AP: US Has Photographic Evidence Of Genital Torture Of Gitmo Prisoner

[kpete]

U.K. rights group: U.S. has photographic evidence of torture
Updated 1d 17h ago

LONDON (AP) — The U.S. government has photographic evidence that a Guantanamo Bay inmate was tortured with a knife after being taken to Morocco by U.S. forces, a British human rights group said Tuesday.

Reprieve said their client, Binyam Mohamed, had his genitals slashed repeatedly with a doctor's scalpel while in custody in Morocco after he was flown there from Pakistan by American officials in 2002. It also said his U.S. captors later took pictures of the abuse to show authorities that his wounds were healing.

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Reprieve quoted Mohamed as saying that an American female photographed his wounds before he boarded a plane in the Moroccan city of Rabat on the night of Jan. 21, 2004.

more at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-06-10-torture_N.htm

[truebrit71]

1. Just reading that makes me wince...

...They did a piece on this guy's case on Newsnight last Friday on BBC America...with today's SCOTUS ruling I wonder what will happen to him...it cetanly sounded like there was some stuff going on that neither the Pentagon nor the Home Office are too eager about seeing the light of day...

[Mabus]

4. Here's a link to a BBC story on this.

At first I winced. Now I'm sick to my stomach.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7437345.stm

His lawyers also believe the government has proof that Mr Mohamed's genitals were repeatedly slashed with a razor blade while he was being held in Morocco.

[EFerrari]

2. Stafford Smith put this into the Congressional record

the last time he testified. I don't notice that oversight committee doing anything about it. :shrug:

[eShirl]

3. just a college prank

:sarcasm:

[DefenseLawyer]

5. Hey they used a scalpel, just like Dr. Mengele

I'm sure it was all in the name of science and the fatherland.

[Brundle_Fly]

6. IMPEACHMENT IS OFF THE TABLE....

I am still awaiting a good reason why...

[DefenseLawyer]

7. It's too late

Impeachment is essentially a political tool, and at this point it would just be symbolic. Bush has too little time left for impeachment to have any real impact on the office of the President. They should answer for their crimes, but it's too late for impeachment.

[kas125]

8. Nixon took three months, Clinton took two. The crimes these

people committed are on video. They have been on television admitting to them. If they wanted to do it, they could read what the law says then show the videos and it could be done in a day.

They aren't doing it because they are complicit in the crimes. Their excuse is ensuring that we win the election, but what they fail to see is the big picture. Whatever happens, history will record this congress as the most corrupt or the most inept, I'm not sure which yet, maybe both. For them to choose that their legacy be that they were the appeasers and enablers of liars, torturers, and treasonous criminals seems like lunacy to me.

[DefenseLawyer]

9. Impeachment only removes someone from office

It doesn't "punish" anyone for their "crimes".

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. You sure you are a lawyer? Serious.

Impeachment does not remove anybody, it is AN INDICTMENT equivalent to a grand jury indictment

The SENATE CONVICTS

And after removal you can proceed with regular trials

As long as the president is president... he cannot be touched by the legal system

[Moochy]

13. no kidding

so many anti-impeachment drones flocking here since the right-wing radio's Parlorphone started cranking up this Anti-Kucinich rhetoric. I guess DK is on to something.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Well, in his defense, though he should know better

since there is a course in Constitutional Law that is kind of mandatory even at the worst of the schools of law... most folks don't know squat about HOW impeachment actually happens

[Raksha]

30. I've noticed the sudden increase in the anti-impeachment drones too

over the past few days. Interesting timing--it seems to be an increase in both numbers and volume.

[DefenseLawyer]

21. You got me, Chief.

I should have said "the impeachment process", as you are technically correct, the "impeachment" in the house of representatives does not remove the official from office. However, if you are suggesting that the "trial" that takes place in the Senate is tantamount to a "regular trial", as you say, or that the "conviction" results in a criminal conviction, then sorry, you don't know what you are talking about. The only punishment other than removal from office is to be barred from holding further elected office. Serious.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Didn't say that chief

But the Impeachment is the the equivalent to a grand jury and the trial is a trial... though not truly a criminal trial

But it does the following things

PREVENTS any member of the executive from EVER again working in any job in the federal, state or local governments, yes even dog catcher

It will also take away any pensions they may or may not be entitled to

It also ALLOWS for subsequent follow up by the JUDICIAL SYSTEM

But I am sure you knew that chief.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. BINGO, we call it collusion

or crimes by either commission or omission

[hootinholler]

10. Except for pardons, and executive privlege claims.

SO if we want to actually hold them accountable and find out what really happened, it is essential even if it's ex-post facto.

-Hoot

[crickets]

16. Exactly. -nt

[DefenseLawyer]

23. I'm not against holding them accountable

I just don't think the impeachment process is the best way to proceed in 2008. Were it 2003-2006, I would be of a different opinion.

[hootinholler]

26. You're a lawyer?

Hello? Nixon ring a bell? That whole Warren Commission sitting pal Ford gives him a pardon. Ends the investigations?

How much evidence is buried under executive privilege? Not only against members of the administration but against the corporate masters as well. Hell opening the minutes of the Energy meetings to a grand jury alone would bring down a lot of people.

-Hoot

[DefenseLawyer]

27. The congress has subpoena power

and oversight power under the Constitution to investigate, to challenge in court any claim of executive privilege, and to demand testimony and evidence. All this can be done without using the impeachment process apparatus. As for pardons, actually, most scholars believe that the Constitution would allow President Bush to pardon himself, prior to being removed from office, so I'm not sure how beginning an impeachment proceeding prevents that possibility.

I look at it like this, if you have an employee that is scheduled to retire, and a week before he leaves you discover he has been stealing from you for years. Is it really punishment to fire him when he only had a week left? Wouldn't it be better to call the police and prosecute? And yes, you can do both. But what does the firing really accomplish that the prosecution can't?

[hootinholler]

29. Hell yes you fire his ass!

Fired for cause should eliminate your obligation to retirement funds, especially when there are actual crimes involved. Plus it would strengthen a case to seize assets would it not?

How have those congressional subpoenas worked? The contempt citations referred to the DOJ? How about the FOIA against Cheney's energy group meeting?

It's about discovery, surely you can grok that.

-Hoot

[librechik]

15. impeachment can continue after the end of any administration

There's no hurry at all. And just imagine the effect of the hearings, with tales of Bush atrocities and the lame excuses of Republicans, will have on the elections. I refuse to believe that citizens will think it a waste of time. They know he is a criminal. (All but the most deluded few) And due to the veto & filibuster, we can't do much of anything else anyway!

[lonestarnot]

20. Oh no it's not!

[Echo In Light]

17. “We do not torture,” George W. Bush

[JCMach1]

41. Yet another thing we outsource

[BlooInBloo]

18. I guess this would be the wrong time to say "this thread is worthless without pics"?

:hide:

[frickaline]

19. disgusting ... I can't wait for the spin of 'how this isn't torture'

[Indenturedebtor]

22. Please they won't even bother with spin... they'll just ignore it

Or mention it at 4:00 AM EST once, and never again. I guarantee the report will start with the word "Allegedly...".

[Echo In Light]

25. Precisely. The War Pigs can always count on M$M's unwavering servitude and obedience

[Indenturedebtor]

28. They are the same machine

Not even seperate entities anymore.

Have you heard Cake's remake of Warpigs?

It's pretty good.

[yurbud]

31. k & r

[Wizard777]

32. That's a violation of the Geneva Convention. POW's cannot be transfered to anyone who does not abide

by the GC.

[Hart2008]

33. I met a man who was tortured in Morocco.

He was a Christian and for that he was tortured by muslims.

They forced sea water down his throat while repeatedly clapping their hands against his ears.

His eardrums are scarred now.

Sick place, and these are our allies on Junior's war on terra?

Sick.

[otherlander]

34. I HATE THESE PEOPLE!

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE THEM!!! WANT THEM TO DIE AND FUCKING BURN IN HELL! WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS GET THE PRIVILEGE OF LIVING?
:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:

[sattahipdeep]

35. Cheney A man of mettle and vision.

[dmr]

40. Yeah, and McCain would like that mettle & vision in his administration

What kind of sick shit is that? McCain: "I will strongly assert to you that he (Cheney) has been of enormous help to this president of the United States... I don't know if I would want him as vice president. He and I have the same strengths. But to serve in other capacities? Hell, yeah."

Who else can best follow through on that creative 2001 energy policy?

Like the poster above: I HATE THEM I HATE THEM :grr: HATE :grr: HATE :grr: HATE :grr: HATE! :grr:

And I've never hated a human being in my life, until about 8 years ago ....

Maybe those silly pranksters in the WH would like to use that genital-scalpel photo to practice amongst themselves ... they can tell Timmy all about their fun come Sunday morning. Shoot, I might even break down and watch it.

[Turn CO Blue]

36. Realize, too, that this is not just torture. This was rape and torture.

And the U.S. forces, the soldiers or marines who did this are rapists as well as torturers. And to have a female take the pictures of this man Mohamed, amounts to public humiliation (for not respecting his privacy and Muslim faith) on top of these crimes.

[reprehensor]

37. I'm so not ok with that.

Ever seen this?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yBKHI1ef3W4

[Ysabel]

38. this hurts my body hurts when other people are hurt...

[SalmonChantedEvening]

39. .

see sigline.

[Solly Mack]

42. Anyone in the US government pretending to be shocked by this

is just that...pretending.

[countryjake]

43. Kick!