Regardless of Whether It Succeeds or Not, Do You Believe Bush Deserves to Be Impeached?

[Uncle Joe]

Edit for P.S. If you vote No, please explain why he doesn't deserve it.

[demnan]

1. Not just yes

but Hell Yes!

[sazemisery]

2. Ditto. n/t

[yellowdogintexas]

45. and another ditto here. nt

[rebel with a cause]

50. If I wasn't anti violence and taking the law into your own hands

I would say he deserves much worse.

By the way, while on that subject I grew up in a town that had the last hanging in Illinois. The jail is now a musuem and there are many stories told about that day. My father told me that families brought their children to see the hanging and also picnic lunchs to enjoy while watching. He personally refused to watch it, or take part in the activities, although he had to be in town that day on business.

[LakeSamish706]

3. And it should have happened long before now IMO. n/t

[Arger68]

4. Bear....woods... so forth, so on.

[Hydra]

5. Hell Ya!

If we don't, we will have stated that the law is of no importance.

[Indenturedebtor]

22. Exactly

If we let them get away with all of these crimes you might as well tear the Constitution up, original copy and all.

It will be of more use as a reconstituted egg carton.

[NRaleighLiberal]

6. Easiest question I've answered in years.....NT

[rucky]

7. At the very least.

[bryant69]

Yes - he does.

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[jobycom]

8. If he is removed one hour before the next president is sworn in, they should do it.

He should have been impeached already, and he should still be impeached. That is the purest example of true justice--suffering the consequences for your action--I can think of.

But, I'm not big on symbolic gestures, and I fully understand why it hasn't happened. I don't even think less of Congress for not doing it, though it disappoints me. I'm not excited by Kucinich's gesture because I've seen it all before (Henry B Gonzales) and expect it will go nowhere.

Still, I salute him for trying, and encourage him to try harder, and if he's ever in Austin and needs a pint, I'll gladly buy it for him. :toast:

[Swamp Rat]

9. Good poll

:applause:

[ObamaKerryDem]

20. Without a doubt!

^^

That banner says it ALL.

[lazyriver]

10. Yes, for starters.

[Lugnut]

11. Absofrickenlutely.

There are at least 35 reasons why he deserves impeachment.

[MrCoffee]

12. Absolutely

[Cleita]

13. DU a hundred percent so far, but I saw a poll

this morning within the USA Today website that shows 60% Americans at large agree with it and 40% don't. So it seems that the majority of Americans want Bush impeached.

[VP505]

14. The only question about impeaching

Booo$h/Cheney is WHEN?

[indepat]

15. Yes, hell yes, a million time yes for his pissing on our Constitution and making a mockery

out of the land of the free and making it the home of yellow-livered cowards shaking in their boots at his fear mongering and for launching a war of aggression eos. :D

[unblock]

16. impeachment DOESN'T BEGIN to approach what he "deserves"

but i answered "yes" anyway....

[unblock]

17. and just to be clear, impeachment is about what the country deserves, not what shrub deserves

and we deserve a president who respects the constitution, for starters.
that means impeaching BOTH of 'em.

[SammyWinstonJack]

48. !

:thumbsup:

[grace0418]

18. Exactly. My thoughts EXACTLY.

Impeachment is step one of many. None of them good for him.

[ComtesseDeSpair]

19. Not Just Impeached...

I won't be happy until George W. Bush is behind bars for the rest of his pathetic little life for his crimes. And all of his cronies too.

[NewJeffCT]

24. Great first post - welcome to DU

Unfortunately, I think we're going to be in for more disappointment.

[Beausoleil]

21. The Constitution is pretty clear on that

considering the Treason, Bribery and other high Crimes and Misdemeanors committed.

[datadiva]

23. Absolutely

Right before he goes to trial at the Hague

[Beaverhausen]

25. He and Cheney deserve a lot more than simple impeachment

that should be just the start of it. But it looks like pardons will be granted next January. :mad:

[bunny planet]

26. Does a bear shit in the woods??

Of course he deserves to be impeached, either in office or out of office. He is a criminal period.

[randr]

27. Voted no on impeachment

I want the SOB brought up on criminal charges after he leaves office.
Impeachment is far too lenient.

[Uncle Joe]

29. Impeachment doesn't prevent him from being brought up on criminal charges

after he's thrown out of office. Impeachment followed by conviction is just the process of throwing him out of office.

[Raster]

31. Thank you. And I can definitely see the logic in that.

I personally would love to see these bastards charged and convicted of EVERY POSSIBLE CRIME.

[uppityperson]

39. 1 doesn't preclude the other.

[Raster]

28. We have two no votes. Would either of the "NO" votes care to explain?

cue crickets chirping...

[Rambis]

30. He deserves a fair trial

for treason!

[madrchsod]

32. 3 people think he does`t?

[Uncle Joe]

33. I believe one of them may have been confused in to believing

impeachment meant there could be no prosecution after Bush is thrown out of office.

[yella_dawg]

34. At the moment: 114 yes to 3 no votes.

You'd expect more freeper trolls around today. Maybe Rush hasn't mentioned the impeachment motion.

[Beausoleil]

35. For the record

Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution states, in part:

Judgment in Cases of Impeachments shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust, or Profit under the United States, but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment, and Punishmnet, according to Law.

Impeachment by no means indicates that the convicted is off the hook after being thrown out of office.

[Sunnyshine]

36. K&R- No doubt about it. Bush and Cheney should be impeached and hauled off immediately.n/t

We must investigate all his cronies that enabled these crimes to take place, along with every single CEO at the helm of the appointed corporations that profited excessively from the wars and no bid contracts. US Tax payers are being grossly fleeced and overlooked, our armed forces misused and subverted, while citizens of Iraq continue to be egregiously violated by Bush and his villains of empire.

This nation is being economically manipulated and our future is being squandered BY our highest serving elected leaders! It is hanging out there obvious to see and makes it being ignored even worse. Jesus, what more can we say or do to make this an urgent matter of national security?

Everyone pays so much attention to the pretty people on stage, dancing or singing. MSM uses entertainment, natural disasters, and political drama as a bellwether for ratings. As usual, the press is failing to do it's job again. Pathetic as hell!

*edited to remove extra words.

[klyon]

37. I definitely think he deserves to be impeached

but the 35 charges seem like they could be modified some what. Iraq is really one thing with many sub-points and some of the other, well I'm not sure are impeachable offenses. We should concentrate on the biggies like the lying us into an illegal war(which has led to the deaths of innocent Iraqis and some of our brave troops), treason for outing an agent and the network, illegal spying on Americans, and torture including false imprisonment which in some cases led to death (more murder). These are all serious crimes and should be punishable by the death penalty not just impeachment. But impeachment would be a good place to start our constitution demands it.

[Richardo]

38. "deserve it?" Yes. But a pointless, divisive and politically disastrous exercise.

We have soldiers and Marines dying, $4 gasoline, food prices through the roof, people losing their homes, floods in the Midwest, what else am I missing? Can these be laid at the feet of George Bush? Sure. Is he guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors? Almost certainly.

BUT: Americans want Congress to find, or at least propose solutions to these problems, not engage in a partisan finger-pointing exercise designed to remove the architects of these disasters, who will be gone in seven months anyway. And there will never, NEVER in a million years be 67 votes in the Senate to convict.

It would completely undermine Obama's campaign of change. The perception would be 'business as usual, it's an election year, what else do you expect?'

When the smoke clears, the Dems would have proved that they have no policy ideas on how to get the country on the right track, and President McCain waltzes in by default, you can kiss the Congressional majorities goodbye, and it's four more years of the same. Or worse.

Impeachment: Pointless, divisive and disastrous. Post-term investigations, indictments and trials are the best hope for accountability.

[kestrel91316]

40. Sorry. We all know damned well Bush will pre-emptively pardon

(a la Reagan) everyone he's ever known before he leaves. Hell, 4 hours before the inauguration I bet he pardons Cheney, resigns, has Cheney sworn in, and then Cheney pardons him.

[Richardo]

41. LOL - I can see them doing that

Still doesn't make impeachment a good idea.

[Uncle Joe]

62. I can't imagine McCain defending Bush/Cheney while waltzing in by default.

McCain is trying to separate him self from the Cheney/Bush Administration, even though he supports the same disastrous policies, he can't have it both ways.

This isn't partisan finger waving, this is constitutional and if Cheney/Bush haven't earned impeachment, no administration ever will.

Congress can't find or propose solutions to these problems while the architects of these disasters are in power and if you let them skate as if nothing happened, McCain or some future administration stand a much better chance of continuing or repeating them. The corporate media will continue to call McCain a Maverick and he stands a better chance of fooling the people, when in fact the difference in his polices from their's is as Marlboro compared to Marlboro Light.

How does post term investigations, or indictments have any moral authority when the Congress refused to act while it was happening? Will that not be divisive as well and then undermine a potential Obama Administration, if Obama can come to power after the Cheney/Bush administration have been given a free pass by a Democratic controlled Congress?

I agree in one respect it will be divisive, but if you don't divide what you believe in from what's happened and those who have perpetrated it, then you're no different to the people at large, politicians would be all the same. All they care about is obtaining power and are afraid to take a stand when a stand desperately needs to be taken. This is then followed by disillusionment by the people of government and the cycle repeats it self with the caveat that it will most likely be far worse next time.

I believe if Impeachment is pursued without good moral authority based on the Constitution, then it can backfire, but as your first paragraph states of which I agree with and much more, that's not the case.

[lonestarnot]

42. Three fucking trolls.

[BreweryYardRat]

43. Impeached, and then tried for war crimes at the Hague.

Other members of his administration we ought to keep here, charge with treason, and when found guilty, hang them.

[BurtWorm]

44. Yes, of course he deserves to be impeached.

He will not be, though. So now what do we do?

[GoneOffShore]

46. K&R

[bananas]

47. Yes. nt

[DesertRat]

49. Hell Yes! And Cheney too!

[JackRiddler]

51. To quote a good movie: "Deserves has nothing to do with it"

It's a fundamental question of justice and preserving a republic and the rule of law.

[pacalo]

52. A big KICK...

I would have missed this poll if it hadn't been pointed out on Hydra's thread.

It's way too late to put a bandaid on the boil on the butt of humanity; it's time for surgery.

[barbtries]

53. i was a "yes:" then

and i'm a "yes" now. it feels like i've always been a "yes" and wondering how it can be that it hasn't happened. no president and no vice president have ever earned impeachment the way this crew has. not to mention indictment, prosecution, imprisonment for life.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

54. Of course. HOWEVER,...he and his administration DESERVE TO BE PROSECUTED AND,...

,...CONVICTED AND IMPRISONED FOR COMMITTING MASS FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND WAR CRIMES AGAINST IRAQI CITIZENS,...among other crimes.

Every member and constituent that participated and profitted off that fraud DESERVE TO LOSE EVERYTHING they have!!!

[weezy2736]

55. Yes, but I don't think he should be impeached.

With only a few months left, I don't want Cheney to be in charge, nor do I want to be accused of political theatre.

[Uncle Joe]

61. I believe Cheney should be impeached as well and I want to see McCain defend Bush

while trying to run away from him.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

56. Vote #221

Hell yes.

[Auntie Bush]

57. Actually he needs to be keel hauled, drawn and quartered very slowly.

We should be able to accomplish that before January.

Damn that bush*...he brings out the violence in me.

[pleah]

58. K&R for IMPEACHMENT!

[greyghost]

59. Does a bear shit in the woods?

[progressoid]

60. Would have been nice about three years ago.