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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 12:56 AM Original message |
DO NOT support Sen. Webb for VP |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. Obama will not pick another Senator. He will not pick a "national security" VP |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. The more I think about it the more sense Brian Schweitzer makes. |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Wow. I never even heard of the guy, but thanks to you I just read his bio on his website. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. I'm hoping for Jon Stewart |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 05:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
45. I agree. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 06:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
48. I know a couple of ass-kickers who are national security types. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. That was in 1979. Its time to get over it. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Yes that's pretty important point... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. as a gal who served from '75 - '79 |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
51. Watch this... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. he still sucks n/t |
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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Why get over it |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. You are holding him accountable too late. He's already changed his mind. |
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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Obviously, we're going to differ on this |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. have you never changed your mind? |
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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. I have |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Thanks for clarifying |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 05:57 AM Response to Reply #28 |
46. So now... |
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Electric Flag (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 02:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. So Senator Byrd is still secretly a Klan member, is that what you're saying? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 05:34 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. from a gay man's perspective he may as well be |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #38 |
69. I doubt the full conversion of someone who calls someone a "white ni**er" |
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Tunkamerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 02:43 AM Response to Reply #21 |
40. candy was my favorite food |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #21 |
54. So you believe Senator Byrd is a racist then? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
63. "Just like I dont believe someone can be a "reformed racist" neither can they be a reformed sexist." |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #21 |
66. So you dont believe |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #21 |
68. By those standards, Hillary is still a "Goldwater Girl" Republican ! |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 04:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
42. well, if that's your attitude, you might as well call Sen. Byrd a Klansman |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
3. You do know that that essay was written TWENTY NINE YEARS AGO, yes? |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
4. Those views are 30 years old. What are his current views? n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
6. Before you castigate him for something he said 30 years ago |
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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. It's the principle |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. You might want to test your beliefs against his actual behavior. |
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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. If someone says something, are they not responsible? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Then you are more or less stuck with your entrenched opinion, aren't you? |
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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. On this one, yes |
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Mind_your_head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. I hope Obama picks (not in any particular order)..... |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
11. I think it possible that Webb |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
12. He's got very little legislative experience and no executive experience |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. He has more than legislative experience...he has real life experience |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
56. Chimpy and the Dick had lots of both... |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
13. Well, if he hasn't changed that view over the last 29 years, it would be a real red flag |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
61. I'm wondering what he would have left out of the "sexual equality movement" |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
19. I haven't caught the Webb fever. He's an ex military brass Reaganite. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
24. Military Women Strongly Endorse Jim Webb |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
25. Wrote "Women Can't Fight" in '79; now OK with military women |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. furthermore, he was a Reagan republican at the time he said that |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
29. In 1987 Webb opened more operational positions for women in the military than any other Navy Sec... |
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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Quick, somebody get him a cookie! |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. And the best part is he will make up for this til the end of time. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
53. People do change their views, you know |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
32. You do know those were statements made when he was Secretary of the Navy |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
35. Are you sure that is Webb? |
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papapi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
36. This is ancient history child. His position has evolved since 1979. Do more homework. |
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Mind_your_head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
37. Who knows? |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
39. You don't need to worry about it. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 03:23 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Last week and for the last couple of months I've been big on Jim Webb...but that was until I saw him |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 05:52 AM Response to Original message |
44. It's a distortion of reality to say that he "espouses this gross position" |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
47. Webb will make a great VP. |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
49. Webb is a 1000% better than the last POS we had as a senator here in VA. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
50. So fight for women to be given front-line combat positions. |
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LucyParsons (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
52. I am a radical feminist, and, considering all his other positions, I am more than willing to |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
55. His statements 30 years ago are not a deal breaker for me. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
57. Am I the only feminist who wouldn't want to be on the front lines? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Obviously not. nt |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. IMO we feminists should make it our business to stop war forever |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
58. I would really prefer a very strong feminist as a VP |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
59. I agree with him about front lines |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
60. Webb is a terrible choice |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
62. I agree with your conclusion, but not with your reason |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
67. he's apologized for that, and has evolved beyond. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
70. Should we also reject every VP candidate who in 1979 opposed gay marriage? |
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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
71. My final thoughts |
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