I want on this jury!!!!!!!!! man kills 4 kittens with a hammer

[greenbriar]

36-year-old Branden Hayes has been booked into jail on felony animal cruelty
charges.

HIs ex-girlfriend, Lisa Stewart, said she asked Hayes a couple of weeks ago to take her four kittens from the house to the garage to get a little air. A
few hours later she took their mother in to nurse. They were gone. She was
sick with worry.

"They were only twelve days old. Their eyes weren't even open yet," said
Stewart.

After searching the street for the kittens she said that Hayes finally admitted
he had buried them in the backyard after hitting them with a hammer and stabbing and strangling them to death.

http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/19797684.html

[MadMaddie]

1. I really hope she is ex...

What a sick bastard...

I then ask why would she seperate the mother and the kittens?

[Cronus Protagonist]

2. A hammer to the head seems more humane than a shock

How is that cruelty? Did he stab them before or after the hammer? I suppose if before, yes it's cruel, if after, it's just sick.

[gullwing300]

14. Strangling was involved in there somewhere...according to this "report."

:eyes:

[warren pease]

119. Are you fucking nuts or am I missing your sarcasm?

If the latter, deepest apologies. If the former, you'd better spend the rest of your life praying to your gods that we never meet.


wp

[lame54]

125. Cheney, Is that you?

[LanternWaste]

127. may have missed it.

Did the story imply that the heads were the specific and only locations the kittens were struck in? I may have missed it.

[Rob H.]

133. WTF?! It's fucking cruel AND sick EITHER WAY! nt

[Cronus Protagonist]

134. Do you spend your life protesting animal pounds?

They put electrodes to the ears of animals and kill dozens or hundreds of them every week. You don't seem to care about that. If the guy took the little things to a pound what do you think woud happen to them?

[Dorian Gray]

144. How the hell do you know what anybody

seems to care about. There are plenty of people here who do animal rescue from kill shelters. There are plenty of people here who are animal friendly and do much to protect animals regularly. And obviously a story about a man who kills baby kittens by slamming their heads with a hammer is seriously cruel. Who says it's better than what kill shelters do to animals? Or worse? I didn't think this thread was a comparison thread.

:eyes:

[greenbriar]

152. additionally, she did not want them to be harmed. She wanted them

so why is talk of shelters even relevant?

[Rob H.]

151. The kittens in the story weren't being taken to the pound

That's got nothing to do with the story, and you know it.

She asked him to take them outside to get some air but instead he beat them with a hammer, strangled, and stabbed them and you're fucking hair-splitting about which he did first, as if the order somehow makes a difference? And ftr, I regularly donate to my local humane society and a no-kill shelter from which I adopted my cat, not that it's any of your goddamned business.

Fuck off. And welcome to my ignore list.

[Dorian Gray]

142. It's cruel

to kill an animal for no reason other than "I just felt like it."

Regardless of the method.

[Trillo]

143. A hammer to the head is how cattle are reportedly slaughtered.

I believe it's a pneumatic hammer, they place it at the top of the skull then pull the trigger.

The last time I had an an elderly cat (who was dying and no longer eating) put to sleep, the veterinarian charged $100, and additional charges for disposal. It's not surprising that other means are sought as a solution given that costliness for 'a couple of shots' and a short amount of the vet's time.

Whether this particular case is was inhumane or not depends upon more details. The jury will have to decide.

Ground Squirrels are considered a pest in California, and while there's a trend for "humane" trapping of them, a agricultural report from one of the universities printed in the 90s claimed it was illegal in California to trap a squirrel and release them. Years ago it was reported that it's illegal to trap and keep 'wild animals', so, those who trap ground squirrels would seem to be required to kill them, presumably using various techniques: one mentioned method was to place the trap in water, drowning the animal.

I just recalled what happened to one of the kittens of the litter that we recently got a kitten from. The mother cat ate one of the kittens, all that was found in the apartment was the kittens tail. This reportedly occurs with some regularity.

Nature is brutal at times, and so are some of our laws.

[Cronus Protagonist]

145. Stop talking sense!!

The fake outrage people might have to recognise their cognitive dissonance while they eat their cruelly killed steaks!

[greenbriar]

153. SHE DID NOT WANT THEM DEAD

She didn't even want to find new homes for them



they were only 12 days old

they didn't even have their eyes open

[Maraya1969]

156. A lot of what you are saying is true. When I had to put my little dog Tara down

about 1.5 years ago the vet charged me $240.00. I could not believe it but what was I to do. I was in a state of shock. So this time when my older senior dog that I adopted at 14 had to be put down, (at age 16) I took him to the shelter because they would do it for free. But I was sitting with him and about 20 other people and kids and pets with a ticket like at the deli counter until they called my number. And I was crying and my dog kept twisting himself up on the chair because I think he had several strokes over the weekend before I took him.

It all sucks. I am beginning to think that if a pet is so sick that putting it down with a gun shot in the back yard would be more humane than dragging the poor thing to the vet while he is scared, (my Duke screamed the whole time) and have them put on a metal gurney just so you can say you put them down "humanely". I guess what I am saying is maybe we need to re-think what "humanly" entails again.

[ccharles000]

3. Most disgusting.

[buff2]

4. That woman must be as sick as he is

Otherwise,why is she even WITH someone like that? WTF is WRONG with people anymore? How can they do such a horrible thing to little innocent creatures that can't even defend themselves? God,I absolutely detest people like that.He should get the same treatment he gave those poor little kittens. :grr:

[hokies4ever]

6. No need to vilify her over his bad actions

I doubt that she thought that he would do that type of thing if she left him alone with them.

[rocktivity]

5. Oh, I know how you feel

I saw a documentary about a child sex cult just the other day. It showed video of little girls strip dancing, which the cult leader had ordered up like pizzas, and I thought, "I'm SOOOO glad he's dead, because I'd really really feel like tracking him down and killing him!"

:headbang:
rocknation

[MercutioATC]

7. They have felony animal cruelty in Kansas? I'm surprised.

That said...yeah, the guy is a sick fuck, but I don't see animal cruelty being a felony charge.

[elocs]

10. Well, maybe they recognize that many sick fucks who kill people start with animals. n/t

[MercutioATC]

16. ...and some speeders will drive recklessly and commit vehicular homicide.

Speeding wasn't a felony last I checked.

[elocs]

33. Just to be consistent--vehicular homicide is a felony though.

Let's at least keep this somewhat apples and apples.

[Carnea]

100. Swinging a hammer isn't a felony killing a kitten with one should be... nt

[Carnea]

99. What????? nt

[jody]

8. I don't understand the concern over kittens when we eat meat obviously killed and support abortions.

[greenbriar]

9. I support a womans right to choose....do you also oppose birth control?

.............

[jody]

18. LOL n/t

[StarryNite]

11. You've got to be kidding.

[jody]

19. No. n/t

[greenbriar]

24. aw another male taking on the limiting of women's choice

nice

[jody]

27. I'm pro-choice, are you? n/t

[greenbriar]

28. I support a womans right to choose....

I seriously doubt you are pro-choice based on your comments tho



and I have HUGE problems with men trying to make it an issue when it is something they will NEVER EVER have to be in a position to make such a choice

It also should not be in the political arena

[Carnea]

103. Pro-choice is not pro cruelty. There is no support for hanmering kittens to death.

[elocs]

12. Am I missing something?

The woman asks her boyfriend to simply move the kittens and instead he takes it upon himself to kill them instead without her knowledge. And people should not be concerned about this--why exactly might that be. As far as abortions go, I feel pretty safe in saying that nobody here supports the death of 12 day old infants. As far as the meat thing goes, why didn't the nutjob eat them then?

[jody]

22. If your concern is only because the boyfriend did something without the girlfriends approval, I

agree with you.

If you are upset only over killing kittens, then I stand by my opinion.

[elocs]

72. The behavior is bizarre and there is a connection between killing animals,

and violence toward people. It's a warning sign. Normal people do not do those sort of things. There is nothing remotely normal about being asked to move some kittens and then killing them instead. If I was that girl I would get as far away from that guy as possible and get a restraining order as well.

[jody]

77. You imply that workers in a processing plant who kill animals every day are prone to

"violence toward people".

Please provide a credible source for your inference.

[LeftyMom]

90. That's actually true.

There are a lot of firsthand accounts of it. Check out Slaughterhouse by Gail Eisnitz for a lot of discussion of the relationship between processing work and after-hours violence.

[elocs]

93. If you really cannot understand the difference between somebody who kills kittens

when he was asked to simply move them and people who kill animals in a meat processing plant, then this discussion is pretty hopeless and is one short of having 2 intelligent participants.

[Carnea]

104. No shooting cows is not the same as killing kittens for no reason....nt

[Duppers]

120. ck this out

http://jiv.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/14/9/963

I also must add that my late grandfather owned a slaughter house / meat processing mini-plant. And although I never saw him particularly cruel to people---being a strict conformist that he was, being cruel would have been against his christian up-bringing, he was extremely insensitive on all levels.

And it is important to note that HE WAS NEVER ALLOWED ON A JURY, i.e. was not seen fit to serve on a jury.
Does that fact not tell YOU anything?????????

[JanMichael]

21. And I don't understand people who must have such a limited

amount of compassion that it must be doled out according to whatever they are reading.

[jody]

23. And I don't understand someone who gets upset over kittens being killed when she/he probably eats

meat regularly.

[JanMichael]

25. We are vegetarians.

You don't understand why people are upset over the brutal deaths of living beings. I suggest that you might want to see a counselor or possibly a priest.

[jody]

32. If you are a vegetarian, that's OK for me but will you impose your diet on your children?

Parents of ill vegan girl may face police

A 12-YEAR-OLD girl in Scotland brought up by her parents on a strict vegan diet has been admitted to hospital with a degenerative bone condition said to have left her with the spine of an 80-year-old woman.

Doctors are under pressure to report the couple to police and social workers amid concerns that her health and welfare may have been neglected in pursuit of their dietary beliefs.

The girl, who has been fed on a strict meat and dairy-free diet from birth, is said to have a severe form of rickets and to have suffered a number of fractured bones.

The condition is caused by a lack of vitamin D, which is needed to absorb calcium and is found in liver, oily fish and dairy produce. Decalcification leads to the bones becoming brittle and can cause curvature of the spine.

[JanMichael]

36. We don't have kids.

Scout and Stinky, our dog and cat, eat meat based diets that are based on lamb from New Zealand.

Now read my other post to you and get some goddamned help. Quickly.

[jody]

39. LOL, you feed your pets lamb meat killed under questionable conditions and you are upset over

kittens being killed.

That's hypocrisy!

[JanMichael]

41. Oh, excuse me. Are you a New Zealand lamb

breeder?

Or just another web-based self described omniscient being?

Spare me, creep.

[jody]

49. I have raised lamb for the developing multinational market in the U.S. The slaughter of lambs for

special occasions was a bit gruesome.

[greenbriar]

59. uh no you are sadly misguided

but do carry on, your ass is showing

[jody]

63. If you have an intelligent point to make, please make it. n/t

[JanMichael]

68. Why should he? you have lowered the bar

on this thread to the point where anyone could reply to you with nothing more than a big fat "Jerk!" and be precisely on the same level as you.

[LeftyMom]

92. Vitamin D is a hormone, skin produces it when exposed to sunlight.

Don't be ignorant.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

131. WTF? You are all over the place

What does this have to do with the kittens?

[greenbriar]

26. yes I do eat meat. but I don't eat cats...

apples/oranges


save your faux outrage

maybe you need to join http://www.armyofgod.com/ShelleyJoinAOG.html

it sounds like your kind of people

[jody]

29. But some cultures do eat cats, dogs, etc. Do you oppose their diet? Some cultures oppose eating

various meats that we in the U.S. do eat.

Who is to say what meats are right and what wrong?

[JanMichael]

31. I doubt they strangle, stab and beat them with hammers

first.

Get some help. Seriously.

And if you are so goddamned smart as to recognize cultural differences, then you might want to be cognizant to the fact that you are posting on a website that originates in a country that doesn't eat cats.

Either grow up, see a shrink, or get an exorcist.

Christ.

And furthermore, put me on ignore.

[jody]

35. Do you know how poultry, cows, and hogs are killed? Obviously no. n/t

[JanMichael]

37. We certainly do.

and that is why we are vegetarians.

My wife wasted her youth (her words) dating a USDA veterinarian. She probably knows more about it than you.

Get some help.

[jody]

43. Dating a veterinarian gives experience in the slaughter of animals? LOL. I've raised cows, hogs,

and poultry for the market and visited processing plants many times.

I expect my experience is much greater than your wife's gained from dating a veterinarian.

[JanMichael]

47. Oh for God's sake

she visited the processing plants many times.

And her family had a dairy farm growing up. Yeah. So, that makes you an expert.

You might want to get checked for round worms, btw. They can affect the brain in humans, and your self described background might make you somewhat susceptible.

[jody]

50. Have you had your wifed checked for the various maladies you list? n/t

[JanMichael]

57. not in the past decade, no

you?

[jody]

60. At my age I've stopped worrying about such things. n/t

[JanMichael]

62. Ah. What do you worry about?

hopefully karma.

[jody]

65. I worry about the future for my grandchildren and their generation. I worry about health care,

the economy, and other major issues in a world with scarce resources being consumed by growing international demands.

[JanMichael]

71. Karma, dude

you have lived to the point where you have learned to be hard-hearted toward animal welfare, and now you are worrying about the world your grandchildren will live in?

Well, they are living in a cold, crappy world because of your attitude.

Look in the mirror.

[Carnea]

107. Well I leave my air on for the cats all day and they eat nice fresh meat at night.

The honestly the world would be a better place with more cats and less grandchildren.

[greenbriar]

112. I actually turned the timer on my TV once becasue Spooky was watching it

and we had to leave for work.

[leftynyc]

126. I thought I was the only one who did that

My two love TV, especially sports and I often leave it on for them. Keeps them company.

[greenbriar]

79. and the intelligence of this post would be?

mmmm

[Kool Kitty]

113. I'd say zero, but that's just my rough guess.

[greenbriar]

48. um yea, I worked at a beef processing plant

and you?

[jody]

51. Nope, just raised cattle etc. but visited processing plants. n/t

[Carnea]

105. Yes actually I do oppose cultures that eat cats and dogs. NT

[JanMichael]

30. Freaking weirdos on the internet, dude

I personally think our society has caused so much emotional/mental damage to some folks that people like Dahmer exist--- and people who feel nothing over sick shit like this.

It's horrifying. I am sick of having to live with societal sociopaths.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

34. Well, for one thing it's the type of psychological illness that is associated with his behavior

There's a recognized link between animal abuse and violent behavior. Secondly, violence toward a significant other's pet (and these were pets) is a type of abuse toward the SO. Which often leads to the person committing further abuse in their relationships. Which brings us back to the link between animal abuse and violent behavior.

[jody]

38. Your statements are different from the outrage over kittens being killed. n/t

[JanMichael]

40. nope, wrong again

this poster wrote "well, for one thing..."

FOR ONE THING

Get it?

Do you understand?

[jody]

52. My post was to Lone_Star_Dem. n/t

[JanMichael]

56. so what?

my post was to YOU.

I don't care who you were replying to. I think you need help.

[jody]

67. Have a nice day. n/t

[Lone_Star_Dem]

45. My statements are a direct rebuttal to your statement

Which was a direct reply to the OP.

[jody]

Your "direct rebuttal" missed the OP point which was outrage over killing kittens. Where's the

outrage over killing animals for food?

My goodness, a kitten is just another animal albeit owners may love them like a human.

[JanMichael]

64. no, his/her post did not

your reading comprehension skills need help here.

"Well, for one thing...."

This poster is addressing ONE aspect of the story.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

69. Let's take this slow.

The OP was about a man being charged with animal cruelty.

To which you replied, "I don't understand the concern over kittens when we eat meat obviously killed and support abortions."

To which I pointed out why such actions are viewed as psychologically unstable and why people who commit them are a concern to society.

I believe you missed the point of the OP someplace along the line.

[jody]

76. The OP said "I want on this jury!!!!!!!!! man kills 4 kittens with a hammer" and neglected to show

outrage over animals killed by the billions for food.

I simply pointed out the hypocrisy of giving kittens a preferred position versus other animals used for food.

It also appears that some posters to this thread are more concerned over the death of a kitten than the abortion of an embryo that might develop into someone who might someday post on DU.

[greenbriar]

80. what an ignorant man you are

go troll somewhere else

it is obviously you are deranged

[jody]

83. Perhaps you should not have posted such drivel. n/t

[greenbriar]

87. you are obviously past any intelligent discourse

welcome to my first ignore use EVER

[Lone_Star_Dem]

85. Your reply was as relevant to the OP as my saying, "I've not served on a jury in years."

Would have been.

What the person did was an act of abuse and violence. Which is often a precursor to worse acts. Not in anyway the same as supporting the right for a woman to choose what she does with her body, nor in anyway the same thing as people eating meat. To suggest so is wrong and dangerously ignorant.

Your reply was in essence, an attempt to divert from the subject of the OP and change it into a non-applicable argument.

[Name removed]

91. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

97. Well, they appear to have a personal agenda on an issue or two

I realized it after they replied to me the first time. I then read the rest of the thread and groaned. I'm sorry your thread was the victim of their agenda.

I don't think I was familiar with this poster before tonight. Now I know better than to take their bait as a serious query. x(

[Carnea]

110. I think Jody is drinking out of the PETA well without a decent chaser. NT

[Gemini Cat]

106. Sweet Jane on a river raft!

The kittens were her pets. Get that? The cow at the market isn't. She didn't ask for the kittens to be killed and or used for food. Notice I said she didn't ask for the kittens to be killed and or used for food.

Abortion? You are trying to equate a womans right to choose with killing kittens? A foetus with kittens!? A clump of cells with live kittens? WOW. That's just silly convoluted logic but you probably know that, don't you.

[Occulus]

115. Human cells, no less.

I'll add that before it pounces on you for failing to make the very important distinction between human... and cat.

:rofl:

I had to log out to see the laugh riot. Seeing its name was more than enough to fill in all the blanks.

[stranger81]

150. Yes, I'm definitely more concerned about an actual living being

than an embryo.

And I would hope I'm not alone.

[Carnea]

108. Companion animals are different than fish or cows... NT

[Kool Kitty]

114. Humans are animals, too.

What's your point?

[EstimatedProphet]

137. What the fuck are you even talking about?!?

This was an article about someone who decided to kill kittens! KITTENS! WITH A HAMMER! FOR NO REASON!

Having steak as a protein source is not the same as recreational killing! Why are you even bringing up using animals for food? No one could ever possibly equate the two things in a sane manner!

[physioex]

42. Are you serious?

Cruelty to animals leads to only one thing, cruelty to humans. What makes you think he differentiates?

Stop mixing no related issues togethor, an embryo is not a separate creature on its own.

[JanMichael]

44. S/he is serious

a serious nutjob.

[physioex]

46. I usually don't call out DUers....

But in this case I have to agree with you.

Edit: Anyone who has taken a basic course in psychology knows most killers started out with cruelty to animals.

[Lorien]

53. Always best not to feed the

[physioex]

54. I agree with you....

Post count means nothing.

[JanMichael]

61. time does

check out when mr/ms. lack of compassion started posting. This is no troll--long time DUer.

Man, the internet is weird sometimes.

[physioex]

73. Time means nothing either. EOM

[Occulus]

117. I'll take this moment to assert that the Lounge should not count

when tallying up a user's total posts.

I accept the possibility of irrelevance to this particular case.

I'm being as polite as I can be.

[GoneOffShore]

66. And we thought with the closing of GD: Primaries we could clean our Ignore lists?

We were wrong.

[Lorien]

75. Threads like this are always perfect for adding to ignore lists

I must have over 40 narcissistic insecure sociopathic nutjob animal and/ or child, and/ or woman haters on my list now. I wonder which prison systems are allowing internet access?

[physioex]

81. Yea....

Well I suppose the "quantity" might have gone down. But the quality has gone downhill for sure.

[jody]

70. Do you include slaughter of animals for food as cruelty to animals? If not, why not? n/t

[physioex]

78. That's a very complicated topic.....

Clearly this individual wasn't looking for food to eat.

I have a Republican coworker and one of his favorite topics at work is the "Florida/Michigan Issue" and how he is mad at the Democratic Party for refusing to count every vote. Now why does he give a rats ass about a Democratic Issue. The answer is actually quite simple because he wants Hillary to win the nomination to bring Republicans togethor. Watch Faux News and the love to plaster the Scott and Lacey Peterson issue. For what reason? To stop abortions. Interesting how Republicans love to subvert than to talk about real issues.

[jody]

82. "food to eat". Are you saying killing cats is not cruel if they are to be eaten? n/t

[physioex]

88. I don't eat animals...

Let's not change topics though. Here is what should be of cocern to you. This particular individual does not have the ability to differentiate between cruelty to animals and most likely humans. Left alone he would be a danger to society.

[flvegan]

84. Whoa, hold on here. Allow folks their concerns.

You know, those kittens wouldn't judge someone that cared about them yet still ate meat. That's like greyhounds dissing protesting folk that might wear leather shoes.

Am I right?

[StarryNite]

96. jody what if she had asked him

to drive her car into the garage and instead he took a sledgehammer to it, would that have been okay in your opinion? If not, then is it just that you hate kittens? Or have you done cruel things to animals yourself? Perhaps you defend this guy because you are like minded?

[Carnea]

102. Because there kittens not Zygotes not Cows Kittens.

Kittens have empathy and bond with humans. Cows well don't and a first trimester fetus certainly can't

[yewberry]

116. "We" do?

Speak for yourself on the killing and eating animals thing.

And the abortion comparison is, well, dumb. There's no way to make a real comparison between a medical procedure performed for individual reasons and abusing living, feeling creatures to death.

[Fox Mulder]

121. I don't eat meat, and...

I support a woman's right to choose. I don't support abortion. There's a difference.

[Raejeanowl]

122. Just A Few Comments, If I May

Cat meat is not eaten in the United States; they are predominantly domesticated pets and family members. Further, it is reportedly a foodstuff that no one short of starvation would choose to eat.

The kittens were fully developed, born alive, breathing and several weeks old; not 100% dependent upon a maternal host for nourishment, growth, survival, birth.

The kittens were under the girlfriend's guardianship and someone else (in the form of her boyfriend) decided to end their lives, for no apparent purpose.
If there was any arguable "reason" to this killing, it is known only to the killer; it isn't even fathomable at face value, making it less likely to be a rational act.

For good or ill, human beings have been given stewardship and dominion over themselves and the earth. By virtue of our touted intelligence, if you don't go with the religious paradigm. We have needs, nutritional and otherwise, that are satisfied by other animals, including animals lower on the food chain who do not suffer ethical dilemmas when one of them resorts to eating another because their biology has programmed them to do so! Who do not suffer each other's moral judgments and obstructionism when they cull their own young alive, after birth, as horrible as THAT sounds.

Another need is animal companionship, for whatever anthropomorphic reason you project. Another is ethical certainty or a psychological buffering zone against causing (observable, knowable, quantifiable) unnecessary and avoidable pain and suffering. Some of us parse this out and choose free-range and/or more gently downed animals, for example. Some become semi-vegetarians.

Finally, we have an unrelated (social, psychological and medical) need for reproductive choice AND CONTROL. The killing in the OP was a cruel act that served no greater purpose that the boyfriend's apparently sadistic intent. You might not agree with abortion, but it is challenging to think of an example where it was ever, EVER undertaken by the mother host senselessly, for entertainment, or in anger.

If this is really about reproductive choice, jody, perhaps that's what we should be discussing. Until then, I will happily continue to consider eating a burger, bludgeoning a puppy, swatting a mosquito, wearing a leather belt, or ending an untenable (for whatever reason) pregnancy, all interactions with the biological world that each call for very different and distinct judgments on my part.

[LanternWaste]

128. I believe the the concern arises...

I believe the the concern arises from deeply held social mores. Some cultures eat dogs and marry thirteen year olds, other cultures eat bovine and think marriage is an outdated concept. And, all other things being equal, both would be horrified at the practices of the other.

Not that I'm judging either one, but it seems rather obvious to me that if one crosses the line of the social contract, that concern would be a justified and obvious reaction.

[Zuiderelle]

138. LOL! Killing kittens with a hammer does not equal aborting a fetus.

If he had performed an abortion on the mother cat, that would be a different matter. And no one would be horrified by it. Well, some people might be, but that would be stupid.

[stranger81]

147. sounds like you crawled right off that nasty comment board . . . .

That folks don't understand the difference between an actual living being and a potential being (e.g., a fetus) is sad, sad, sad.

If you're trying to excuse what this lunatic did, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[gullwing300]

13. Hammer plus stabbing plus strangling? STRANGLING?

That's pretty weird...this guy never heard of gunny sacks?

Before you attack me, I love cats and dogs and all animals but I don't go berserk over population control. Or reasonably humane slaughter - a form of hammer is how 99% of food animals are dispatched and virtually every "dog pound" type facility in the country euthanizes them every day...some do hundreds or thousands.

[Pushed To The Left]

15. Isn't this how some serial killers started out? Good thing they have him in custody now

You would have to be pretty heartless to do that to somebody's pet, regardless of what kind of animal it is. What he did wasn't only cruel to the kittens, but it was emotionally cruel to his ex-girlfriend. Some people are very attached to their pets. It takes a special type of evil to kill a person's pets like that.

[greenbriar]

17. if anyone hurt my kitty, I would be hard to control

I love my kitteh

[StarryNite]

20. Yeah, I don't see how anybody

that isn't mentally sick could justify this. I have to wonder if he had taken a hammer to her car if that would have outraged the ones on here who are excusing this sick behavior.

[Lorien]

58. Those excusing it are sick themselves

they should seek professional help.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

89. Seeking attention - even negative attention - can be a sign of mental illness

Sometimes when a person says irrational things to force others to notice them there is an underlying cause. A need that's not being met in their life.

[Raejeanowl]

123. It's A Pathological Thing

Like lying.

[Lorien]

55. My father worked as a psychologist for a state prison system

and yes, most serial killers did start out by torturing and killing animals-most often pets. The fact that he did this to his girlfriend's kittens makes it even more psychotic. Obvious sociopath.

[physioex]

74. Ohh you are right......

He can't differentiate right from wrong. A definite threat to society.

[Rex]

86. It is a good thing they caught this now, because he would be killing a person

next. I hope he gets the help he needs.

[Skip Intro]

94. I'd like to meet that asshole in some back yard somewhere with a hammer in my hand.

Jail is too good for the sadistic fuck.

[Kool Kitty]

118. Thank you. That's the way I feel about this-

you said it better than I could have.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

95. I just got physically ill. If I were to be in arm's reach of this cretin,

I would exact a similar fate... :grr:

[greenbriar]

98. my hubbys best friend is an employee of the prison where this fuck

is likely to end up :)

[StarryNite]

101. I hope he ends up there for a very

l-o-n-g time. He is a threat to society. Most serial killers start off on animals.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

109. I still can not wrap my mind around such cruelty...

it is unfathomable to me.

[Carnea]

111. I'm not in favor of the death penalty

But I hear the fences at the San Francisco zoo are kinda short....

[jody]

124. The personal attacks against me in this thread are laughable. Have a good day to all. n/t

[DRoseDARs]

129. Well, if you post bullshit, you're going to be called out on it. n/t

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

135. It's only a personal attack if it's not provably true. -nt

[Snarkturian Clone]

157. This is totally off the topic...

that graphic is hilarious!!!

[Zuiderelle]

139. You like the attention, don't you?

Or you wouldn't have bothered posting this bit.

[GreenPartyVoter]

130. They say the next step from torturing and killing animals is serial killing of humans

This guy has some major problems and could very well be a danger to society.

(And I weep for teh poor bebby kittehs! :cry:)

[Jack Rabbit]

132. This is really disturbing to me right now

Please click here.

[mnhtnbb]

136. The best cats we've ever had--Simba and Mouse--are now 12 years old.

I got them from the original little old cat lady who'd put an ad in the paper for free kittens.
When I went to her house there were cats everywhere! Our two cats were born several days apart
in two different litters, but had been raised together.

They have been best buddies their whole lives. They groom each other, play together, and before
the fire that burned down our house last year(cats were put out every night and that's why they survived), would often be found curled up sleeping together in the same living room chair during the day.

What an a$$hole this guy is. He had no right. Period. Even if he thought the girlfriend couldn't find homes for them, they could have tried.

I hope they throw the book at him.

BTW, both Simba and Mouse have been neutered.

[My Good Babushka]

140. Smooshed cats 139 replies

Generations of birth defects by U.S. munitions garners 3 replies?

[Snarkturian Clone]

158. Welcome to DU? NT

[Dorian Gray]

141. Psychopath...

[backscatter712]

146. This guy should be put down like a mad dog.

You can't fix psychopaths like this. You can't keep your eyes off of them, you can never, ever trust them in society.

Either put him in a cage, or put him in a box.

[frickaline]

148. I hope he's mentally ill

How could anyone do this while sane.

[Brigid]

149. This thread is not about abortion.

It's not about animals being killed for food. It's about a psychopath who murdered helpless creatures for kicks. I don't know how much time he can get for this, but I hope he gets the max. :grr:

[Deja Q]

154. I'd normally make a crass joke about banging pussies, but right now that would be too low.

That guy is sick - he's a pussy and someone should bang HIM with a hammer.

[lightningandsnow]

155. That's awful.

I hate people who abuse animals. And children.

I mean, how can you hurt something that's so innocent?

Stories like this make me sick.

:cry:

[and-justice-for-all]

159. Can I take a hammer to that fucks head!! nt

[greenbriar]

160. please

.