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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 10:02 PM
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Cheney
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 10:23 PM by kpete
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Pentagon civilian and military opposition to such a strategic attack on Iran had become well-known during 2007. But this is the first evidence from an insider that Cheney's proposal was perceived as a ploy to provoke Iranian retaliation that could used to justify a strategic attack on Iran.

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It appeared in early 2007, therefore, that a strike at Iran's nuclear programme and military power had been blocked by opposition from the Pentagon. Cheney's proposal for an attack on IRGC bases in June 2007, tied to the alleged Iranian role in providing both weapons -- especially the highly lethal explosively formed projectiles (EFPs) -- and training to Shiite militias appears to have been a strategy for getting around the firm resistance of military leaders to such an unprovoked attack.

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As IPS reported earlier this week, Cheney had already used Gen. David Petraeus' takeover as the top commander of U.S. forces in Iraq in early February 2007 to do an end run about the Washington national security bureaucracy to establish the propaganda line that Iran was manufacturing EFPs and shipping them to the Mahdi Army militiamen.

At that point, Adm. Fallon was in a position to deter any effort to go around DoD and military opposition to such a strike because he controlled all military access to the region as a whole. But Fallon's forced resignation in March and the subsequent promotion of Petraeus to become CENTCOM chief later this year gives Cheney a possible option to ignore the position of his opponents in Washington once more in the final months of the administration.

more at:
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=42696
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 10:10 PM
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1. why did Cheney become so powerful?
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 10:10 PM
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2. Darth Invader (a.k.a. cheyousself) really wants HIS oil.
And he's gonna get it (at the expense of how many more U.S. & M.E. lives?

But his impeachment is off the table... uhhhh... under the rug... :grr:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 10:43 PM
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3. Impeach NOW! Before It is Too Late!


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 10:52 PM
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 10:57 PM
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5. Adios
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 10:57 PM by Swamp Rat
:hi:


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 10:58 PM
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6. How did that get in here?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:02 PM
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7. Lovely graphic
make me feel nostalgic :hi:

Yeah a troll just wandered in here. He already used "Sick Willie" in an other thread. :dunce:
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:07 PM
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9. check the profile, while it's still here.
It's a "she" apparently. Oh, and she "loves being a democrat".
:rofl:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:12 PM
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11. Yes, and I read its praise of Saddam McCain in another thread
:dunce:



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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:31 PM
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15. Pizza, did anybody order any Pizza?
I've got granite with all them fixings

:-)
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:11 PM
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10. They're getting creative with usernames
But unfortunately, that's where the cleverness ends.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:13 PM
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12. It stopped posting a few minutes.
Gettin' nervous it might get the granite cookie before getting to post it's first thread.

Let's see if the mods allow it. :popcorn:


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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:50 PM
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17. Aw, I wanna play with it
Please? I promise I won't hurt it... much.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:16 AM
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26. don't touch it, it looks infected!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:02 PM
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8. hahaha
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:29 PM
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14. Google DD-4, then go see a recruiter
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:06 AM
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20. Are you still here sweety?
Go take another Valium and wash it down with some more whiskey. No matter how much hate you dispense, you are just going to have to deal with having a capable man in the Whitehouse come Jan. 20, 2009.
Nighty night sweetheart.:*
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:07 AM
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21. that's funy, i'd rather you go hunting with Cheney as well.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:11 AM
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23. Here's your sign
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:22 PM
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13. What is it with these Capitalist pigs?
Isn't their God, Levi Strauss, or someone who preached it's okay to lie to the 'little people' because they are too stupid to know what's good for them anyway. Socialism is sounding better by the minute. These 'Big' people are becoming more deranged with power by the minute. I think Chaney has some kind of infarc dementia that has melted his last holds on reality.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 11:32 PM
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16. Leo Strauss, and he was no capitalist
these guys aren't either.

Somewhere in his grave Adam Smith is doing flips in his grave
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:05 AM
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19. Oh, yeah, Adam Smith
that might have been who I was thinking of. I'm no economist, if you hadn't noticed. I did get that part right about the philosophy being it's alright to lie to the public because they are not capable of understanding that the rich need to get richer. Didn't I? Heck, maybe they don't even need an economic philosophy to follow, they are just screwing us because they can. ENRON was the dress rehearsal.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:14 AM
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25. Well good ol Leo wasn't an economist either
he is much more closely allied to Aristotelian though, with a nice heaping of Machiavelli

Lie to them for their own good is just scratching the surface

It is important to understand where they come from, so we can smoke them out... oh and the American Enterprise Institute is FULL of them


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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:34 AM
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27. That place must be a piece of work
Those 'think tanks' seem like a dangerous conspiracy of rich trouble makers to me. I wish they were doing something illegal and they could be brought down. Too bad they don't have an opposing entity that could expose them for sitting around trying to bring down the government or something. I think these type of plotters were behind the, Monica Lewinsky, fiasco.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:05 AM
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18. Asshole
:blush:

Oops, I thought this was a 'Word Association' thread...

:blush:

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:09 AM
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22. DUzy!
:rofl:
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:13 AM
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24. !!!
:hi:

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