Raven
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Thu Jun-12-08 03:46 PM
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Would you die to protect our Constitution? |
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The question came to me as I was reading about Justice Scalia's dissent. How far are we willing to go to protect the rights that we enjoy in this Country? Bush and Scalia apparently think that fear trumps the Constitution. I happen to think that the Constitution is worth protecting with my life and limbs but that is an entirely abstract thought. I wonder what I would do if there was a gun to my head.
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Thu Jun-12-08 03:50 PM
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1. This is what we are supposed to do when we go to war, however, |
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when the war is against the Constitution we shouldn't die for them no matter how much BushCo pushes it on our military as their duty.
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Thu Jun-12-08 03:51 PM
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2. I fear this will not be a question for an internet board |
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but one that will become very real soon....
Yes, we are coming to a hedge
And to answer your question. YES
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Thu Jun-12-08 03:53 PM
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3. I struggle with the question of whether or not I could kill for the Constitution (outside of a war). |
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Thu Jun-12-08 03:55 PM
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4. I work for the county of Santa Barbara, I had to swear an oath to protect the |
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Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 03:56 PM by Mountainman
citizens of Santa Barbara County, defend the Constitution of the State of California and the Constitution of the United States.
So did the person who gives out marriage licenses in Kern County (a red part of CA). She says she will not issue any marriage licenses now so that she doesn't have to issue licenses to gay couples.
If there were a disaster county employees must serve were ever called by the county on our own time. For instance, if a Katrina hit here we would have to go to work for how ever long it takes to do what ever we are asked to do.
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Thu Jun-12-08 03:56 PM
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5. The question is too simplified |
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Without more of a scenario I really can't answer that.
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:01 PM
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7. It is in the context of Scalia's statement that many Americans |
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will die because the Court ruled that detainees have Constitutional rights. I guess I was musing that if we were told to grant those rights or die, would be grant them?
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Thu Jun-12-08 03:57 PM
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6. Honestly, I'd try to leave the country, first. |
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There's plenty of other healthy places in the world to raise a family.
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:38 PM
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16. I have daydreamed many times . . . |
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Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 04:39 PM by Brigid
about leaving this country during the Bush regime. I hear Canada is nice. But I do think the Constitution is worth defending -- from people like Scalia. The threats he has uttered are the same crap we've been hearing for almost eight years now.
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:03 PM
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Sorry, just being honest. I like breathing.
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:04 PM
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9. Is life so dear, or peace so sweet... |
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...as to be purchased at the price of chains or slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take but as for me; give me liberty or give me death!
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:06 PM
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:15 PM
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11. If I would have I guess I fail this one. |
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it's already been screwn and I saw the whole thing happen.
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:17 PM
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12. That's why I never understood pledging allegiance to a flag versus the Constitution. |
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When you pledge, you are promising to give up your life in exchange for defending this country. And the Constitution is the lifeblood of this country, not a symbol.
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:28 PM
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13. Why should I? Not even the leaders of the political party I belong to... |
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will live to protect the constitution.
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:29 PM
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14. Yes. (And, I'm not in the military.) |
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:31 PM
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15. Die? Or, kill? For a piece of paper or a scrap of cloth? Hell, no. |
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:45 PM
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I would give my life to save an American, but I'd also give my life to save most anyone else's. I feel it's arrogant of me to say that my piece of paper is any holier than theirs. That's not to say that it's not an important piece of paper, or that there need to be people that are willing to give their life for it. Without them, our country would not be as great as it is, and I wouldn't put faith that other people of the world would be as gracious as I would try to be.
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:46 PM
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18. No way. I barely feel a connection to the concept of a "country". nt |
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Thu Jun-12-08 04:47 PM
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19. I took an oath - twice - in the 60s to "preserve, protect, and defend" it. |
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Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 04:52 PM by TahitiNut
So, I already have had my life on the line. How about if others share that burden? As long as we have ANYONE putting their lives on the line, in service to 'We The People,' then it seems that it's only fair and equitable that others share that service. As long as 'We The People,' as sovereigns over our democratic republic, call for and pay taxes to maintain such people "standing in harm's way" and, as sovereigns, permit and allow them to be deployed in the manner they have by a "Public Servant" ... then, yes, every person should be sharing that task. Every. Person. Without exception. Male, Female, Gay, Straight. Every.
Until we make it obsolete, share the burden of service. Simple.
Yes ... I understand why people don't. I've heard it all.
I will again say that we're a nation of cowards and criminals. The FACT that this criminal cabal continues to inhabit the corridors of OUR government despite their war crimes and crimes against OUR Constitution is PROOF that we're a nation of cowards and criminals. We have no honor and no integrity unless and until we stand up for justice and equity.
Unless there's something worth dying for ... there's nothing worth living for.
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Thu Jun-12-08 07:30 PM
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20. I think there are many "long time DU'ers" who are already "dying" to protect Constitution.. |
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Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 07:31 PM by KoKo01
Some have already passed on...and more of us are going to have health problems from the stress of it.
That's what I've observed on my years here. Many others "get the granite chicklet." ...for being "Socialist/Agitators," who somehow "cross the line" when RW Trolls LIVE... Just my 2 cents, of course.
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Thu Jun-12-08 07:37 PM
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21. I was honorably discharged a long time ago, but continue to fight |
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daily. So as an honorably discharged veteran w/o being called up, that would be dishonorable and unlawful, besides the Constitution has been reduced to a GD piece of paper. :smoke:
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Thu Jun-12-08 07:40 PM
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22. I would die to protect the First Amendment |
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I doubt if I would die to protect the Second Amendment, but I'm on record about the first.
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Thu Jun-12-08 08:32 PM
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23. I would stop those trying to kill my loved ones or me |
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And deal with the after effect while those I love are still alive.
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Thu Jun-12-08 08:34 PM
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25. That's what I served in the military for, to protect and defend it. |
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Didn't have to die for it, but you never know when you go in whether you will or not.
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Thu Jun-12-08 08:55 PM
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Why die for something the vast majority of Americans don't care about, take for granted, view it as an obtrusive inconvenience, or dismiss it as a "god damn piece of paper". I'll die protecting myself, my home, and family and friends of good moral conscience, but the rest of clueless middle America can go fuck themselves. They don't deserve the liberties they've squandered away.
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