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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:48 PM
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Does Obama need to rethink his choice of economic adviser?
Obama has chosen as his top economic adviser a man named Jason Furman.

Mr. Furman loves Walmart.

Please read the article that Mr. Furman wrote on Walmart in 2005.

. . . .

Implicit in much of the criticism of Wal-Mart is the belief that the company has
enormous resources and could easily pay higher wages or more benefits without making a major
sacrifice. After all, Wal-Mart’s mind-boggling $10 billion in profits last year make it appear as
if the company could wave a wand and do anything it wants. But Wal-Mart also has a staggering
1.3 million American employees, multiplying the costs of even a modest change in
compensation.

Overall, it is no easier for Wal-Mart to change compensation than many other companies.
This year Wal-Mart will earn about $6,000 per employee. This is virtually identical to the
average for the retail sector and somewhat below the national average of $9,000 in profits per
employee in the corporate sector. Some companies make substantially more, like Microsoft
($143,000 per employee) or General Motors ($12,000 per employee). Overall, it is not much
easier for Wal-Mart to change compensation than, say, a small business making $24,000 a year
and employing four people.

If Microsoft paid each of its employees an additional $5,000 or expanded its health
benefits, its profits would be largely unchanged. If Wal-Mart took the same step – and did not
pass the cost on to consumers – it would be virtually wiped out.

. . . .

Some have pointed to Costco (which has higher wages and more generous benefits),
arguing that if Wal-Mart were more generous with its employees it would do better at attracting,
motivating, and retaining them, increasing its total profits. I have no ability to judge whether or
not this is true, although given the choice I would trust Wal-Mart to know more about
maximizing profits and shareholder value than its critics.

http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/walmart_progressive.pdf

Furman argues that Wal-Mart has lowered the price of food and is a great employer. Hmmm. Do we Democrats agree?

Oh, and what about free trade?
. . . .
"We are very much taken aback that Furman has been put at the head of this team," said Marco Trbovich, a senior aide to United Steelworkers President Leo W. Gerard, whose support is considered crucial to Obama's success in heavily unionized areas of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Minnesota and other battleground states.

Trbovich worked with Furman during Kerry's presidential campaign, in which Furman was also an economic adviser.

"He is a very bright fellow, but he is an unalloyed cheerleader for the trade policies that have been very destructive to manufacturing jobs in this country," Trbovich said. "There are very serious concerns" about his appointment.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-furman11-2008jun11,0,3477009.story

If Mr. Obama acquaints himself with the Furman paper, maybe he'll stop the Wal-Mart bashing he engaged in during the primary campaign, when he criticized Senator Clinton in a debate by saying to her, "While I was working on those streets, watching those folks see their jobs shift overseas, you were a corporate lawyer sitting on the board at Wal-Mart." And it isn't only Wal-Mart where Mr. Furman has shown flashes of good sense. In a 2007 paper, he praised Rep. Charles Rangel's proposal to cut the corporate tax rate in America to 30.5% from 35%. It would be nice to see Senator Obama back a reduction in America's corporate tax rates. Instead, what Mr. Obama has had to offer so far in the campaign, on the economic policy front, is falsehoods festooned with flip-flops.

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/obama-nomics/79678/

So Obama's top economic adviser is pro-Walmart and pro-free trade.

Let's remember, the reason slavery was brought to the U.S. was because slaves lowered the cost of production. Would Furman say slavery was a good thing since it lowered the cost of products for consumers? Walmart has not only sucked up the job market, it has destroyed local, traditional family businesses in many small towns across America, destroying the culture of the communities and their tax base. How does Walmart destroy the tax base of the community? For example, in my Mom's hometown, Walmart moved a big box store in right across the street from the established shopping center. Soon, the shops in the established center closed for lack of business. Once the dust had settled and Walmart had virtually established a monopoly, it decided to build a new even bigger store -- at the outskirts of the town. In its wake, it left a huge empty building and an ugly parking lot for the city to patrol.

It's not too late for Obama to find a better economic adviser. John Edwards could help him on that. Edwards was endorsed by an impressive list of outstanding economists. Edwards is on Obama's team, after all, so it would not be a problem for Obama to get Edwards' advice on the choice of an economics adviser.

Obama has promised to do something about poverty. This Furman fellow just doesn't sound to me like the kind of guy who really wants to do much about poverty. Nothing wrong with keeping Furman on the team, but it sounds like Furman should not be the team leader. His should just be one of a number of opinions considered.

Obama fans, does your leader pay attention to you? If so, please let him know how you feel about this guy Furman. Do you like Furman or not?

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RoseMead Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:10 PM
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1. Furman's not the whole story
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:17 PM
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3. Right. Obama's CHIEF economic adviser is Austan Goolsbee, who also happens to be
the chief economist for the Democratic Leadership Committee and the so-called Progressive Policy Institute.
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RoseMead Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:29 PM
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4. I know who Austan Goolsbee is
I've been paying attention to this issue since Goolsbee's position was announced. I don't like him or Furman, but I was making the point that they aren't the whole story. It seems that Obama has a mixed group of voices in his economic advisers, and I think that's a good thing. Or is it your contention that only Goolsbee and Furman matter, and the rest are only there for show?
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:31 PM
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6. You may know who he is, but those proclaiming Obama as an "anti-DLC" candidate don't
BTW, I don't buy this "surrounding himself with different voices" schtick.

Who is the voice of labor among his cabal of otherwise rightwing economic advisors??? :hi:
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RoseMead Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:54 PM
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10. Buy what you want
I believe that a willingness to listen to voices from all sides is a strength. I believe Obama is intelligent enough to make informed decisions, and I don't believe he will be blindly led by any of his advisors. Feel free to believe otherwise.

Obama has numerous union endorsements, including the UMWA, which is of particular significance in my state. And as for not being "anti-DLC," he's a lot less DLC than the alternative was.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:49 PM
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8. Please tell me the names of the liberal ones.
Goolsbee is University of Chicago. The ones getting the press are conservative. Please give me some hope here.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:56 PM
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11. ...crickets... nt
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 01:57 PM by Romulox
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RoseMead Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 02:05 PM
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13. lol Sorry I'm not moving fast enough for you
I'll work harder to meet your expectations next time.
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RoseMead Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 02:04 PM
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12. Is Galbraith not liberal?
"James Galbraith "is a progressive American economist who writes frequently for mainstream and liberal publications on economic topics. He is the son of renowned economist John Kenneth Galbraith. From 1981 to 1982, Galbraith served on the staff of the Congress of the United States, eventually as Executive Director of the Joint Economic Committee. In 1985, he was a guest scholar at the Brookings Institution.

He is the Chair of Economists for Peace and Security, formerly known as Economists Against the Arms Race and later Economists Allied for Arms Reduction (ECAAR), an international association of professional economists concerned with peace and security issues. He is also a Senior Scholar with the Levy Economics Institute of Bard College and Director of the University of Texas Inequality Project."

Maybe I'm wrong, but I've always considered him pretty liberal. :shrug:

And for that matter, Obama's not a liberal. He's a million times more liberal than McCain, but he's not a liberal like I am, or like many people on DU. I think he's the best person for the job out of the final available choices, and I think he will do a great job. I'm supporting him wholeheartedly, but I don't have alot of illusions him being truly liberal.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 02:59 PM
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16. Thanks. I like Galbraith. Why isn't he the team leader?
I was so busy with other things including responding to posts to my post that I did not have a chance to check the link to the DU thread in the first response. I feel somewhat relieved.

I first got worried about Obama yesterday when I learned that he opposes impeachment. I strongly support impeachment. Then my husband brought the news about the economic advisers and I began to really worry. Have you read Naomi Klein's book, Shock Doctrine? I hate to see a U. Chicago economist advising Obama to any extent.
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RoseMead Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 04:06 PM
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17. According to Krugman, he's the policy director
"(Furman's) not, despite what the story says, Obama’s chief economic policy advisor — he’s the economic policy director, which is a process job: basically, he organizes other people to provide advice."
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/11/jason-and-the-obamanauts/

I know Krugman was not pro-Obama during the primary, but I still like him and trust him when it comes to economics. He has some good things to say about Furman, and I'm willing to at least consider the points he's making in this blog post (even if he's still throwing snark at the people who didn't choose to vote for Hillary - I'm hoping he gets over that eventually).

Obama's not perfect, but I still think he's very good, and his willingness to listen to what people with differing opinions have to say is a good thing, imo. I won't say there's zero cause for concern, but I think some people are possibly more worried about this than they need to be. Just my opinion, of course. :)
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 05:08 PM
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18. Thanks for the link. I do feel better having read this although I would
like to know more about just what Furman has written or said that lead Krugman to his conclusion. Here is what Krugman says. I hope he will say more on this topic.

. . . .

1. Furman is a very good guy, with a solid track record as a progressive. You can disagree with him about Walmart — and I do — but his heart is clearly with those who want more social justice and a stronger safety net.

2. He’s not, despite what the story says, Obama’s chief economic policy advisor — he’s the economic policy director, which is a process job: basically, he organizes other people to provide advice. Obviously there could be a real problem if the policy director steered the candidate away from progressive advice, but Furman is, as I said, a solid progressive, and well suited to the job of honest broker.

Maybe I’m wrong, but my sense is that Jason Furman has become a proxy target for some Obama supporters who, now that the Great Satanness has been defeated, are suddenly starting to have the queasy feeling that their hero might be a bit of a …. centrist. I’m tempted to say I told you so; in fact, I guess I just did. But that’s all in the past now.

Anyway, lay off Jason Furman, a good guy who will do his best to defeat a candidate who gets his economic advice from Phil Gramm.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/11/jason-and-the-obamanauts/

While I was an Edwards supporter, my children are Obama supporters and, since I trust them in some ways even more than I trust myself, I am taking their word for it. I want to understand what Obama stands for ever, not just for myself but because I am a good campaigner and need to know all about Obama, arguments pro and con. In spite of my preference for Edwards, I will probably be tabling and knocking on doors for Obama as I did for Kerry and Clinton. I am very good at connecting with voters one on one, but I have to know the candidates' stands on the issues and prepare my arguments on their behalf. When I have a doubt on an issue, I will raise it. You have to know and understand the negatives about your client's case before you can effectively represent the client in a court. The same thing is true when you speak on behalf of a candidate, especially if you do it one on one.


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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:16 PM
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2. I thought "hit" pieces against Obama were out? Isn't this one, since he has
more advisors than we could shake a stick at.

Do they all have to agree with Obama, or shouldn't he be able to hear a diversity of voices?

Hillary Clinton sat on Walmart's board of 10 years. Does that mean she can't be Obama's running mate and that he shouldn't consider her due to that?
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RoseMead Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:30 PM
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5. I was going to bring up the point
about Hillary's Wal-Mart past, but I was afraid it might be construed as an attack. :hide:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:48 PM
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7. FrenchieCat, why did Obama choose this guy as his top economic
adviser? Please explain.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:51 PM
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9. I'm genuinely confused, FrenchiCat, as is my husband.
You know a lot about Obama. You have defended an argued for him for months. Both my husband and I are very concerned about this. We thought of Obama as more liberal than Clinton and hoped that he would lead the country in a liberal direction. Now I learn that he opposes impeachment and has these conservative advisers. Please restore my confidence in Obama.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 02:07 PM
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14. Be "concerned" please. I have noted your concern on several fronts
in reference to Barack Obama.

My job here is not to "restore" your confidence, because I don't think you ever had any.

My understanding is that this forum is here to "support" our Democratic Nominee, not air constant "concerns" as though he has done something wrong....just because your criteria of his choices is different from his.

In reference to impeachment, you should support it if you so choose....but to believe that our Democratic Nominee should start on the General Election track advocating it is highly debatable......and in fact, so much so, until I'd rather not second guess why Obama feels this cannot be what the GE is about....since he's not running against George Bush. We all feel differently about this, and if Obama's decision not to jump onboard will make you stay home and defacto help elect McCain, than that's your choice to make.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 02:14 PM
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15. Please tell me the name of a liberal economist on Obama's
/team of economic advisers. I like Edwards. I will vote for Obama but I will not blindly worship him. Have you read Naomi Klein? U. Chicago economists are a red flag. They mean more of the same economic policies. It is these policies that have ruined our country. If you haven't read Naomi Klein's books, please do so. And any information you can provide about Obama's economics advisers would be appreciated. Please, no more propaganda.
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