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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:01 PM
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Molly Ivins: where is a copyright-free photo available?
Wiki has no photo of her. Surely one (preferably, not an unflattering one) is out there?
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:04 PM
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1. How about this one...
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:05 PM
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3. That's verifiably uncopyrighted, or copyright elapsed? TIA. nt
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:07 PM
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5. what are you using it for?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:37 PM
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7. Want to volunteer it for her Wiki entry. Currently, no photo. nt
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:04 PM
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2. Just do a google image search.
You'll find plenty of photos.

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:06 PM
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4. Molly Ivins died of cancer in 2007
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:07 PM
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6. That doesn't mean photos of her are in the public domain and
without copyrights of the photographer.


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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 04:23 PM
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8. I don't understand your point I just posted two
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:05 PM
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12. how do you know they are free from copyright
is my point, and the point of the OP.

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 04:55 PM
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9. But it does mean they aren't marked as copyrighted, and the owner is not attempting to protect them.
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 05:02 PM by TexasObserver
If one goes online, finds a photo of Molly that does not have a notation of copyrighting, and they are able to download it, the use of that photo will be unlikely to draw any attention from the photo's owner whatsoever. If the owner of the photo had desired to assert their rights, they would mark the photo as copyrighted and would program the display of the photo in such a manner as could not be downloaded or copied.

Assuming the photo owner learned of the use of the photo, as indicated above, and wanted to assert their ownership, they would have to first issue to the offender a cease and desist letter establishing their rights and bona fides. Then they would have to file a case in a federal court of appropriate jurisdiction, if their request went unanswered.

The reality of enforcing copyright is a far cry from theoretically having such a cause of action. Intellectual property rights require active pursuit and enforcement of such rights by the owner of such properties, and few owners of photos can afford to file and pursue a case in federal court.

The best approach for the author of this thread is to find a photo of Molly he or she likes, and simply get permission in writing from the owner of the photo to use it, as long as credit is given for the photographer. I'm not advocating stealing copyrighted materials, but noting that enforcing copyright is anything but cheap or simple.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:04 PM
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11. They *don't* have to be marked "copyright" in order to retain
copyright.

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:14 PM
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13. Well, duh.
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 05:44 PM by TexasObserver
Maybe you should leave copyright law to those who understand it. Clearly, you don't.

Have you ever tried a single intellectual property case in federal court? No.

Have I? Yes.

Are you sure you want to do this? You can't rebut a single statement in my posts, can you?

Practically everything printed has some copyright rights, but enforcement of copyright is limited to a very, very few cases, and there are requirements upon the owner to enforce those rights, or see them eroded.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:17 PM
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14. Aren't you so very special?

I guess you dispute the point in my post--that it doesn't have to be marked with a copyright in order to retain the rights of the photographer?

Or are you just busy patting yourself on the back about how wonderfully smart you are?



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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:20 PM
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15. copyright law is about enforcement that is economically feasible
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 05:24 PM by TexasObserver
Of course I didn't dispute your point that copyright requires no mark to exist. I pointed out that almost all written and published material has some copyright available to it. But copyright law is about enforcement that is economically feasible. 99.99% of the copyright infringements (or more) never result in any action of any kind by the owner of the copyrighted materials.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:31 PM
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16. LOL. As I thought, then.
Your post was just an exercise in "look at me."

The OP was looking for a non-copyrighted photo to upload to Wiki, which has certain rules about uploading photos.

But I'm sure we are all duly impressed with your treatise on economic feasibility of copyright infringement actions. Hahahaha.




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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:39 PM
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17. Let me know when you need educating on some other topic.
You cannot prevail on the merits or your skill, so you resort to lying.

I advised the OP to seek written permission from the owner of the photo he or she wanted to use. You see, that's what real lawyers do. They offer advice on how to accomplish a task at hand. You failed to do that, because you don't know how. So kindly stop lying about the advice I gave the OP.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:42 PM
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19. Thanks, it looks like this may be solved through Creative Commons licensing. nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:00 PM
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10. Would this work?
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 05:00 PM by Bluebear

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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:40 PM
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18. Probably! It's Creative Commons License, which is what Wiki uses. Thanks! nt
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