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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:50 AM
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Bernie Sanders coming up on WJ now n/t
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Nictuku Donating Member (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:54 AM
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1. Not one mention
of the articles of Impeachment read on the House floor last night. Amazing. Not even C-Span listeners have brought it up.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:03 AM
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2. Frankly, I'm much more concerned with the economic inequities and
the economic disaster we're embroiled in than impeachment. I think what Bernie is fighting for right now is of greater importance than impeachment. As Bernie is repeatedly saying this morning, the middle class is collapsing, the working class is collapsing.
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Nictuku Donating Member (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:15 AM
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3. I'm more concerned about precident
If this administration has zero accountability, what can we expect with future administrations? We are a country where the Rule of Law is Supreme. At this late date, I don't expect for removal from office to actually occur, (after all, Impeachment is but the first step, there still would have to be a Senate Trial on the charges, overseen by Chief Justice Roberts).....

More importantly, the fact that these articles have been read into the record is paving the way for future criminal prosecution.

Why is the middle class collapsing? I think the emptying of the Treasury and increase of the national debt might have a lot to do with this, which is directly a result from this criminal administration.

No one in America is Above The Law. Not even President Cheney and his puppet Bush.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:21 AM
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4. Lunatic watch!!!!!!!!!!!
This is series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:22 AM
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5. nice that you have the luxury to be more concerned about precedent
than survivial. Impeachment can still be conducted after bush leaves office. Criminal prosecution is possible after bush leaves office. I have no problem with Dennis introducing articles for the record, but I don't want to see Congress enmeshed in impeachment proceedings at the expense of real people.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:05 AM
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11. Bernie Sanders was talking about the energy bill.
Why should he talk about Dennis Kucinich's articles of impeachment? That might make you feel good, but it's irrelevant to what's really going on.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:25 AM
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6. A caller from Delaware says, Bernie Sanders makes him want to throw up.
I guess those constipated plutocrats have to get their food waste out somehow.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:30 AM
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7. Breakfast With Bernie...
What a contrast to that asshat Mica...Bernie is always a pleasure to see/hear.

His discriptions of the market manipulation are spot on...and you still hear the wingnuts all but sticking to a party line they have been conditioned to parrot with little idea of how bad they're getting screwed. I doubt many of these asshats have Exxon-Mobil stocks or are rich enough to play the speculation game, but they sure want their oil.

I just got back from riding through farm country the other day...and saw a lot of flooded fields...adding to an already difficult and expensive growing season. This fall could be a very rough time for millions...I hope I'm wrong.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:39 AM
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8. He has not supported impeachment.
Did he mention it yet? How can the other liberals even ignore it?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:47 AM
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9. Cause He Knows It Won't Fly...
An impeachment in the House without a conviction in the Senate not just keeps this regime in power, but vindicates it. Those hellbent on impeachment keep the blinders on that the reality says this won't happen. Plus there's so much criminality in this regime we haven't discovered yet...hidden behind "executive privildge" and other tactics. Any indictment against someone in this regime will be quickly met with a pardon.

A question I have for those who think impeachment will change things...get the troops out of Iraq now or lower oil prices or help those suffering with credit problems or health problems or facing huge tuition increases this fall. Ya know, real life stuff. Let's pretend the impeachment wand happens and both booosh and cheney are gone tomorrow. Then what? Who takes over? What about the other criminals still in the government? And this doesn't even take into consideration the pounding Democrats will get from the corporate media...

Liberals aren't "ignoring" it...if anything I see some very diligent ones working on building up real, criminal cases against this regime. Some of us want real justice, not just a political show trial.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 04:35 PM
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16. It certainly won't if no one comes forward to do their duty.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:04 AM
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10. Non sequitur
:wtf:

He was on to talk about the energy bill, not impeachment.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:06 AM
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12. it is all about the election coming up.
that is what they think is their shining moment.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:08 AM
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13. No, for Bernie it's all about the millions and millions of people who are
struggling just to get by in this economy. That's always what it's been about for Bernie. And he's not even a dem and he hasn't endorsed.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:26 AM
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14. hasn't endorsed? He's offered to stump for Obama wherever he has needed
And it's the first time he's made such an offer to any presidential candidate.....
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 10:04 AM
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15. nothing against Bernie I trust his judgment but in this
the evidence for Impeachment is there, it depends what the House will do with it.
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