Things I learned on DU today.

[El Pinko]

Tim Russert was a REALLY good guy, a moderate, and someone we'll all miss.

George Bush is kind of a bad president, but nowhere near as bad as Saddam Hussein or Hitler.

High gas prices (and apparently the economic depression, increased poverty, hunger and death that come with them) are a good thing.




:eyes:



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3442680

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3441981

I won't even post a link on Russert - there must be a half-dozen threads defending that shill that are bouncing up and down GD right now.

[Fox Mulder]

1. You read that here?

Geez.

[El Pinko]

4. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3442680

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3441981

I won't even post a link on Russert - there must be a half-dozen threads defending that shill that are bouncing up and down GD right now.

[orleans]

2. hey--we learn something new every day. right? (cough) n/t

[Rex]

3. Back in the day quite a few people here loved Boortz and would

admonish anyone who spoke ill of his stupidity. They all but dried up, even the Safire crowd crooned up about their beloved 'pundit'. I bet you there are some here who will defend Novak after he goes to Hell...er...passes away. Shows DU is quite the moderate site. Liberal slant my ass.

[El Pinko]

5. I've heard the name Boortz but don't know who he is.

Sounds like I'm not missing much. Probably like that clown they put on CNN recently - I forget his name, right-wing radio guy that said all the women made homeless by Katrina should become hookers- some mormon guy, I think - ex-alcoholic. Can't think of his name for the life of me.

[Rex]

7. Sounds like Glenn Beck, one of the worst 'pundits' ever to speak

into a microphone. CNN paid him 50 million!

[El Pinko]

11. That's it. What a twit. Didn't he have his prostate surgery on live TV or something?

ugh.

[El Pinko]

9. .

.

[Rex]

10. Not sure, he often gives a disclaimer that he is stupid and crazy

yet people eat his shit up like it was a snickers bar. Guess some people need a fool to lie to them to make them feel better. Crazy world.

[Canuckistanian]

23. There were also those who loved Ron Paul

"A decent man" "he voted against war", "much-beloved in Texas" etc.

Then as the stories came out about his misogyny, his anti-government and anti-regulation stances, those post of praise quickly died out.

He's no hero to progressives.

[mcctatas]

6. Whether or not Russert was a good guy is something that

can only be known by the people who knew him best, friends, family and co-workers. Whether or not he was a good journalist is a different kind of debate. As for bush being "kind of a bad president, but nowhere near as bad as Saddam Hussein or Hitler", kind of depends on your experiences. To me, he is far worse than Hussein and marginally better than Hitler, but if you asked a Kurdish person living in Iraq, the opinion might be different. High gas prices are a hardship for everyone, but relatively cheap gas has been one of the things that has gotten us to where we are today, our government has failed us, de-regulation and gutting of federal agencies have helped get us where we are today, free-markets that aren't really free but heavily subsidized, have helped us along the path to economic depression, increased poverty, hunger and death....
the price of gas has very little to do with it (IMHO)

[devilgrrl]

8. Oh, your're just upset about the nation moving so far too the right that there's no turning back.

Come now, we need to do things like spy on employees, otherwise they'd steal everything that wasn't nailed down. And they'd slack off if you didn't have a camera on them all day. You can't have that, time is money. Metropolis yes! :woohoo:

Don't worry son, you'll get over it.

Say? Did you know that people are poor because they're lazy?

:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:

[Echo In Light]

13. A far rightward shifted country that naturally doesn't comprehend, nor is cognizant of...

...its collective affliction.

Rock on, Devilgrrl...

[vincent_vega_lives]

12. Mass graves

You claimed they were only soldiers killed in the war with Iran, or anti-Saddam "insurgents". Every Iraqi Saddam killed was considered an "Anti-Saddam insurgent" by Saddam.

You sould like Saddam's PR manager.



http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/13/iraq.graves/index.html


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2956129.stm

http://www.aina.org/news/20050415100219.htm

-http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3014205.stm

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32552

Most of the graves discovered to date correspond to one of five major atrocities perpetrated by the regime.

-The 1983 attack against Kurdish citizens belonging to the Barzani tribe, 8,000 of whom were rounded up by the regime in northern Iraq and executed in deserts at great distances from their homes.

-The 1988 Anfal campaign, during which as many as 182,000 people disappeared. Most of the men were separated from their families and were executed in deserts in the west and southwest of Iraq. The remains of some of their wives and children have also been found in mass graves.

-Chemical attacks against Kurdish villages from 1986 to 1988, including the Halabja attack, when the Iraqi Air Force dropped sarin, VX and tabun chemical agents on the civilian population, killing 5,000 people immediately and causing long-term medical problems, related deaths, and birth defects among the progeny of thousands more.

-The 1991 massacre of Iraqi Shi’a Muslims after the Shi’a uprising at the end of the Gulf war, in which tens of thousands of soldiers and civilians in such regions as Basra and Al-Hillah were killed.

-The 1991 Kurdish massacre, which targeted civilians and soldiers who fought for autonomy in northern Iraq after the Gulf war.

[NNN0LHI]

15. When you need to cite WorldNut daily to make your point you automatically lose

Simple as that.

Got any info from Talon news?

Don

[vincent_vega_lives]

26. Good for you

but Not sure what you think I have lost. :shrug:

[nashville_brook]

28. so true.

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. So you are defending our invasion of Iraq?

Is that your point?

[Echo In Light]

20. Some have been culturally trained to deem any opposing views as "crazy"

LOL...or hadn't you noticed that trend here at DU? ;)

It goes something like this: You mean you disagree with me? Well then you're ignorant and crazy!

Just watch for it: there are a many posters here who seem to relish spewing big heaps of personal insults/criticism/name-calling upon anyone they deem as too liberal, which apparently translates into "crazy," "moonbat," "tinfoil," etc

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. LOL

And I used to think it was okay to be liberal here. :crazy:

[Echo In Light]

22. "America has one political party with two right wings." - Gore Vidal

[vincent_vega_lives]

25. Huh? since when is it liberal

to deny that Saddam Hussain was a murderous dictator simply because GWB is president?

[vincent_vega_lives]

24. No. next presumption.(n/t)

[Buzz Clik]

14. Russert's death must be a needed source of joy for you.

It's good to have a bright spot in the midst of dark times.

[rucky]

16. Tim Russert died? Got any links for that one, smart guy?

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. My thread about a real hero sank

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3445379

Some days I really wonder about this place.

[Schema Thing]

31. If it makes you feel better,

I copied and pasted your post onto another discussion board's thread about America's view of it's military men.


Unfortunately, so far no one has commented on it there either. Not that I'm surprised.

:shrug:

[Major Hogwash]

19. Kool-aid is served at DU on a daily basis.

You just have to be careful how much you want to watch the other ones guzzle it down so fast.

[Neshanic]

27. There should be a forum called "Republican Love and The People That Love Them".

[mzmolly]

29. I learned that I have to agree with others on Tim Russert

or I'll have the Tim Russert sucks mantra shoved down my throat in 50 threads.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QWdq7hg4dLU

[Time for change]

30. It's possible or even probable that those who refer to Russert as a moderate really believe it

I don't see it that way, however:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/31

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1941289

Like many others, I was shocked when I first heard of Russert's death. But why should that shock or his death cause me to change my opinion of him?

I have to say too that I was disappointed to hear Obama praise him in such strong terms. Perhaps it seems hypocritcal of me to say that while using an Obama avatar. But whereas there are many many good reasons for supporting Obama's run for president -- and I do -- that doesn't mean that I can't disagree with him on some issues or criticize him or be disappointed in him.

While I'm willing to admit that Obama's praise of Russert might have been motivated by nothing but the most noble sentiments, I have to say that I simply cannot understand it, no matter how hard I try. Had Russert lived, one of his major objectives in the next few months, if his history is any guide, would have been to destroy Obama's candidacy, while still appearing to be the tough but fair and unbiased journalist that many believe him to be. Is it possible that Obama doesn't know that? Maybe he doesn't. Or, maybe I'm wrong about that, though I doubt it. I just cannot understand it.