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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:19 PM
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Put ANWR on ballot in November?
It seems to me that would be a good idea. That would put the arguement in the hands of the American people and resolve it once and for all. Comments please.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:20 PM
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1. good idea,
but will they listen to us?
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Twelve Horses Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:21 PM
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2. approved?
What if it gets approved?

-M
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:22 PM
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3. We don't have federal election ballot initiatives.
That would look too much like democracy.

If Congress wants to open up ANWR, then let them establish an exploration and drilling enterprise wholly owned by the People of the United States.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:23 PM
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4. The Arctic Refuge
It's a wildlife refuge and the environmental groups are right, we lose when we use the oil industry's monicker.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:24 PM
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5. Did I dream this or didn't we vote on this before like
back twenty years ago? I vaguely remember voting on something that protected wild life refugees from unwarranted drilling or other development. Anybody else recall something like this.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:29 PM
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8. You must've dreamed it
there are no national referenda. Never have been.

The federal government doesn't run any elections - the states do.
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Carnea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:24 PM
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6. America would vote to drill... NT
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:39 PM
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14. Only if the vote was stolen.
Americans know the oil deal is all fraud. They don't want the parkland and environment plundered.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:28 PM
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7. LOL
we don't have national referenda.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:31 PM
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9. Nope. ANWR should be held in EMERGENCY reserve for when we
desperately need oil for transportation of food and critical mass transit needs. Not one drop should ever go for private cars, IMHO. Or recreational uses of any kind.

Some people still just don't GET IT. What part of the wheels coming off do they not understand?
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Longtooth Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:35 PM
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10. I agree.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:37 PM
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11. What country are you from?
Let the people decide on the way to run this country? Not unless you are a globalist and invited to the secret Bilderberg Group, CRF, etc. meetings. They've already decided for us.

We have to declare those organizations a danger to democracy.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:38 PM
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12. the 2 minute attention span American public would vote to drill and get that 6 months supply
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 01:38 PM by LSK
and after that 6 months supply is used, then what? Oh and by the way, what ensures that the oil companies would sell that oil only to the USA?

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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:38 PM
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13. It's the 'Arctic National Wildlife Reserve'
"ANWR" is an acronym the oil industry uses to make it sound less than it is.

I had a friend tell me yesterday that if we drilled there it'd provide the U.S. with oil for 60 years. His wife believes * is doing a good job.

Their only news source is Fox News.

p.s. We don't do national referendums. Living in California with its Propositions, I can tell you firsthand that it's a lousy way to make laws.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:40 PM
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15. That's what they promised us with the Alaskan pipeline.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 02:07 PM
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16. Some interesting facts about ANWAR
the oil located there makes up only 5% of what has already been explored in that area.

the oil is of a heavy sour crude variety. expensive and hard to refine.

the oil is also located in an area that makes it difficult to remove due to temp and depth.

if suddenly we were allowed to drill there, it would be between 5-8 years before the first barrel is available for refinement.

and more importantly, the amount that is estimated to be there wouldn't last very long. Estimates have put it at anywhere from 6 months to a year at current usage rates. 8 years from now, no doubt that would be greatly reduced.
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