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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 05:59 PM
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There seems to be a direct connection between torture at Guantanamo and the beginning of 24
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 06:49 PM by seemslikeadream
Individuals were watching and influenced by the TV program 24

TV show had many friends at Guantanamo.

Three weeks after the beginning of 2nd season of 24 the torture began.


Philippe Sands

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUICm1VH-rQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j38GxxE2CBY


The Green Light: Attorney Philippe Sands Follows the Bush Administration Torture Trail

A new exposé in Vanity Fair by British attorney Philippe Sands reveals new details about how attorney John Yoo and other high-ranking administration lawyers helped design and implement the interrogation policies seen at Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib and secret CIA prisons. According to Vanity Fair, then-White House counsel Alberto Gonzales and other top officials personally visited Guantanamo in 2002, discussed interrogation techniques and witnessed interrogations. Sands joins us in our firehouse studio.





Philippe Sands: Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPAGNNsrwUw



Jimmy Carter: Talks George Bush & war crimes at Hay Festival
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWBY2hO6vA

When pressed by Philippe Sands...on Bush's recent admission that he had authorized interrogation procedures widely seen as amounting to torture, Carter replied that he was sure Bush would be able to live a peaceful, 'productive life - in our country'" after he leaves the White House. Sands later said that he had "understood that to be 'clear confirmation' that, while Bush would face no challenge in his own country, 'what happened outside the country was another matter entirely.'


Phillipe Sands Discusses Torture and U.S. Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S6IU755uFM

On Bill Moyers Journal, human rights lawyer Phillipe Sands discusses his new book on how the U.S. came to abandon the Geneva Convention and accept torture. Sands says Bush administration officials are unwilling to accept responsibility for their actions.



Rep. Mike Pence: Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTla3-JZhnM

Philippe Sands attempts to enlighten Rep. Pence as to why torture is wrong during his appearance before the House Judiciary Constitution, Civil Rights & Civil Liberties Subcmte. hearing on Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules


Rep.John Conyers: Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFLCNypjK6k

Philippe Sands responds to Rep. Conyers question as to what avenues of inquiry the committee should undertake and expounds upon his testimony before the House Judiciary Constitution, Civil Rights & Civil Liberties Subcmte. hearing on Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules.



Addington was the leader of the pack, went to Guantanamo himself




Rep.Artur Davis: Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sst5vMpOFx4

David Rivkin tries to claim that the IRA was a different threat but Rep.Davis throws his flawed logic back in his face. Philippe Sands also pointedly rebukes Rivkin assertions. Discussion of Presidental pardons to exonerate torture policies employed is hypothetically touched on. From hearing by House Judiciary Constitution, Civil Rights & Civil Liberties Subcmte. on Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules.



Rep.Issa & Rep.Ellison: Guantanamo Bay Interrogation Rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKZ5WaTWdA

Philippe Sands responds to the slick and sly Rep.Issa and details his thoughts further upon question by Rep. Ellison during hearing by House Judiciary Constitution, Civil Rights & Civil Liberties Subcmte. on Guantanamo Bay and Interrogation Rules.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 06:07 PM
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1. I've always assumed '24' was pure DOD/GOP propaganda.
Just like most of the MSM.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:02 AM
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5. But presumably not "Family Guy?"
24 is written by conservatives, and is fairly entertaining, particularly seasons 3 and 5 (in my opinion).

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 06:28 PM
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2. Contemporary TV is a psyop on the American people.
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 07:19 PM by Octafish
Glad to see a few good people managed to avert their eyes and send us a warning.

US psychological warfare experts worked at CNN and NPR during Kosovo War
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 07:28 PM
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3. United States Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations Command
If you wanna know real viral marketing, please scroll down a bit to the You Tubes thing.

http://silverbroom.co.uk/blog/2008/03/11/turn-tv/
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ogsbee Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:01 AM
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4. Who's the "THEY" nowadays? I don't doubt 24 is government sponsored psyops at all
I don't believe in big coincidences. But who's behind the curtain now, the DOD, CIA, what? Is the DOD outright psyoping the media and our government? They used retired generals illegally as "message multipliers." The military no longer seems to serve the country, but serves the military-industrial complex. Obviously, the DOD decided that we lost the Vietnamese war due to a journalism stab in the back. Thus the embedded journalists in the Iraq war and the war on non-embedded journalists. Attacking journalists however is attacking the people, it assumes that people can't be trusted to make the "right" decision and, also, that people's opinions are irrelevant. Thus a war on journalists is really a war on the people.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:05 AM
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6. kick!
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