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Wed Jun-11-08 08:48 PM
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Question can Pelosi be removed from her Speaker of House |
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Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 09:42 PM by lovuian
how many votes would it take to get her out of Speaker Position
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:51 PM
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1. I don't know but it seems that she will have to recuse herself from the impeachment hearings |
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Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 08:52 PM by seemslikeadream
because she was in on the briefings, then Conyers, who was NOT briefed will be able to move foward. And I believe it will, I think Philippe Sands testimony got to some of the folks on the Hill
I'm listening to Dennis right now and he seems very confident this is gonna happen
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:53 PM
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3. Well she is becoming an embarassment to the party |
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She is suppose to be supportive to her party Not threatening Conyers and Kucinich She has made a grave mistake taking Impeachment off the table
Its pretty sad when the Democrats chief is protecting Bush's butt
HowarD Dean needs to address this to her as well as OBAMA
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:02 PM
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10. She has NO authority to take impeachment off the table |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:08 PM
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17. especially when the majority voted for it |
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she is going against her own majority
Why would she jeopardize herself like this???
for BUSH who has a 80% disapproval rating
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:11 PM
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20. One interpretation has been that she was warned that should impeachment go forward ... |
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neither the general election nor Congress would be allowed to. But with Dubya/Cheney now held in such low regard, would such a threat still be credible?
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:14 PM
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24. that threat needs to come out openly to all America not |
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closed doors
if thats the threat then she needs to tell America what bush & cheney said
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:14 PM
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25. because she was briefed on the torture, she's complict |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:17 PM
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29. Bingo she is saving her butt and there fore she needs to be |
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removed from Speaker of the House
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:27 PM
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37. she is covering up something, why protect these SOB's |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:15 PM
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27. She's obviously prejudiced |
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She must recuse herself and allow the investigations to proceed.
We're NOT talking actual impeachment here, merely investigations.
If there's NOTHING THERE, then she can at least claim to be impartial.
Blocking an investigation should be seen as a cover-up.
Period.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:18 PM
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32. Obstructive of Justice and Conspiracy and Kucinich is |
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building that case it looks like
She isn't even allowing investigations
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:53 PM
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2. She is a traitor to this country |
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AND needs to be removed from office. Vote her out California in the coming election
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:55 PM
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4. Her party needs to remove her because she is not reflecting |
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the Democrat Party of which that is what she is suppose to do
her Democrat colleagues voted her in she can be removed
Is she looking at Impeachment here of herself
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:06 PM
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you think that's going to happen?
She just won her primary by an enormous amount. She's not getting voted out in Nov.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:09 PM
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18. No her constituents didn't vote for her to be Speaker |
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the democratic Caucus did thats what I'm asking can they vote her out at any time if she is not doing her job
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:18 PM
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31. There's no reason to think the Democratic caucus |
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as a whole wants to impeach.
Most of them can count.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:20 PM
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34. But all of the Caucus has showed Pelosi they want Impeachment |
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Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 09:21 PM by lovuian
if she doesn't do what the caucus says all those who voted for the investigation COULD vote her out as Speaker theres a Big reason for the Caucus to vote her out and Kucinich showed he has lots of votes
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:38 PM
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41. Easily confused . . .. . . . . . |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:28 PM
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she knows alot more than what she is saying.
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:56 PM
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5. I'm hoping and praying that in the new Congress next year that both Pelosi and Reid will be replaced |
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with effectual party leaders.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:01 PM
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9. Isn't the Speaker elected by the Democrats to be in position |
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if the majority votes against her for her blocking impeachment which is going against the constitution
I mean Kucinich has the votes right to knock her out who would be the new Speaker
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:57 PM
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6. Obama opposes impeachment |
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we need to remove him as our nominee now!!!!
Feingold opposes impeachment! We need to remove him NOW!
Howard Dean doesn't support impeachment! We have to remove him NOW!!!!!!!
You people are insane.
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Wed Jun-11-08 08:59 PM
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Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 09:00 PM by G_j
you are part of it
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:01 PM
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8. The Democratic Caucus would have to vote her out |
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If there were any threat of that, she'd would have helped in writing the articles Mr. Kucinich introduced.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:03 PM
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12. If the democratic caucus votes her out who calls for the vote |
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to take place???? can it happen at anytime if the Speaker is found violating the constitution of Unites States
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:15 PM
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26. Sorry. See number 23. That one's for you, Louvian. |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:03 PM
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13. So how do we the people present the threat? n/t |
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:10 PM
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19. We don't, at least not directly |
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Most states have already held their primaries. The only way you can really express your dissatisfaction now is voting for another candidate or staying home, which means letting the Republicans win the seat. That would be sacrificing your principles for your principles.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:12 PM
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21. I will vote for the Democratic candidate but I |
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feel like I'm in a time loop dating back to when we elected Bill Clinton.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:12 PM
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22. But its her position as Speaker that is in question |
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can she be removed by the Democratic Caucus which all of them voted for Impeachment referendum
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:18 PM
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30. What they did today is refer the matter to the Judiciary Committee |
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No further action will be taken on it.
The ball is in Conyers' court.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:14 PM
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23. I'm not sure under what rules party caucuses operate |
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That is in all likelihood a moot point. I'll give better chances of Bush and Cheney actually being impeached and removed before the Democratic Caucus votes out the Speaker mid-term.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:16 PM
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28. But its possible jack its possible the caucus could vote her out |
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mid term or no they did it to Gephardt if I remember
there has to be a check and balance for a corrupt Speaker
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:24 PM
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36. No, they didn't do it to Gephardt |
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While it's possible, I don't think they'll do it to Ms. Pelosi. As Leader of the House Democrats, she was able to engineer their 2006 electoral victory and it looks like her strategy is going to get them a boatlaod more seats this November, even if it completely failed to end the war or protect us from Bush and Cheney's lawlessness.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:30 PM
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39. Its Possible Thanks Jack thats all I was looking for |
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Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 09:32 PM by lovuian
the Democratic Caucus CAN vote her out of her Speaker position at anytime with a majority vote
if Kucinich has that majority vote Pelosi could be ousted from her position
by the way didn't they vote out Gephardt as Majority Leader
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:02 PM
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11. I'm wondering the same thing. |
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We were unhappy with her when she was the minority leader but gave her a pass considering the toxic environment then, but I was surprised when she got the majority. Just how does she get this power? How do we give it to someone else more along what the Democratic Party is about or should be about, preservation of our country and Constitution.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:05 PM
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15. She is not reflecting the Democratic Party is SHE |
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Howard Dean are you in favor of Impeachment??? Evidentally over 200 congressman the majority feel Impeachment should proceed Is Kucinich setting her up for a BIG FALL
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:05 PM
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I worry they're both corrupt.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:18 PM
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33. Only the House can do that, not... |
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pissed off posters on internet boards.
Posters who should, before shooting their mouths off, know something about what the Speaker's office is all about and how Pelosi compares to past Speakers.
Name at least one past Democratic Speaker and describe how he was so successful fighting a Republican President.
For extra credit-- name a Republican Speaker and describe how he fared against a Democratic president.
Then get back to us and describe exactly how Pelosi can do what you want just because you want it.
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:23 PM
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35. The House can do it does that mean Republicans vote for the |
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Speaker of the House I thought the Speaker reflected the democratic Caucus
and I believe Gephardt was removed for a similiar reason
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:35 PM
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40. Didn't Gephardt just become Minority leader |
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when the Dems lost the House?
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:41 PM
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42. I know he stepped down as Minority Leader but he wasn't |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Gephardtvoted out so I stand corrected he didn't run for reelection Pelosi replaced him as Minority Leader at the time
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:47 PM
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43. Gephardt never had a chance, since... |
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both parties vote as a block and that year Republicans outnumbered Democrats. Besides, one asshole Democrat voted for Hastert and another voted for Murtha. Even without the two assholes, though, everyone knew how it was going to turn out.
Actually, there is no requirement for the Speaker to even be a House member, although no one's bothered to test that theory. What usually happens is that each party nominates its House leader and the whole house votes. The party with the majority of members wins, of course.
So, Gephardt wasn't "removed." He was never elected to the job.
I can't think of when a Speaker was voted out of office, but it probably happened some time. (should check on Gingrich's fate...)
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Wed Jun-11-08 09:49 PM
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44. She can be impeached. Steny too if he continues to obstruct. |
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Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 09:49 PM by Wizard777
They should want to be more.
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Wed Jun-11-08 10:07 PM
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45. A majority of the House (218) would need to vote to declare the office of Speaker vacant |
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If 19 Democrats were to join with all of the Republicans they could depose her. A new election for Speaker would then immediately be held.
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Wed Jun-11-08 10:35 PM
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46. Thank you for answering my question |
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So a simple Majority could declare the office of Speaker vacant
and we saw the Majority on the vote for Impeachment
So it is possible
Thanks maybe thats what kucinich is up to with others She's hanging herself for Bush????
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Wed Jun-11-08 10:45 PM
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47. The majority voted to send it to the Judiciary Committee |
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That is the same committee to which the Cheney impeachment bill was sent. The same committee which hasn't held one single hearing on the Cheney impeachment bill.
This one was sent to the Judiciary Committee for the same reason. That is what the majority wants.
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Wed Jun-11-08 10:52 PM
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48. it would take a majority of the Democrats in the House |
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ain't gonna happen, though
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