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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:22 PM
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Kucinich: "They Didn't Tell The Truth & All These People Died-Sorry About That-Pass The Grey Poupon"
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 01:29 PM by kpete
In a BuzzFlash Exclusive, Dennis Kucinich Says He's Not Giving Up on Impeachment: Morality and the Law Require It.
Submitted by meg on Fri, 06/13/2008 - 12:11pm.
A BUZZFLASH NEWS ALERT
By Meg White


"This isn't just about impeachment. It's about reorienting our politics to a position which respects morality. Our moral compass needs to be reset here."
-Rep. Dennis Kucinich

In an exclusive interview with BuzzFlash Friday, Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) discussed the 35 articles of impeachment he introduced against President George W. Bush earlier this week. Though the word on the Hill is that the call for impeachment will not go anywhere, the Ohio representative is undeterred.

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"This is a very grave matter that cannot be and will not be swept under the rug by some kind of a legislative trap," he said.

..............

"If we wait, we're licensing further abuses of power. There's been broad concern that this administration could attack Iran. Why should we give them the opening to do so by failing to challenge the lies that they told that took us into war with Iraq?" he asked. "We cannot wait for after the election. We don't know what could happen in the next six months with respect to a further erosion of our democratic process. And what the impeachment process would do would be to have a chilling effect on further abuses of the Constitution and on creating another war."

...........

"Where's our heart here? What is going on that we can't connect with the suffering of other people?" he asked. "We can't say, 'Oh, yeah, we went into a war, they didn't tell the truth and all these people died. Sorry about that. Pass the Grey Poupon.' We can't do that. We cannot become so callous that we don't care that innocent people are killed. This is what's driving me."

"I can't think of any more grave offense than that the people of this country, at a moment of peril in post 9/11, would be lied to in order to get their support for a war," he said. "There's a difference between just being wrong and lying. And there's a pattern of lies here."

...................

much more at:
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/alerts/362
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:28 PM
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1. Hats off to Kucinich
he's fighting the good fight
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:28 PM
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2. K'n'R
:kick:
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:44 PM
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3. The Biggest Balls in Congress
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:53 PM
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6. The best balls in Congress!
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 04:13 AM
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70. Stop objectifying Dennis! This isn't about his balls!
Just leave the poor man's balls alone! Especially when he's out there bustin' his sweet little ass for democracy! :bounce:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 09:01 AM
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80. His Elfin balls are HUGH!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:32 AM
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83. ROFL thanks for that image :) nt
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:47 PM
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4. You'd have to be pretty damn cynical
to believe Dennis is doing this solely to fire up his liberal base into giving campaign contributions.

Sounds to me like a man hell-bent on justice. :thumbsup:
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:49 PM
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5. I wish Kucinich were our nominee
Obama's rhetoric about how Bush had basically done nothing wrong was EXTREMELY disappointing.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 09:22 PM
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60. He said that?? If you have a link I would appreciate it.
Kucinich, he is a true hero to me.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 09:35 PM
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62. Most unfortunately, yes
I better stop passing it around here, though. Some people have misunderstood my valid criticism for attacking the nominee...and that will probably get worse.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-06-28-obama-impeachment_N.htm

Obama, a Harvard law school graduate and former lecturer on constitutional law at the University of Chicago, said impeachment should not be used as a standard political tool.

"I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breaches, and intentional breaches of the president's authority," he said.

"I believe if we began impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunction," he added. "We would once again, rather than attending to the people's business, be engaged in a tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus."
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:48 AM
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65. That was June of 2007.
I hope Obama has seen the light with the new revelations about the high level approval of torture, McClellan's disclosures and other developments over the past year. Kucinich is right. The president must be impeached. We must send a message to future presidents.

The Supreme Court ruling about habeas corpus is about as resounding a condemnation of this president as the Supreme Court can give.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:01 PM
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89. Kucinich couldn't win because he offered substance. Obama offered charisma.
And we all know what really counts in an election...
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:54 PM
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7. Imagine another 100 Kuchs in the Congress ---
My, how different things would be. :(
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But.... Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:12 PM
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13. I would settle for 1 more Kuch in Congress...
if he were heading a certain committee.:evilgrin:
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:28 AM
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81. We are blessed to have even 1 Kuch, the rest are a bunch of sell outs
The reason Pelosi is keeping impeachment off the table is to gain a bigger Dem majority. The plan is working and I would be for it if not for the fact people are DYING for B*SH's LYING.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:55 PM
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8. k&r n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:58 PM
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9. Crazy?
I think not!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:12 PM
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12. Oh, he's crazy
The good kind of crazy, the kind willing to trash his own career and piss off virtually everyone in pursuit of doing the right thing. I'd like to see a few more politicians who are that kind of crazy.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:01 PM
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10. Pass the Grey Poupon -lol
This guy is awesome, plus he has a good sense of humor. Rock on, Dennis!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:02 PM
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11. Dennis is a real patriot and a Truth Seeker nt
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 02:02 PM by goclark
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:16 PM
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14. Crazy little man
Don't misunderstand, that's a slightly awed term of affection. This guy could destroy his career doing this, he's certainly going to piss off virtually everyone but he's going to do it anyway because the pursuit of justice is more important. Gotta respect that.

I especially liked his comment a few days back that if the Judiciary Committee doesn't move on the 35 articles already in play, Dennis will come back with 60. If anyone remembers The Untouchables, that's the Chicago way.
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Debs Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 04:04 AM
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69. GO Dennis
Let Justice be done though the heavens fall.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:36 PM
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15. Bravo Dennis
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 02:41 PM by malaise
You will not be condemned in history like many of your peers.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:37 PM
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16. K&R
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 02:54 PM
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17. Kick because Thomas Jefferson agreed with him too
The tree of liberty needs to be pruned to thrive.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:18 PM
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39. I think this is the quote
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:53 PM
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53. Thank you for the exact quote
even though the sentiment seems to remain the same. :hi:
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 03:25 PM
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18. Replace Pelosi with Kucinich NOW!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 03:28 PM
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19. I still so wish K was the prez.nominee..


"Where's our heart here? What is going on that we can't connect with the suffering of other people?" he asked. "We can't say, 'Oh, yeah, we went into a war, they didn't tell the truth and all these people died. Sorry about that. Pass the Grey Poupon.' We can't do that. We cannot become so callous that we don't care that innocent people are killed. This is what's driving me."

Damn. He has his shit together,Most ethical in congress award goes to Dennis AGAIN!!

He knows what psychopathy is and what abuse of power IS!!!And he knows how to stop it, from ruining this country,and he knows what these fucking neocon bullies need,a come uppance. Pelosi makes me retch,She'd better fucking listen to Kucinich..
I am embarrassed she's so damn spineless and stupid(impeachment off the table WTF!!!)Why Not lay down and let bush and cheney teabag your face than..I would love to grab her by her ears and shake some sense into that empty head of hers and get that cold dead heart to feel and do something other than make that ass sucking sound..

Go K!!!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:23 PM
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31. What a wonderful thing K. as the nominee would be.
Kick and Rec
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #31
46. How About As Next Attorney General? n/t
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:23 PM
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88. Dennis wants a Dept of Peace. Maybe he could develop it
in the Obama Administration. Once we have a Democratic Executive Branch and maintain control of the House and hopefully the Senate, we can have Feingold and Conyers take the reigns of investigation and prosecution of *Co.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:53 PM
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54. I wanted Kucinich. He had positions on 40 issues. Everybody said he had no chance--ears too big.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:22 AM
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63. Excuse me...
I'd put Obama up against him in an "ear off" any day. But regardless of that, yeah, I'll vote Obama, but GODDAMN I wish DK was the nominee!
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 03:33 PM
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20. K&R
D.K. has the heart of a lion and would have made a great president. He may one day yet.
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JBShakes Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 03:38 PM
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21. K&R - And god bless...
that UFO-seein', improbably-hot-chick-marryin', truth-to-power-speakin' little munchkin.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 03:55 PM
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22. That's the best Democrat in Washington speaking.
In my opinion, of course.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:00 PM
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23. K&R for DK! "If we wait, we're licensing further abuses of power"
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:00 PM
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24. Go Dennis !! /eom
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:03 PM
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25. Dennis has the biggest cajones in the Congress!
:yourock:

K & R
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:04 PM
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26. Look out--Will the anti-Kucinich, anti-impeachment spammer
show up soon?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:05 PM
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27. A few such regulars were spewing their big ego venom pretty good this morning
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:48 PM
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34. Spammer? Singular?
Man, look around. They just don't give up, I think they're skeered!

-Hoot
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:08 PM
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28. Thank you, Dennis Kucinich!
I love that man.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:13 PM
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29. HE BELONGS IN THE PANTHEON OF PATRIOTS ALONGSIDE JEFFERSON
and the other founders who believed that the Constitution was what would save this country from tyranny. They were all unafraid to stand against the prevailing powers even though they had everything to lose.

Congressman Kucinich, we are all in your debt. You are an example we should all emulate.


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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:18 PM
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30. "Are you sure you want to recommened this thread?"
FUCK YEAH! :kick:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:28 PM
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32. Go Dennis!
:kick:
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:36 PM
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33. "We don't know what could happen in the next six months ".....
How about the chimp calling off the elections. There is a rumor (a few years ago)that the chimp will stage some sort of terrorist attack at the Repuke convention then try to declare martial law and a "delay" in the election.
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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:10 PM
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36. I've wondered why they chose Minnesota.
they have no business choosing us for their convention. We havent voted Red since 1980 probably. Be pretty cold to whack your own.... maybe Denver instead.
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ann_american2004 Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:41 PM
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43. Reply #33 - naaaa
* will just go back to Crawford and count all that money he's made on the war. His friends will come over for a BBQ and laugh their asses off at us dumb folk. laugh laugh laugh maybe * will kiss his secret picture of Pelosi he keeps by the toilet.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:13 PM
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48. "will kiss his secret picture of Pelosi he keeps by the toilet"
I'm not sure that this primate is only using the picture for kissing.:puke:
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:05 PM
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35. K&R for Dennis
I had to tell the guys at work about the impeachement They hadn't heard it from the mainstream, go figure. I used it as an example of what you miss when you don't use the internet for news. A couple of them still watch CNN and imagine they're well-informed.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:11 PM
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37. I wanted him to be my President sooooo bad....
:cry: because he was ignored out of the running by the 'media'. :woohoo: for his bravery and commitment to doing the right thing. Go Dennis!
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SergeyDovlatov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:14 PM
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38. K&R
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:25 PM
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40. Kucinich is my President!
He stands taller than any of the cowards in Congress who say "impeachment is off the table."
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:36 PM
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41. He will be go down in history as a great patriot! Documenting the lies and misdeeds of this
administration. He is doing our society a great service.

:toast: to Dennis Kucinich.

And to think he came to my hometown 4years ago during his last run for the white house and I didn't go see him. Shame on me.

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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:40 PM
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42. He hit the nail on the head!!
If we give them a pass until after the election, that may be too late. SO glad he mentioned Iran. THAT is the most urgent point here.
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AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:49 PM
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44. go get 'em DK!
:kick:
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FunMe Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:55 PM
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45. Kucinich needs to go after the roadblock: Pelosi!
Pelosi needs to be removed from her role, too!
That political hack is hiding something. She is an ENABLER and also a ACCESSORY to the crimes of george w bush. She too mustbe removed.

Is there anything Dennis can do to get rid of his major roadblock Pelosi?
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:07 PM
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47. I wish
I see she reiterated the maddening off the table statement.

As for Dennis, he makes me want to move to Ohio and settle in his district. We don't see our CongressCritter's face much since it's usually up either the Chimp or Cheney's rear. Dennis is the only one left taking a stand for the people of this country, even though so many are still too blind to realize it. Kooch is the best.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:19 PM
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51. "That political hack is hiding something"
Yes she is.But what could it be ? She've been bribed? Blackmailed? She loves to have sex with baboons and Cheney have a tape ? :shrug:
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TooRaLoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:14 PM
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49. He's amazing.
Impeachment should be ALL OVER THE TABLE.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:16 PM
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50. Again!!! He nails it!!! I LOVE this man!!!
:loveya:

He's just so... right on!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:26 PM
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52. he is right
he is so right that i can't believe he is not getting the support he deserves, the country deserves! it's a true indication of how sick we are at this point in time.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:35 PM
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55. THE BEST WE HAVE IN DC IS DK!
Thank you, Cleveland, for sharing this amazing man with the entire nation.

He is a wonder, an angel, our savior & should be our KING! :loveya:

Maybe some of the dunderheads out there can now figure out how he got such a Hot Young Wife....he's a high-quality guy!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:41 PM
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56. Kick
I love this guy
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:46 PM
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57. People whine that he is jousting at windmills......
well, I say JOUST AWAY, Dennis!!!!!!!

In the words of Winston Churchill: NEVER give up. Never, never, never, never, never give up.
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Matteon Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 09:01 PM
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58. The worst part
is that he is right, and Pelosi knows it.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 09:12 PM
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59. GO DENNIS GO
YES!
:woohoo:
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 09:25 PM
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61. what a great line!
And an effective one, too. If hell froze over and this actually got some air time, the "Grey Poupon" part would be the kind of sound bite--funny but oh so true--that would appeal to a lot of people.

I just love Dennis so much.
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:32 AM
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64. The perfect summation of our "leadership" in this country:
"Oh, yeah, we went into a war, they didn't tell the truth and all these people died. Sorry about that." Please pass the mustard and let's talk about the future now. OK?

That's exactly what they're saying.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:53 AM
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66. Kooch is one of the few real Democrats in congress.
Among a slew of Neos.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:59 AM
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67. K&R!!!
- NOW DAMMIT!!!!
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:00 AM
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68. "There's a difference between just being wrong and lying. And there's a pattern of lies here."
We've been saying this for years. Wrong decision once or twice, yeah, benefit of doubt, everyone's human. (Even the chimperor.) But Bush**'s penchant for managing self-made disasters by pointing the finger of blame elsewhere has been going on since he started squatting in the oval office. It's never his fault; he was misled, no one could have predicted, mistakes were made....

HUNDREDS OF TIMES??

There is no good reason why this murderer and his cabal aren't up to their necks in impeachment hearings at this very moment. There are only feeble and easily dismissed excuses.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:36 AM
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71. kr
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Preening Fop Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:43 AM
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72. A Rare Politician with a Conscience. Could the rest be nothing more than Self Serving Sociopaths?
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 06:45 AM by Preening Fop
:nuke: :patriot: :nuke:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:52 AM
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73. K&R. Go, Dennis! n/t
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:58 AM
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74. Wow, I was cynical at first, but his comments reminded me of what's right
I don't know that it practically helps us win the white house to have this going on at the same time as an election campaign, but dammit... he is 100% correct, and no, we can't become so callous that we don't care when innocent people are killed because we were lied - literally, truly lied into an unjustifiable war.

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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:18 AM
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75. I tip my hat
to a TRUE patriot. He is one great man.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:34 AM
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76. This is exactly why I supported Kucinich for POTUS
Unfortunately he dropped out before the North Carolina primary came along, otherwise he WOULD have received my vote. He really is a true patriot of the best kind. Can y'all imagine how ethical Congress would become were Kucinich Speaker of the House in place of Nancy Pelosi? I wish Dem voters would begin to push for Kucinich for Speaker now.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 08:13 AM
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77. I agree. I've thought since '04 that the best position for him
would be Speaker.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 08:24 AM
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78. If you listen to Medved or any of those other neo-con talk creeps,
you will hear, "They were 'volunteers'!", like being a volunteer meant that you were expendable.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:30 AM
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82. The volunteer argument could hold if they actually had a choice now
Which they don't. It isn't like they can put in their two weeks notice and come home.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:50 AM
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84. And, the role of National Guard has changed since GWB
joined that "champagne unit" during the Vietnam War. Bush had no chance of seeing action, could show up when it was convenient, and could receive an "early out" without risking a less than honorable discharge.

Like you said, normally, if someone volunteers for something, they can volunteer themselves out.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 08:30 AM
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79. Representative Dennis Kucinich simply...............
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 08:31 AM by lisainmilo


ROCKS!


He is a true and faithful servant of the people, of moral justice, a true hero that people can look up to. Thank you Dennis!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:19 PM
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85. Since the passing of the Nat. Sec. Act of 1947 our moral compass is haywire
The loopholes allowing for covert operations, to the detriment of all other sane activity, have ended up destroying whatever wise policy moves the people have tried to implement.

Great post Kpete ! K&R and i'm saving as a bookmark for future reference.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:04 PM
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86. People say what they will about his presidential run...we should be damn
glad Kucinich never gives up.


..and he is not kidding about the US needing a reset of it's moral compass-BIGTIME!!

Go Dennis...and THANK YOU!!!!!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:40 PM
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87. Don't blame me, I voted for Kucinich. n/t
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