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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:19 AM
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Poll question: Impeach Pelosi?
The petition to remove Pelosi is nice and everything, but don't we already have one with 250,000+ asking for hearings? Screw this. She is complicit, she is also sworn to protect the Constitution and she has violated that oath.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:20 AM
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1. No. k+r n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:22 AM
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2. She swore to uphold the U.S. Constitution.


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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:27 AM
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3. She is a fine Democrat. She has helped mitigate the last two years of Bush.
What do you expect? An instant transformation?

Impeachment, if it happened, would lose in the senate.

Meaning Bush would be absolved of his crimes. He would leave the Senate with an acquittal.

How is that holding him accountable?

/Not to mention the seats lost in the election.
//And the four more years of Bush policy with McCain.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:39 AM
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6. I think the problem is her publicly stating no impeachment
She shouldnt take that stand as the Dem leader of the House.

Using her position to influence the House members on a matter of defending the Constitution shouldnt be acceptable.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:56 AM
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15. Was Clinton "absolved of his crimes" or did he leave with a stain on his record?
No pun intended. You have no way of knowing whether the Senate would actually acquit. But even if he was acquitted, it would be nice to show the world that we at least TRIED and that we still believe in our own Constitution.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:33 AM
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4. There is no impeachment process for members of Congress.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:35 AM
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5. That won't stop the Dem bashers. I say tombstone them!
Let them go back to the freeper boards.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:43 AM
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8. Sorry to say this, but she is not doing her job
and she is not because of the secret prison tour of 2002

Facts is not bashing
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:51 AM
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12. She is doing her job. People disagree on how she should do her job
and that is no excuse for the sort of innuendo a Pat Robertson uses.

There are a bunch of disruptive posters here going outside the bounds of reason.
I'm taking exception to their bashings, not to the facts.
For example, fact is you can't impeach a Congress person.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:57 AM
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16. My oops N/T
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 12:57 AM by DJ13


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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:58 AM
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17. ME TOO!!
SEND THEM TO SIBERIA!

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:42 AM
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7. You cannot impeach a member of congress... or the senate
you can only vote them out

Now this is california, and a recall of a FEDERAL official has never been tried, and I can bet it would end in the USSC
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:48 AM
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10. Whatever, she can be sent HOME!
That's what the original Revolution was fought for and by God, I can refuse to pay the salary of a official who does not do my bidding.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:55 AM
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14. only by failing to reelect her or having expelled from the house
and she'll handily win re-election and she'll never be expelled.

How you guys can hate Pelosi with such passion and love Obama and Howard Dean, who share the same position she does, is just insane.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:25 PM
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24. I don't hate a soul on this planet,
Mr. Funk. Not even *. I am sadly disappointed in Ms. Pelosi, however. It's not Obama's place to do a thing about her, either at this point in time.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:04 AM
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19. Legally you can vote her out
her challenger didn't even get 12%

People bitch and moan but they don't vote for challengers

Incidentally mine got 10%

That is the only way that legally you can send her home, and I am all but pleased with Madam Speaker

So be ready to vote against her if you live in her district, or donate heavily to challengers, or she retires
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:26 PM
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25. I don't live in her district
but I am very pleased with Mike Thompson who is my Congressman after his 'Yea' vote on DK's Resolution.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:05 AM
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23. She just won her primary 89%-11% last week
In the November, there are only joke candidates running against her:

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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:50 AM
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11. It's Been Tried -- Unsuccessfully
There was a move to "recall" Dianne Feinstein when she was first elected to the Senate. Outcome: the big Zip. The CONSTITUTION sets the only requirements for federal office. The California constitution, which includes the recall mechanism, has NO APPLICABILITY.

When the initiative backers heard that (it was in 1992, I believe), they dropped their effort.

The Framers set up the House so elections would be only every two years -- the only realistic remedy, short of the House voting to remove a member, is voting them out of office.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:05 AM
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20. EXACTLY , either that or they retire or they die while in office
now I think that if that was tried again, it would end in the USSC...

By the way... on a logistics matter, do you have an extra million? That is what it takes on average to do this.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:46 AM
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9. Hell YES!
If she won't respect and uphold the Constitution she SWORE to uphold, send her the hell home!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:53 AM
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13. No.... she is doing what she thinks is best for the Dem Party
Too many negs distracts from the real focus....get the White House to turn Blue
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:59 AM
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18. She can not be impeached but
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 01:01 AM by seemslikeadream
if she is complicit in war crimes then what?

oh and btw she has no constitutional power to stop impeachment
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:06 AM
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21. Exactly.
She only said impeachment is off the table, as Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Remember when she said she voted for John Murtha to be Majority Leader?

Remember?

She knows that as Speaker, she has to be "above the fray" and that other Congressmen/women will vote the way they want.

Hell, as far as I can see, no one has yet to vote for or against impeachment.

Yet.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:01 AM
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22. she hasn't violated any oath, she has done nothing unlawful.
she is complicit in nothing.
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