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baghdad_bush Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 04:41 PM
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Are the illegal immigrants not paying taxes?
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Knight Ridder/Tribune News Service
May 1, 2006

Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think
Eight million illegals pay Social Security, Medicare, and income taxes
By Shikha Dalmia


Denying public services to people who pay their taxes is an affront to America's bedrock belief in fairness. But many "pull-up-the-drawbridge" politicians want to do just that when it comes to illegal immigrants.

The fact that illegal immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two-thirds of illegal immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes. Yet, nativists like Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., have popularized the notion that illegal aliens are a colossal drain on the nation's hospitals, schools and welfare programs — consuming services that they don't pay for.

In reality, the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified illegal immigrants from nearly all means-tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization. The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education.

Nevertheless, Tancredo and his ilk pushed a bill through the House criminalizing all aid to illegal aliens — even private acts of charity by priests, nurses and social workers. Potentially, any soup kitchen that offers so much as a free lunch to an illegal could face up to five years in prison and seizure of assets.

The Senate bill that recently collapsed would have tempered these draconian measures against private aid. But no one — Democrat or Republican — seems to oppose the idea of withholding public services. Earlier this year, Congress passed a law that requires everyone who gets Medicaid — the government-funded health care program for the poor — to offer proof of U.S. citizenship so we can avoid "theft of these benefits by illegal aliens," as Rep. Charlie Norwood, R-Ga., puts it.

But, immigrants aren't flocking to the United States to mooch off the government. According to a study by the Urban Institute, the 1996 welfare reform effort dramatically reduced the use of welfare by undocumented immigrant households, exactly as intended. And another vital thing happened in 1996: the Internal Revenue Service began issuing identification numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don't have Social Security numbers to file taxes.

One might have imagined that those fearing deportation or confronting the prospect of paying for their safety net through their own meager wages would take a pass on the IRS' scheme. Not so. Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers. No doubt they hope that this will one day help them acquire legal status — a plaintive expression of their desire to play by the rules and come out of the shadows.

What's more, aliens who are not self-employed have Social Security and Medicare taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks. Since undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they'll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers — that the Social Security administration stashes in the “earnings suspense file” — added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus. The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year.

Beyond federal taxes, all illegals automatically pay state sales taxes that contribute toward the upkeep of public facilities such as roads that they use, and property taxes through their rent that contribute toward the schooling of their children. The non-partisan National Research Council found that when the taxes paid by the children of low-skilled immigrant families — most of whom are illegal — are factored in, they contribute on average $80,000 more to federal coffers than they consume.

Yes, many illegal migrants impose a strain on border communities on whose doorstep they first arrive, broke and unemployed. To solve this problem equitably, these communities ought to receive the surplus taxes that federal government collects from immigrants. But the real reason border communities are strained is the lack of a guest worker program. Such a program would match willing workers with willing employers in advance so that they wouldn't be stuck for long periods where they disembark while searching for jobs.

The cost of undocumented aliens is an issue that immigrant bashers have created to whip up indignation against people they don't want here in the first place. With the Senate having just returned from yet another vacation and promising to revisit the stalled immigration bill, politicians ought to set the record straight: Illegals are not milking the government. If anything, it is the other way around.

Shikha Dalmia is a senior analyst at Reason Foundation, a free-market think tank. This column was originally distributed by the Knight Ridder/Tribune News Service

http://www.reason.org/commentaries/dalmia_20060501.shtml
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 04:43 PM
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1. And they don't benefit from many of those taxes either.
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 04:44 PM by Cleita
Employers know that they'd better collect and report those taxes or the IRS will be a far worse enemy than the INS.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 04:59 PM
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2. They said the same thing about blacks before the 60s
Which is why blacks were excluded from many social programs.

Pretty revolting.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:01 PM
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3. I know three undocuimented workers...
and they have Medicare and SS taken out of their paychecks, just like I do at my job. And, unless they aquire legal status, they will never see that money again. None of them complain about the taxation.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:03 PM
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4. That's what W-7 numbers are for.
Undocumented immigrants get a W-7 number that allows them to file state, local, federal income taxes, just like everyone else.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:04 PM
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5. Reason - the Libertarian source for bullshit
:nuke:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:04 PM
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6. Give them amnesty, they'll pay as much as anybody else.
:shrug:
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:09 PM
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7. No SS, FICA is being paid
by illegal immigrants if their SS number is kicked back as being invalid. It is usually worth it for the employer to just take the tax hit on the salary they are paying out because it is more cost-effective than hiring someone legitimately here and paying the payroll taxes, workers compensation and insuring them.

I don't think that these people should be turned away from schools and hospitals, however, I think we should collect the fees from their home country. The government of Mexico should be billed, any aid we sent them should have those costs deducted. Esp. since Mexico is the chief beneficiary of their people being here illegally. They send the bulk of their earnings back there.

They do pay sales taxes for whatever they purchase. Some states fund their schools through the sales taxes.

I know someone who hires two undocumented workers and that is what he does. Soon, he will be bid out of his own jobs by them and will have himself to blame.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:29 PM
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8. On the other hand...
Let's take a look at these wealthy "Real Americans", shall we?

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2008-06-11-taxes_N.htm
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:38 PM
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9. Only if employers don't withhold it
and that's a violation against the employer, not the worker.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:42 PM
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10. America's bedrock belief in fairness..... WHAT??
Fairness is nice and all but its *not* Americas bedrock belief... That would be liberty
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