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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:43 AM
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Nurse got arrested after pulling cop from burning car
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 11:43 AM by NNN0LHI
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-federal_jury_verdictjun13,0,4630555.story

Chicago and police officers lose case and $7.7 million for false arrest

Woman pulled cop from wrecked car in 2002, but police said she stole service weapon


By Monique Garcia and David Heinzmann | Tribune reporters
11:07 PM CDT, June 12, 2008

A trained nurse, Rachelle Jackson immediately ran toward the sound of the crash. A Chicago police car had collided with another vehicle and was starting to smoke, two officers still inside. Fearing an explosion, she quickly pulled one officer from the passenger side.She never imagined her act of kindness nearly six years ago would land her in jail for more than 10 months on charges that she robbed, battered and disarmed a peace officer.

Jackson filed a lawsuit, and on Thursday a federal jury found against the city and several Chicago police officers, awarding Jackson $7.7 million for false arrest, malicious prosecution, coercive questioning and intentional infliction of emotional distress. snip

Instead, Jackson was accused of the theft. She was held for two days with little food and water and was threatened with violence until she agreed to sign a statement police had prepared for her. She was then charged and spent more than 10 months in the Cook County Jail awaiting trial.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:44 AM
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1. WTF is wrong with people? nt
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:45 AM
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2. what an insane case
and what happended to a speedy trial, 10 months in jail? What was the bond?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:45 AM
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3. WTF is wrong with the police?
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:06 AM
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45. They are criminals - they had to be protecting something with their strong "offense"
When bullshit happens, there's always a reason.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:46 AM
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4. Wow. You just can't make this shit up.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:46 AM
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5. Was Race a part of the story?? Just askin....
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:10 PM
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19. there`s a reall good chance the cops were white
a lot depends on the district
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:46 AM
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51. I'd bet so. Rachelle is from the southside, which at least *was* the Black ghetto
and, while names aren't an entirely reliable guide, "Kelly Brogan" sure sounds unmixed Mick to me.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:46 AM
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:47 AM
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7. What's the "take away" from this? Don't rescue cops? nt
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:50 AM
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8. I guess Chicago police must like the idea of being left in burning cars.
What sort of dumb schmuck would lift a finger to help a police officer after this?
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:55 AM
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13. Seriously, and I don't even want to call them to help me
I might end up being the perp in their eyes. They always treat you like a criminal no matter what.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:51 AM
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9. I can't wait to hear the cop bunnies explain away this one. n/t
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:52 AM
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10. The Chicago Police make the Detroit Police look downright honest
My brother was driving me, my sister and my mom from Grand Rapids to O'Hare, and we got pulled over on the Dan Ryan-he was driving 55 in a 50 zone, and hadn't seen the sign when we got on the Dan Ryan from the Skyway. The cop asked my brother if he had a bail bond on him, and my brother said no. The cop then told him he hoped my brother like bologna sandwiches, because that's what they are serving in jail. My brother told him, man, I'm just driving my mom and my sisters to the airport. The cop asked him if that was his mom in the car, and when my brother said yes, he let him go.

He was shaking my brother down for a bribe, until he realized his mom was with him.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:52 AM
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11. Moral of the story, let 'em burn.
Yes I know that sounds coldhearted and cruel, but really now, what else can you take away from it? If you're going to do the humane thing, the right thing, and then lose ten months of your life because of it, people are going to take a look at this and say what I just did, let 'em burn.

People bemoan the lack of trust and fear of the police that the public has, but the police have brought these attitudes on themselves. The police need to re-adapt the attitude that they are public servants rather than guards at an outdoor insane asylum. Then they could win back the publics' trust and help, but until then matters will only continue to go downhill, helped by stupid shit like this.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:53 AM
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12. Note to self: if you see a cop in need of help, keep walking. nt
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:55 AM
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14. that's such bullshit
I'm a nurse too and this does hit a nerve. I hope she didn't lose her license while she was incarcerated.

I've seen people in the "real" world who have had issues and have tried to help. I will say though that I always ask them (if they are lucid and awake) "may I help you?" before I touch them. If they aren't awake, you just help them. I'm sure there was no time for such niceities with the threat of an exploding car, but that little question can save you a big headache if the person is alert. I also know MDs and RNs who won't speak up or run to help in these situations because there have been so many lawsuits against medical professionals when they try to help outside of their actual work.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:04 PM
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15.  one million is for staying in the hell hole of the cook county jail
not quite as bad as abu ghraib but close......
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:04 PM
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16. I don't understand the ten months in jail awaiting trial. nt
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:08 PM
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18. it`s cook county
if they wanted to one could disappear in the system longer than that. she probaly could`t find or hire a lawyer to represent her so she may used the defenders office which takes at least ten months to a year....
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:27 PM
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22. That's fairly typical with felony cases. eom
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:07 PM
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17. Those pigs should have their lives ruined.
This story should follow them to their dying days.

They should be completely unable to find any job better than flipping burgers because of their record.

Their wives and kids should leave them, they should lose everything.

They should blow their own brains out because their lives are so miserable.

Fucking pigs.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:12 PM
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20. words fail
talk about ingrate cops!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:15 PM
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21. Well, now I know what to do when I see a cop burning in Chicago
How in the world can cops expect to be trusted when they show none themselves?

Unbelievable.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:28 PM
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23. At least she didn't get charged with murder
About 20 years ago, when I lived in Massachusetts, there was a fire one night in the city where I was living. While at the scene, a cop collapsed. A young Latino guy saw him fall and ran over, realized he wasn't breathing, and started CPR. The other cops didn't see the first guy -- who was in his 20s -- collapse. They ran over, pulled the Latino guy off the cop, and with no further investigation, charged him with assault and murder of a police officer.

The autopsy later showed that the cop had a serious congenital heart disease and had died from a massive heart attack.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:36 PM
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24. Ur-r-r-gh!! n/t
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 12:40 PM
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25. I do not like and do not trust cops
Funny because I was raised to do both.

But my experience has taught me otherwise.

I know one or two good cops, and even they warn me not to trust the cops other than them.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:04 PM
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26. The theft prosecution makes no sense at all. In the middle of an emergency, while saving
the cop's life, how would the nurse have had time to steal the gun and hide it where no one could possibly find it? She was with the cop the whole time, as I understand it. If the others thought she had stolen the gun, didn't they search her to see if she had it?

Am I right to believe that the cop herself might get into some sort of trouble for a missing weapon? If so, might she have accused the rescuer of theft in order to cover her own ass for losing the gun or allowing it to be stolen?

As for that business about the nurse putting the cop into a "full nelson" hold--I call BS. It's not as though cops have never lied about the behavior of one of their victims when their brutality or corruption comes to light. I am thinking of the "combative" diabetic man who was Tased 3 times as he slumped over the wheel of his car, as well as of many of the other cases I have been collecting in a folder on my computer labeled “Police Brutality.”

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:39 PM
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27. The reason she got $7.7M for false arrest is because others looked at this logically as you did
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 01:40 PM by NNN0LHI
I am glad we have people who can do that.

Don
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:40 PM
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28. An expensive lesson for Chicago. n/t
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:41 PM
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29. This gives new meaning to the term "ungrateful wretch"
"Next time I'll just let you burn up, okay?"
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 03:05 PM
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30. defense attorney andrew hale can fuck off and die..
piece of shit.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:17 PM
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31. How much you want to bet she was African-American?
n/t
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:23 PM
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32. I asked that earlier....but where are their pictures/names???
This is insane....now, as the thread shows, peeps not gonna rescue cops...let um burn...pity
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:29 PM
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34. Yep. You think I want to loose 10 months of my life and go through a lawsuit trial,
wasting another 10 months?

Hell NO! And even though I am white, reducing the chance they would do something like that to me, I dare not take the chance.

"Sorry, Coppie, I guess it's just your time."

I'll never forget the first time I saw a cop lie under oath, and having witnessed the event I was 100% certain he was lying. 100%. There could be no mistake.

It shatters the hell out of a person's worldview.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:51 PM
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42. ME ism....Me first...fuck all others....I want MINE...fuck you....this is how many of them THINK/ACT
Its them ME Fellas
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:28 PM
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33. And people think cops would hesitate to round up their neighbors under martial law?
That's a laugh! The sadistic nazi fucks would love shipping their neighbors off to the federal concentration camps. They are scumbags for sure!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:32 PM
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36. Not all of them, but a substantial minority of them, maybe a majority of them.
Believe you me, that's plenty to keep the ones with misgivings in line, especially if the orders came from authority, like the Bushies.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:45 PM
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38. I have seen a lot of police abuse in my time, but this case is outrageous
The jury was fine in awarding such a large sum. Cases like this will only build even more mutual distrust between police forces and communities.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:38 AM
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44. Remember Bosnia and Rwanda: People massacred neighbors with whom
they'd lived peacefully for year.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:32 PM
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35. C students in charge. Can we expect more?
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:53 PM
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39. Precisely! The most dumbed-down scum has been setting the tone
in this country for the last eight years. The soldiers at Abu Ghraib followed their example, as did the rapist contractors in Iraq, the destroyers of evidence, and anyone else who carries authority and a badge and worships those scumbags. The C students are either too stupid or too mean to realize the affect of their amoral leadership.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:10 AM
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43. Applicants are denied if they are better than C students as they can "think" rather than take orders
Disgusting.
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tencats Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:45 PM
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37. The jury found in favor of Rachelle on six claims, as follows
Federal False Arrest - $150,000.00
State False Arrest - $250,000.00
Coercive Questioning - $500,000.00
Length of Confinement - $1,000,000.00
Malicious Prosecution - $2,000,000.00
Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress - $4,000,000.00.

“Officer Brogan’s attempt to jail a woman who rescued her and the
detectives that encouraged Brogan to do so reflects the integrity of the
Chicago Police Department,” said Daniel Alexander, lead attorney
representing Rachelle.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:23 PM
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40. As they say, no good deed should go unpunished.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:27 PM
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41. .
:wtf:


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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:54 AM
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46. Can someone please post a link to a more detailed report on this?
thanks...
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:37 AM
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48. Here you go:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:11 AM
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47. Stupid cops deserve to find work elsewhere.
Woman saves cop and ends up getting tortured like a dog. WTF America?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:55 AM
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49. Chicago has the worst police department....
...with the stupidest cops that I have ever seen. Between Illinois and Texas, there have been more reversals and exonerations of verdicts imposing the death penalties (cases initiated by the Innocence Project), than all of the other states COMBINED.

- K&R!!!
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 03:57 AM
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50. I say the pigs got off easy. I hope at least a dozen had their employment terminated.
Hell, some of them should probably see jail time.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:30 AM
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52. The city wasted a lot of money on the wrongful arrest of someone
Not only the $7.7 million dollar judgment, but figure in the amount of money it took to prosecute her. If I was a taxpayer in Chicago, I'd be pissed at the city.
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