Hawaii statehood: Aug. 21st, 1959. Obama birthday: Aug. 4th, 1961

[krispos42]

Jus soli, freeper assholes. Eat it up and swallow it. Obama was born in a US state, not a US territory or US posession or a US embassy or a US military base or anything else. He's as much a natural-born American as I am. Or for that matter, Dubya is, because both him and I were born in Connecticut.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

Now, freeper assholes, what state was John McCain born it?

<crickets>


Um, yeah, thought so.


How about a piece of advice?

[AspenRose]

1. Facts? They don't need no stinkin' FACTS

If you repeat a lie often enough, some people will believe it....

I think they know better, they just don't care.

[lolly]

30. Doesn't even matter

He has to have been born in the U.S.--doesn't matter if it's a state yet or not. Just on U.S. territory.

I'm guessing several U.S. presidents in the 19th-early 20th century were born in territories rather than states.

So, no need to produce birth certificates or check dates. Geez, they are grasping at straws.

Oh--on edit. I don't have any info on the previous statement, but the first half-dozen or so U.S. presidents were, of course, NOT born in any state, since the United States didn't exist when they were born.

Guess that makes George Washington and his immediate successors terrorists, or something.

[ProfessorGAC]

34. Several US Presdients in The Early 18th Century. . .

. . .were born in British territory! Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams, Jackson! So, this thing about being "not born" in the U.S. is about the dumbest argument there can be.
The Professor

[saracat]

2. No one doubts Obama was born in HI but why won't his campaign release

his birth certificate?. Why doesn't the campaign just release it and have done with it? I am sure he had to produce it at some point to confirm citizenship as part of his eleigability to run for Prez. He wouldn't have gotten this far withpout some prppf. The allegation is silly so why not release his bith certificate? He had to have one for his passport!

[mikelgb]

3. prolly the middle name propaganda

or maybe he has lost it

[Doityourself]

11. Why does he have to..if he wasn't born in the US he couldn't run for president..

[polmaven]

20. Only to Shut Them Up

so we can actually focus on other things....Important things.....Continuing to refuse to release it is only going to allow the MORANS to "legitimize" their crap. I agree he shouldn't have to, but maybe he should do it anyway and pull their legs out from under them and shut them the hell up!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

12. Why don't you post your home address?

What are you trying to hide?

[Doityourself]

17. Lmao...

[saracat]

18. What does that have to do with anything? How would his birth certificate hurt him?

He obviously proved his citizenships to get a passport and to run for office. Wouldn't just producing it shut people up? Jeez. It is the witholding of it that causes people to jap. There are online copies of former presidents birth certificates. I have seen some of them.

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[saracat]

23. Why are you attacking me? I haven't said anything about either the Presumptive nominee or you?

I guess I should use ignore.

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[saracat]

26. Juvenile as ever. Bye.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. You think it's juvenile too?

So why engage in it?

[TexasObserver]

33. Something you might think about.

Why do you even bother talking to her? She hates Obama, she's not going to vote for him, and she's going to piss and moan in every post.

Read her only for entertainment value. If you try to argue with her, she'll complain nonstop to the mods about you. For reasons we will never know, she's allowed to continue what she's been doing for months - slamming our guy. Why waste your time trying to reason with her? It can't be done, and you know this already.

[TexasObserver]

19. Still dogging on Obama, I see.

We have a nominee, and you just can't stop wailing about him, can you?

[lolly]

31. It's demeaning

"You must show us your papers, Mr. Obama"

[Evergreen Emerald]

32. It reminds me of the calls for Clinton to release certain records.

politically motivated: calls for her tax returns, library funding (as if that is relevant to anything) and the donors to the non-profit organization.

These calls for the birth certificate are akin to those calls. Tricks by opponents to get distortions out there calling into question their fitness for the job.

And of course the answer to the idea that he will not release the requested information has always been: he would release it if he had nothing to hide. It would certainly stop the questions.

[hedgehog]

4. Birth certificate? Who cares about his birth certificate? I want to see

his certificate from passing his Tadpole swimming class!

[madokie]

13. The heck with that I want to see his gang tatoo

jus'kid'n ;-)

[pepperbear]

5. uhm, er, uh...mccain was born in panama. n/t

http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542249

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain

[KansDem]

6. KansDem's birthplace and date: Honolulu, (Territory of ) Hawaii, 1953.

I'm just as "American" as any f**king freeper sitting in the basement of his mother's house.

[krispos42]

7. Only a territory?

When you came to Kansas, did you have to convert your Hawaiian money to Ahmurkin money?


:crazy:

:-)

[goodhue]

8. indeed

what absolutely silliness

[krispos42]

9. Well, you know that facts have a well-known liberal bias

:crazy:

Just like all the controversy about Muslim Obama's Christian pastor...

:crazy: :crazy:

[Lex]

15. yes, I've noticed that too

nt

[WolverineDG]

10. Didn't stop Barry Goldwater from running

& he was born where? And that territory became a state when?

dg

[krispos42]

16. Hmph.

Didn't know that about ol' Goldwater.

Of course, his territory of birth became a state, as did KansDem's upthread. But Panama is not, to my current knowledge, a US state! :-)

Bet the freepers are grinding their teeth over this one!

<edit: typos>

[WolverineDG]

29. If he was born on base

then that might be considered US soil. :shrug:

on edit: Yup, he was born on base.

dg

[azmouse]

14. I hate to mention a Rep here but...

Barry Goldwater, who ran for President in 1964, was born in the Arizona Territory in 1909.
AZ didn't become a state until 1912.

[EFerrari]

24. Don't confuse the little freeps with facts. Their hind brain can't take it. n/t

[azmouse]

27. It just might cause their heads to explode....

I'd pay to see that! :evilgrin:

[rucky]

22. K & R for the Artwork!

Anybody know when Panama became a Banana Republic?

[krispos42]

35. Kick to complement kpete's post of Barack's birth certificate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6351357