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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 04:48 PM
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Dean in 2005 said we will make Republicans spend their money defending races in safe areas...
That was one of the main goals of Howard Dean when he started the 50 State plan. He said by working as Democrats in every state we would force the GOP to defend and spend their money on races they always considered safe. He said his plan would take years to really take hold.

Others are starting to see that by forcing the other party to drain its resources, you are at the same time building up your own.

I saw this statement today and said to myself "oh yeah she gets it."

Added Democratic pollster Celinda Lake: "I think the 50 state strategy put in play a lot of western states that are extremely good for Obama, because they are change oriented and increasingly Democratic. Though no one noticed it, the west is purple."

Obama's task, however, is not just to flip states into his column, but rather to make enough areas competitive so that McCain and the Republican Party are forced to drain their resources. In this regard, Dean's vision may prove more successful.

Draining the GOP resources.


This was a very important article at US News and World Report in October 2006. I posted it in my journal, but journals are down today....so luckily I found the article.

It is called a New Map Out West.

The GOP has ruled the Rockies, but demographics give Democrats new hope

Overall, service and professional jobs are multiplying throughout the West as farming and mining employment, economic staples for years, have declined. Demand is growing for public services such as mass transit, healthcare, and schools, making the Democrats' pro-government image more appealing and the GOP calls for lower taxes and less government more problematic. Increasingly pragmatic voters also appear less interested in the "values issues" that have tended to help Republicans, such as same-sex marriage, abortion, and gun control.

Add it all up, and Democrats hope a new day is dawning. "We intend to contest Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Nevada as a unit next time in the presidential because we think we can win there," Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean told U.S. News. Dean's theory is that, with a combined total of 29 electoral votes, those four states would make it unnecessary for the Democrats to win Florida, with 27 electoral votes, which they have lost in the last two down-to-the-wire presidential elections. "Bill Clinton won every single one of those states at one time or another," Dean added.

Big brother.

Dean said the key to the Democratic resurgence lies in what he sees as the rightward, interventionist shift of the national GOP. "The Republican Party has become the big-brother party, and this is a very libertarian part of the country. ... (Westerners) don't believe it's the government's place to tell them what to do with their personal lives, and this is a government that specializes in telling people what to do in their personal lives."


By working in all the states, the strategy has been to build our party. But as a side effect, it is meant to hurt the Republicans who had so many states all to themselves for years.

Even on some close races ultimately lost by the Democrat, the GOP had to spend vast sums of money on seats they haven't had to defend in years.

Here is one example I found. They dumped over 200,000 into Idaho to prevent a rout by Democrats.

From 2006:

GOP dumping at least 200 thousand in Idaho

With several polls showing Grant nipping at Sali's heels, the NRCC has dumped almost $200k into this state in order to prevent a Democratic rout in Idaho, according to the latest FEC filings. And they're not done yet: the Club For Growth has scurried back into the fray, pumping in an emergency transfusion of $180k for oppositional TV ads against Grant earlier today. And knowing the Club For Growth, they're going to be leaving their kid gloves at home. Grant is within striking distance of costing them a crucial ally in the House, and they're not happy about it.


I think the Democrat in this race eventually lost, but the Republicans knew the Democrats had been there. And they had to open their wallets for a very "safe" state.. which is not safe any longer.



When Democratic Chairman Howard Dean sent Idaho Democrats the money to double the size of the state party’s tiny staff, it seemed a vainglorious gesture. Silly. Stupid, even. Few states are as Republican Red as Idaho.

Dean’s critics, and there are many here, call his “50-state strategy” to direct a chunk of the party’s treasury to states that don’t routinely elect Democrats a colossal waste of resources.


States like this may not be in the win column for Democrats yet, but Dean's goal of making Republicans spend their money is working.


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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 04:53 PM
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1. Sounds like a great strategy to me.
I can't imagine what Democrats would be against it.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 05:00 PM
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2. That means the repukes have to steal a lot more states then just OH and FL.
Is the repuke election stealing machine still in operation for McSame? Who's running it and who's part of it?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 06:10 PM
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4. Don't know about Ohio, but FL elections are totally controlled
by the GOP..the Sec of State who controls it only answers to the governor. Not much real oversight here.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 06:17 PM
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5. AZSoS and Maricopa County Recorder are both big-time RNC operators
too, but since our governor is an ambitious up-and-comer for the party we may get some serious scrutiny.

Right now we are trending way more purple than I would have expected.

Good luck, FL. We've got your back...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:54 PM
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10. Well, our governor is a decent guy, but he is a staunch Republican
at the end of the day. The legislature has no oversight of the sec. of state, and that bothers me.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:39 PM
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13. Ohio has dems in office now
n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 05:02 PM
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3. Once again, Arizona has a stellar chance to go blue as it did for Clinton's first run
and to carry state and local races with it. Even our favorite son (mcBush) candidate is not polling nearly as well as expected!

Thank you, Dr. Dean!

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 06:26 PM
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6. Dean is also (seemingly) instructing our team to talk about Florida 2000 at every opportunity.
I think that is a very wise decision--it keeps the enabling state and local election officials under scrutiny and if they attempt to throw it this time they will have to answer some very embarrassing questions.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 06:45 PM
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8. Well, he sure spoke about 2000 at the DNC meeting...
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2170

He sounded sad and pissed off about what was done to Gore.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 06:30 PM
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7. K&R More great stuff
from my friend MF! :toast:

Julie
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 06:56 PM
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9. Hi, Julie.
I have to post about something, and my time is limited to post about FL...:evilgrin:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:40 PM
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22. MF! You and Julie, posting here...
I'm about to go to sleep, but the 50 state strategy is definitely working in the Rocky Mountain states!

Love you gals...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 12:12 AM
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28. You too, janx.
:hi:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 12:22 AM
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29. Seconded - you guys are the best!
The 50-State Strategy is a winner. It already started paying dividends in the very next election cycle. And it IS INDEED shrewd strategy forcing the enemy to defend territory they'd always considered safe. PARTICULARLY in a year like this when their fundraising halls aren't what they're used to raking in. They're already playing heavy defense there, and usually they have us outraised and outspent rather overwhelmingly. Their resources are already uncharacteristically thin. Let's thin it out even more!
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:56 PM
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11. What money?
Grandpa can hardly scare up a quarter for his grandkids.

All Snark aside. Yes, Dean is a genious. I'm grateful he's on our side.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:26 PM
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12. Love your sig picture. Makes me smile.
:hi:
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:09 PM
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14. Love Howard Dean!
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 04:50 PM
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15. Chuck Todd
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25004343/page/2/
(snip)
Clinton may have lost this fight as early as Feb. ’05 with the election of Howard Dean as chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

Dean’s election was a clear break from the past, and from the Clinton way of running the DNC. In hindsight, it was a mistake for a political family which believed it controlled the Democratic Party to have allowed Dean and his grassroots followers to take over.

Perhaps the Clintons believed they couldn’t stop Dean, but this early sign of weakness led to an unfriendly primary calendar. And that included the punishment of Florida and Michigan and the decision to put South Carolina and Nevada before Clinton’s preferred early states of Alabama and Arizona.

While tiny decisions at the time, all resulted in huge ramifications for Clinton’s candidacy.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 05:12 PM
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18. Thanks for posting that. I missed that article.
:hi:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:14 PM
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19. you're very welcome madfloridian. Thank you so
much for all your posts on Howard Dean and the DNC. I hope we'll be seeing him for a very long time.
:hi:
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 05:01 PM
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16. He is HUGELY successful!!! The Republicans, FINALLY, can't BUY their seats!!!
AND,...the money for Democrats are POURING IN,...$5, $10, $20 at millions donating, rather than the usual multi-millionaires.

The truth is,...when the masses throw their weight around,...even the most elite CAN NOT COMPETE.

That's the lesson.

Now,...are we ready to learn and unite against those greedy muther-ucks who will oppress us,...or get distracted by the new and improved "talking points"?

That is the question.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 05:07 PM
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17. IIRC Carville was one of the people who thought the strategy was a waste
OF course, he's married to the GOP, so why wouldn't he say that?

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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:18 PM
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20. This is a smart strategy that paid off for us in 2006 and will pay off for us in 2008.
The governors love Howard Dean and it is easy to see why.

He has put the party back on the path to victory. He is a great leader and I am so happy he will stay on as head of the DNC.

We need him.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:37 AM
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25. Actually, it's simply putting the Democratic Party back together again . . .
doing what they used to do!! Especially having reps out in the communities talking about
the party and its policies ---
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:25 PM
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21. Is Dean going to turn out the be the Democrats' Karl Rove? The Architect? Looks like
Obama's primary campaign bought into the concept, doesn't it?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:50 PM
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23. From the conference call today with Dean, Obama, Tewes and others...
sounds like they are planning on building from the ground up...going after down ticket races and building the party as well as getting a president elected.

Great post at Kos on this.

Dean kicked it off and then introduced Obama, who spoke for just a couple minutes. He emphasized that be believes that "change comes from the grass-roots up, not the top down," and said that the watch-word for the approach in working with the state democratic parties was going to be "respect." He noted that they would be doing a lot of listening because "obviously" you know your states better than we do. He mentioned the "50-state" strategy a couple of times. Perhaps most interestingly and importantly, he strongly stressed that the campaign is not going to be just about winning the White House, but building the party, and that they were going to think about all of the races on the ticket, not just those at or near the top. And that there was a strong desire to building a lasting political machine that create victories far into the future. There was a real sense of the big picture, of an attempt a real real and lasting realignment. And, just as clearly, it seemed to me that they realize that winning the White House isn't enough; they want a real mandate for change, and decisive margin of victory in the House and Senate. In sum, Obama was gracious but confident-sounding too, and plainly in charge. Obama then thanked everyone again and turned things over to Paul Tewes and Marygrace Galston, who were just installed at DNC headquarters. I won't go into any detail about strategy and tactics, but I totally came away from the call thinking that there is going to be a high degree of coordination, through the DNC, with all the state parties. It was really exciting to get a glimpse of the work that is being done to put a system in place that should succeed this fall, and well into the future.

WOOT! My first recommended diary. Thanks everyone.

One other thing I found refreshing about what was said during the call is that Obama, Tewes, and Galston all said "we know that hiccups are going to happen, especially in the first few weeks, but we don't want anyone to get distracted by those, and we apologize in advance if something doesn't go as planned." I was particularly impressed with Galston too, and it seemed that she will be heading up the coordination, and leading on putting Obama for America people in place in each state. Yes we can!


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/6/181056/8813/585/531316

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:35 AM
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24. GOP has been running propaganda 24/7 for the past 30 years . . while
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 01:35 AM by defendandprotect
Democrats were pulling back and not contesting race after race ---

and especially withdrawing their presence everywhere --- and people who go out and

talk about the party ---

Can you imagine that Speaker Tip O'Neill and Dick Gephardt decided that they wouldn't contest

Newt Gingrich after his first term .... guess why???

According to Rep. Patricia Schroder, they wanted Newt around because he supported salary increases f

for Congress!!!


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:50 PM
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26. And our nominee and our party are coming out fighting this year.
It is showing.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:51 PM
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27. Howard fucking rocks.
He just does.
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