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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:09 AM
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New Government Study- Pot is Bad for you - (subjects smoked 350 joints a week)
Marijuana may up heart attack, stroke risk

via Reuters

Heavy marijuana use can boost blood levels of a particular protein, perhaps raising a person’s risk of a heart attack or stroke, U.S. government researchers said on Tuesday. …The marijuana users in the study averaged smoking 78 to 350 marijuana cigarettes per week.(that's 50 joints a day)

The study did not look at whether the heavy marijuana users actually had heart disease.

So here we go again. Three-hundred and fifty joints per week?! Who are these people? And what’s with the caveat at the end of the story? If the purpose of the study is to assess whether there might be a link between ridiculously heavy pot use and heart disease, then why not, you know, look to see whether the subjects actually suffered from heart disease? (Likely answer: Aside from the abnormal protein level, the patients were probably otherwise healthy.)


http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/87677

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSN1231013620080513
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:14 AM
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1. Heart attack plus expensive
Where in god's name do these people get enough money to pay to smoke 350 joints a week?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 02:19 PM
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24. I guess if you're pResident you can charge it to the taxpayers...
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 02:28 PM by Hubert Flottz
No wonder George seems so danged confused.

Edit...munchies???...I'm guessing that where the heart attack/stroke thing comes in, is after they smoked fifty thin ones a day, all those tons of potato chips and dip, twinkies and buckets of chicken AD(after each dubie)plugged up every known blood vessel in their bodies.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:14 AM
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2. Light weights!
Seriously though, I've known some crazy ass stoners in my time, but none who have come anywhere near smoking 50 joints a day. Say that these joints are about a half gram a piece (conservative estimate), that means that these guys would go through about an OUNCE PER DAY! Even if it's really shitty schwag, that means that they're spending $60 per day or $420 (hehehehe) per week! I'd imagine for the bulk of these people, that's ALL of their expendable income, plus a good deal more. I just don't get studies like this.
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:17 AM
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6. OMG
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 09:18 AM by nykym
thats 2.08 joints an hour!!!!!!
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:21 AM
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10. The most I ever did is prolly 1 joint every 2.08 hours. n/t
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:16 AM
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3. 4 joints an hour is ludicrous
assuming you're awake for 16 hours a day, and smoke from the moment you wake up to the point of crashing


Morons! Everything in moderation. Any sort of intake so far beyond the norm will do damage. How about a water drinking study, where everyone has to drink 50 gallons of water a day? We'll see how long that lasts.

New study suggests water can be fatal.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:21 AM
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11. water CAN be fatal...remeber those disc jockeys who killed that woman...?
during a radio contest to win a wii...?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:22 AM
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13. that was the point
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:16 AM
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4. Epedemiological studies of Rastas in Jamaica have shown
That if anything they are slightly _healthier_ than their non pot smoking peers..

Rastas are probably the heaviest pot smokers around, if it was going to hurt anyone it would be them.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:19 AM
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8. Don't take bets that the study included Rastas. n/t
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:16 AM
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5. the higher levels of what particular protein, and
couldn't that be the result of all the munchies?

50 joints a day is like more than two per hour, even without sleep! The subjects wouldn't have time to do anything else but smoke don't you think?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:18 AM
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7. No f@cking way. Nobody could smoke 50 joints a day. And, even
at the low end, the average recreational and therapeutic pot smoker doesn't consume 11 joints per day.

Just more anti-user bullshit.
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:20 AM
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9. New Government Study: broccoli is bad for you.
Subjects has 16 heads of broccoli inserted into their anuses each day, and the vegetable appears to have had adverse effects on the health and mood of the study subjects.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:22 AM
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12. Well, this is just common sense
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 09:23 AM by TlalocW
350 joints a week = major munchies. You have any idea how many Ho-Hos and bags of Doritos these test subjects are wolfing down? of course their risk for heart attacks and strokes are up! :)

TlalocW
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:22 AM
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14. so..
ditch weed kills?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:23 AM
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15. i smoke ZERO joints per day- but i smoke about an ounce per week.
bongs are the way to go.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:25 AM
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16. Fifty joints a day?
The stuff must've been cut 50:1 with parsley! That's the equivalent of two and a half packs of cigarettes a day, impossible for anyone, no matter how heavy the user, to smoke in a day. You'd be asleep after the first five and sleep too soundly to wake up and smoke the other forty five.

Either that, or they're counting a blunt passed around a crowd as a pack equivalent.

The increased C reactive protein doesn't mean anything by itself except that an inflammatory process is going on somewhere in the body.

As always, we have to watch the weasel words carefully. In the Reuters article, it's "MAY."


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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:26 AM
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17. Well, They HAD To Be Highly Sedentary
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 09:27 AM by ProfessorGAC
I mean, who could do anything active is you smoke 2 joint an hour?
The Professor
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:28 AM
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18. Taxpayer Funded Bush "Scientific" Study ...... Now they "prove' pot is bad for you

Just another waste of money on the "War on Drugs", I bet the study was
done by the Pharmaceutical companies.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:29 AM
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19. Yeah. And I Can Prove That Eating 500# of Broccoli Per Day Kills
Simply because you wouldn't be able to digest fast enough and would therefore, EXPLODE!
The Professor
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:32 AM
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20. Did you know that if rats were the size of English school children...
they could wipe us out in a week?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:38 AM
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23. "Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist"...nt
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 09:38 AM by SidDithers
Sid
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:36 AM
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21. If I ate 50 carrots a day I think I'd have some complications
like turning orange and dying of carrottop disease or something. ;)
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singilarpoint Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:37 AM
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22. Against
I have always wondered why the U.S Government hates the reefers so much. The only thing I could ever come up with is that it is the government and the alcohol lobbyist that suppress the reefers so much...It's the only thing that makes sense to me. Although I know I could be way wrong..
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