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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:21 AM
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How much does Roe really matter?
How much does Roe really matter?
Posted June 10, 2008 9:52 AM
The Swamp

by James Oliphant


WICHITA, Kan.--Troy Newman appears to be just about the happiest person who ever set foot in an abortion clinic.

"We're winning," Newman says excitedly. "We're winning the youth. We're winning the hearts and minds of the people."

Except for his prematurely gray hair, Newman, the head of Operation Rescue, perhaps the most aggressive anti-abortion group in the nation, seems boyish and eager.

"I just want to be the best pro-lifer I can be," he said.

The organization has just moved into its new offices in Wichita, a shuttered abortion clinic that Newman helped hassle out of business. "Nothing warms my heart more than a closed abortion clinic," he said. He keeps souvenirs in his office of some of the clinics he has claimed credit for helping shut down.

Newman has good reason to feel optimistic. Through the work of groups like his, the number of places where women can obtain abortions in the United States has shrunk by two-thirds since the early 1990s, to about 700. The Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive-rights think tank that has had a longtime connection to Planned Parenthood, estimates abortions are now unavailable in 87 percent of counties nationwide.

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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:24 AM
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1. These are the true one-issue voters.
They aren't smart enough to think about more than one issue at a time, so this makes voting really simple. No time wasted researching candidates when there's only one question.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:25 AM
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2. there's a full court press going on at universities to change opinions
I'm seeing more pro-life stuff at Univ. of Penn than pro-choice. I've started ripping off crap on bathroom doors and bulletin boards. I remember when really only pro-choice stuff was posted. What's going on? Penn's never been a conservative campus.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:27 AM
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3. That's downright scary. nt
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:31 AM
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6. This new generation
has never seen a time when abortion was illegal. I think most of us old folks remember pre Roe and most also know someone who went through the trauma of an unwanted pregnancy.

It's easy to be a cheerleader for something you've never really had to face the consequences of.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 07:57 PM
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9. what isn't explained
is the rationale behind banning abortion which get very scary... where women are losing their autonomy
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:28 AM
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4. He is a nasty piece of work.
I almost knocked him down once :). He is not a nice man.

So far he has not been able to run Tiller out but he won't stop trying.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:28 AM
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5. It might be nice to be a one-issue voter, but I've got a kid, and there's two wars on,
I can't afford my electric/gas bill, gas costs so much it's cheaper for me to stay home than work, my son's being screwed by NCLB every day, my husband's job is in peril...

and the thought of MORE conservatives on the SCOTUS scares me to death.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 10:01 AM
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7. Support for Roe v Wade is something whose importance'd get REAL obvious FAST if it gets overturned!
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 01:40 PM
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8. what is even more important than Roe is the legal foundation for women's rights
is being eroded. As they attack Roe, the RW erode a woman's right to self determination. It is much more than just control of our bodies. It is control of our ability to live as independent human beings that is at stake. Witness Roberts' upholding "ask your husband for permission" in abortion. Or that family members have the right to stop an abortion. What they are getting at is our right to live independently without asking our husbands' or family members' permission.
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