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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:19 PM
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So I decided to see what Dennis Kucinich's congressional record was all about
missed 150 votes (9.6%) during the current Congress.

voted with a majority of his Democratic colleagues only 90.5% of the time

Voted NO on the Congressional Budget Resolution

Voted NO Providing for Consideration of the Senate Amendment to H.R. 2642, Military Construction and Veterans Affairs and Related Agencies Appropriations Act


http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/k000336/votes/

He's sponsored 13 bills this term (Ranks 242 of 435) and had zero passed.

H.Res.799 Impeaching Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States, of high crimes and misdemeanors. Introduced Nov 06, 2007

His OpenCongress rating is 69%

http://www.opencongress.org/people/show/400227_dennis_kucinich


Just for the records here on DU.




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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:23 PM
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1. So, maybe he is right and the rest are wrong.
What is the average number of votes missed?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:27 PM
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3. Here ya go
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 03:42 PM
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31. How many votes did Hillary Clinton & Barack Obama miss while out campaigning?
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 03:42 PM by Ghost in the Machine
:shrug:

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 04:13 PM
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34. what was the percentage missed by other congressional presidential candidates?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:24 PM
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2. The guy has a lifetime of anti-choice votes until he decided he wanted to run for president
and realized that being anti-choice wouldn't get you far so had the 'awakening' so to speak. This is the main reason I have never jumped on the Kucinich bandwagon. Don't get me wrong - I like the guy and he has many good quality but something still bugs me about him.

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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:37 PM
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14. Yup
This is one of my primary beefs, too. I also hate the fact that people here are soliciting $$ to his Congressional campaign while we are knee-deep in a General Election fight of our lives. Let his constituents support him. The rest of us need to focus on the big picture.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:38 PM
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16. "I do accept, and I do welcome, that he believes the right to choose is fundamental." NARAL Pres.!
Ohio Presidential Hopeful Pivots Over to Pro-Choice Camp
Ex-abortion foe Kucinich defends move

by Marc Sandalow

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0223-05.htm

"Congressman Kucinich has been at work thinking about a lot of these issues,

and his votes reflect a thoughtful journey," said NARAL President Kate Michelman.

"I do accept, and I do welcome, that he believes the right to choose is fundamental."


Kucinich said he hopes the party faithful will accept that his current support for abortion rights is heartfelt. Though the announcement coincided with his entry into the presidential contest, Kucinich insists the evolution began long before.

"This isn't something that I arrived at overnight," said Kucinich, who is methodical in his approach to every issue, from war in Iraq to his opposition to genetically modified foods.

"I don't believe in abortions, few do," he said. "I do, however, believe in choice."

More...


Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/Dennis_Kucinich_Abortion.htm

Kucinich scores 100% by NARAL on pro-choice voting record


For over thirty years, NARAL Pro-Choice America has been the political arm of the pro-choice movement and a strong advocate of reproductive freedom and choice. NARAL Pro-Choice America's mission is to protect and preserve the right to choose while promoting policies and programs that improve women's health and make abortion less necessary. NARAL Pro-Choice America works to educate Americans and officeholders about reproductive rights and health issues and elect pro-choice candidates at all levels of government. The NARAL ratings are based on the votes the organization considered most important; the numbers reflect the percentage of time the representative voted the organization's preferred position.

Get over it!

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:59 PM
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23. Oh I'm sorry, my opinion means nothing?
Look, NARAL is a great organization and will take all the converts we can get. But that still doesn't mean I can't hold the guy suspect when it comes to choice. But since he's just a US Representative that has little impact when it comes to our Supreme Court it bothers me alot less than you think.

So why don't YOU get over it!
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 03:27 PM
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27. You should get your timeline straight. He stopped voting against Choice in early 2002
And didn't announce for prez until spring 2003.

But I suppose if you want to dislike someone, any excuse will do.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 03:53 PM
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32. Who said I didn't like the guy?
I'm just very protective of my right to choose and as a US Representative he has very little impact either positive or negative in that aspect.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:29 PM
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4. What is your point? he disagreed with the majority Democrats on 9.5% of the votes?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:31 PM
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8. And I'd LOVE to see a list of the 9.5% votes...
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 02:32 PM by Junkdrawer
Betcha I wouldn't vote for those bills either.

Betcha the majority of DUers would applaud Dennis' votes.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:35 PM
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10. He MISSED those votes, didn't vote no, should I use larger text?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:36 PM
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12. We're referring to the second item in your rant, or do I need to use smaller words?
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 02:37 PM by Junkdrawer
Or maybe you didn't realize that 100 - 90.5 = 9.5

:shrug:
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:37 PM
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15. Rant?
Awwww, you have a problem with my listing his congressional record? and rant, excuse me you really are upset.


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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 04:16 PM
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36. Probably for good reason
Think back and recall some of the abysmal Dem votes in the last Congress when Pelosi & Reid were busy protecting Bush & Cheney.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:30 PM
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5. And yet he's been re-elected five times
...and is the only one in the House with the balls to stand up for this country over and over again.

Against the majority who think murderers and war criminals shouldn't be charged if there's any risk it might hurt their precious election chances.

Yeah, you're right. Those are the kind of people I want running the country: the ones who put themselves above the law.

Oh, wait...
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:31 PM
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7. So you don't think Hillary or Obama have the 'balls' to stand up to 'them'?
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:35 PM
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11. Obama has said he won't pursue prosecution of Bush** or Cheney
End of story.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:38 PM
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17. That's right, end of story
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 03:24 PM
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25. From your anti-Kucinich stance one would think you supported his
Republican opponent. Which would be contrary to DU rules, but I'm sure you knew that.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 05:10 PM
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:04 PM
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44. No, I don't.
Because they didn't.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:30 PM
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6. Yeah! Kill the messenger!
Oh, wait. This is DU, not free republic.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:34 PM
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9. so, he's a bad guy? is that your point? i applaud his actions last night.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:36 PM
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13. Why are you assuming that? Another nice leading question.
What is wrong with posting his record? I think it's appropriate.



Perspective that's the ticket.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:52 PM
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18. post his whole record then....that is perspective...to pick and choose is your perspective
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:53 PM
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20. Read it yourself at the link
we can't post his ENTIRE record, god, vent somewhere, I'm sorry I don't believe Kookoo belongs on a pedestal.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 03:04 PM
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24. kookoo?
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 03:11 PM by spanone
no pedestal, just a thank you for speaking truth to power
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 03:37 PM
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30. Placing a man on a pedestal for no reason
Placing a man on a pedestal for no reason seems just as unthinking as denigrating him for no reason.

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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 03:36 PM
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29. I think many people are assuming that because
I think many people are assuming that because in addition to posting his record, you've been acting quite defensively re: DK on quite a few posts today. That, in addition to you have little if nothing positive to say about him, speaks so much more than this one post...

So, yeah... perspective grounded in non-fiction backed up with a quick post history is the ticket too...
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:33 PM
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40. Because those that worship at the DK alter will not abide by dissenting opinions
it's that simple. He's pissing up a pole. Pelosi, Reid AND Obama and Clinton will not support his actions, and as I stated previously, putting it into the Congressional record is a futile attempt to garner attention without getting anything done.

But, everyone is entitled to their opinions, I just don't give a shit if people don't like mine, because most of them are hypocrites on other issues.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:52 PM
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19. And Rep. John Q. Adams was called feeble minded
and ridiculed as he presented petitions about slavery before Congress again and again for YEARS until finally Congress allowed them--and the discussion of slavery-- to be presented on the House floor. This "crazy man" is known to history as "Old Man Eloquent" and his stand for the First Amendment right to petition, against the odds, is looked upon as a shining light amidst the darkness of the times. Adams died literally in the halls of Congress, because, as one man said, "Where else could God find him except at the post of duty?"

Kucinich, in my mind, has the same tenacious character as John Quincy Adams. Kucinich has been consistent with his votes on the wars and on the assaults to our civil liberties and Constitution. Like Adams, he has had to endure ridicule, but we are now starting to see Americans realizing that his positions on these matters were the correct ones.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:54 PM
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21. Sorry, I don't worship man. Or dennis
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 03:27 PM
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26. I am hard pressed to understand how posting an historical analogy
is "worshipping" anyone. I spoke of one stand Adams took in his lifetime and compared it to this one stand Kucinich is taking. Saying that history may judge Kucinich's actions different than his contemporaries is not worshiping.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:54 PM
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41. consistent, tenacious, fearless...
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 06:54 PM by G_j
qualities that make one dangerous,
it becomes a necessity to ridicule him..
nothing new
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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:56 PM
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22. Interesting to see that you don't mention
that 17 of his co-sponsored bills have passed, rating him 36th in the Congress (which should put as a lie that Dennis doesn't work well with others). http://www.opencongress.org/people/show/400227_dennis_kucinich

Just for the records here on DU!

Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://kucinich.us
http://integritynow.org
For those of us on the Left, Dennis our Congressman!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 05:13 PM
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38. Read the link or is that too difficult?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 03:33 PM
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28. Ya Know...This Is Getting Brutal
:rofl:

There are days I wish that this was the only issue of importance.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 04:03 PM
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33. It is always good to check on people's congressional records.
Always good to keep an eye on our representatives and be an educated citizen.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 04:14 PM
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35. Throwing Dennis under the bus now?
Because he supports impeachment and Obama doesn't?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 05:15 PM
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39. Throwing those of us who don't worship at his alter under the bus?
The things people say when you offer information, and how they assume such garbage.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:03 PM
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43. I'll bet he can spell "altar," though.
I don't worship any politician. Not DK, and not Barack Obama, either.

I do recognize when someone does something right, something that is principled and good for the nation, and I don't mind saying so.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:59 PM
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42. .
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:20 PM
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45. funny how you missed his IWR vote, Patriot Act vote, Bankruptcy bill vote
What the fuck dude?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 07:24 PM
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46. Dennis votes on principal. If there is a bill that the Dems have settled on, he will vote against it
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 07:25 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
if it hasn't gone far enough or too far.

I am disturbed that you have the need to tear Dennis apart here, and guess what, you aren't going to convince anyone, one way or the other. We all have our own feelings/opinions about him and most are savvy to know why he has voted the way he has.
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