maniacs at the Federalist Society. Loons who could be relied upon to turn a blind eye to any hint of felonious behavior by the Bushies. So that's one down.

They were also adamant in politicizing every single cabinet level department, notably the DoJ and State Dept., along with all regulatory agencies. In the latter cases, every chief administrator for these oversight agencies was drawn from the ranks of execs from the very industries they were now supposed to regulate.

To the shock of none, these industry apologists have all done their level best to avoid actually doing their jobs. They've been unique in the regulatory history in refusing to enforce any rules or exercise any oversight -- and they most particularly refuse to mess with any corporation that gives money to the RNC and/or the Bushies, no matter how outrageous their violations or how many people those violations will kill -- immediately or years later, when the cancer-causing agents have had time to get comfortable in their new homes.

So what's missing in this vast ocean of criminality and corruption? The intervention of the same congress you assume will ride to the rescue and save us all from the Bushies before they bomb Iran. Which congress are you thinking of?

The one I'm familiar with has become increasingly irrelevant with every cave-in -- and there have been too many to list. They've earned exactly zero respect from anyone who matters, giving the GOPiggies -- who I hear actually lost both houses in 2006 -- a free pass to rule the country as if it were 2001 all over again.

And you place your hopes for denying the Bushies their bit of fun on this sorry pack of complicit liars and conniving cowards?

I think you might be expecting a little more than these invertebrates can deliver. Hell, Reid can't even get Lieberman to sit down and shut up. Maybe Obama's little heart to heart will pay some dividends. At the very least, Joementum must be wondering deep down if he's in line for a serious ass kicking.

Too bad human cloning is illegal in the US. We could sure use a few hundred more Obamas and a whole lot less of the Pelosi, Reid, Hoyer, Clinton, Emmanuel et al DLC GOPiggies in drag.

Did I mention how sick I am of the alleged democratic "leadership?"


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[electropop]

3. That's why impeachment is an urgent necessity for National Security reasons.

Bush is intent on destroying America as his life's work. He's as loony as Hitler was in his final days.

[krispos42]

4. Well, then, I hope the mass military resignations on Nov. 5...

...can buy enough time for Congress to impeach on Nov. 6th.

[stray cat]

5. Is that like going home and kicking the dog if you don't get your way at work?

Vote Republican or I'll start another endless war!

[babylonsister]

10. That's what it sounds like; blackmail, threats, extortion. nt

[SteveM]

12. PermaWar = UnitaryPresidency. Has nothing to do with dogs...

Bush is utterly committed to PermaWar because his philosophy of authoritarian executive power flows from PermaWar. He is completely relentless and knows the weakness of Democrats in Congress and the lack of meaningful opposition at-large. The goal of the far right is an authoritarian presidency, now and in the future.

[Iggo]

6. So if a Dem wins, Chimpy muders Iranians?

Isn't that some kind of crime?

[Junkdrawer]

9. Or...*dial* --- ring...ring...ring...

"Hello. Osama? It's me George. No, the son. Yeah. How's the wives? And the kids? Yeah, they grow up so fast."

"Remember that job you did in NYC? Well, a few of the boys here wondered if your schedule is open, say...October?"

[babylonsister]

14. Bite your tongue, but who among us would be 'shocked'? nt

[lonestarnot]

24. You left off the heh heh hehing shoulder shrug

:puke:

[dorkulon]

13. Don't you think he'll probably do it BEFORE the election?

To help McCain win? We need to be ready for this.

[Iggo]

27. Here in California...

...our statewide police mobilization isn't until November 13th. They're calling it an "earthquake preparedness drill." So I'd say no martial law until 11/13 at the earliest.



:tinfoilhat: :hi:

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. No way

Sorry I ain't buyin it.

[truth2power]

16. "pseudo scholar" I like that. Anyway, are we supposed to be

all scared and everything?

Asshat!!!

[hokies4ever]

20. He's likely to attack Iran before November as it is

[klyon]

23. terrorist attack before Iran after definitely Iran sometime

makes sense to me
hopefully the military will refuse to drop the bomb on Iran

[ladjf]

21. If he is dumb and mean enough to do that, there will be serious

repercussions for him, not to mention the rest of us.

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. One word: SOMALIA

this is the MO....

And those who don't believe this, I have a huge bridge to sell them

[City Lights]

28. Throw his ugly ass in jail!

:fuming:

[AntiFascist]

29. This is EXACTLY why we need serious threats of impeachment...

where is Conyers when we need him? Its never too late to impeach.

[warren pease]

32. No threats; just haul all these bastards up on charges and get them the hell out of office NOW. n/t