True Justice

[H2O Man]

"Perhaps the most amazing thing to me about the belief of many that George Bush lied to the American public in starting his war with Iraq is that the liberal columnists who have accused him of doing this merely make this point, and then go to the next paragraph in their columns. Only very infrequently does a columnist add that because of it Bush should be impeached. That’s almost too self-evident to state. But he deserves much more than impeachment. I mean, in America, we apparently impeach presidents for having consenual sex outside of marriage and trying to cover it up. If we impeach presidents for that, then if the president takes the country to war on a lie where thousands of American soldiers die horrible, violent deaths and over 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, including women and children, even babies are killed, the punishment obviously has to be much, much more severe. That’s just common sense. If Bush were impeached, convicted in the Senate, and removed from office, he’d still be a free man, still be able to wake up in the morning with his cup of coffee and freshly squeezed orange juice and read the morning paper, still travel widely and lead a life of privilege, still belong to his country club and get standing ovations whenever he chose to speak to the Republican faithful. This, for being responsible for over 100,000 horrible deaths? For anyone interested in true justice, impeachment alone would be a joke for what Bush did."
--Vincent Bugliosi; The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder; pages 82-83.

[Klukie]

1. I sense that the fear of this bully is fading.......

and with the courage of those such as Dennis Kucinich maybe justice will prevail. I have hope.

[lonestarnot]

2. Me too!

[HughMoran]

3. Yes, I wonder how true justice can be meted out to this most horrific of mass-murderers

Impeachment is almost too good for him. The only solace I see in impeaching him is that the sooner he is a civilian, the sooner he can be tried for war-crimes. In the end it might be argued that impeachment was his punishment and thus he would be pardoned for his crimes - this would indeed make impeachment alone a joke.

[Octafish]

4. War Criminals should not get off, scot-free.

Then, that's what Grampa Prescott and the Dulles brothers helped the NAZIs do in '45.

Thanks for posting the citation from Bugliosi's latest, H20 Man. May the Truth hurt those who deserve it.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

12. Otherwise, there's no deterring their return and committing even greater crimes.

After all, wars are profitable and no one's stopping lies leading to them.

[mopinko]

5. impeachment is too good for him, but

it's a start.
if we fail, tho, it is a ticket to the hague. failure to be punished in their own country is step #1.

[EOTE]

6. 100,000 deaths? Isn't he off by about an order of magnitude? NT

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[ColbertWatcher]

8. There's that site to marry a Canadian...

...Hook-a-Canuck.com (from Michael Moore's SiCKO)

[MTPF]

10. Too close to the US of Fascism

Probably next on our list after Venezuela! :scared:

[smoogatz]

11. I can pretty much guarantee you that won't happen.

I can also pretty much guarantee you that Bush will issue blanket pardons to himself, Cheney and the rest of the inner circle in secret before he walks out of the Oval Office for the last time.

[MTPF]

13. I don't think a president can pardon himself

[smoogatz]

15. There was much discussion of this during the Clinton impeachment.

My impression was/is tat, under the law, a sitting president can pardon anyone for anything, including himself. Or, he could pardon Cheney, resign, and then Cheney would pardon him. One way or another, they'll fix it so they're immune from prosecution in the U.S.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

9. I agree. Defrauding this nation to wage unilateral war resulting in mass death and debt,...

,...should be a crime punishable by more than mere impeachment!!!

[Solly Mack]

14. I agree

he and a good deal of his cabinet should die in prison...of old age

[SalviaBlue]

16. Bush should be prosecuted for Murder. Impeachement is not enough.

Thank you H2O Man

Nominated

[windoe]

17. And what is the price to pay for destroying two nations?

America is in a free fall, and Iraq is unrecognizable to what it once was. Lives lost, AND two nations plundered of all of their money. True justice involves seizing all the illegal assets, to be used in rebuilding the infrastructures of the damaged countries. I am concerned that this 'lost' money will fund a future rise of these organizations, once our amnesia sets in once more.

[Prophet 451]

18. "impeachment alone would be a joke for what Bush did"

Fully agreed but it would be a good start.

[antigop]

19. So what does Bugliosi write after that? He should be tried for war crimes? n/t

[DemReadingDU]

20. Yes, true justice

"impeachment alone would be a joke for what Bush did"

Bush, Cheney, the whole gang. They need to be rounded up, and prosecuted. From your previous thread, Vincent Bugliosi for the prosecutor.