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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:22 PM
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New Englanders: a dialect question
Soda, pop, or something else?

Working on a book and want to get it right!

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:32 PM
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1. When I lived there, I used the generic "a coke" but definitely soda and not pop.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:33 PM
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2. I call it soda
I live in CT.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:33 PM
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3. Soda
I grew up in Central NYS. Out here in the mid-West they tend to say pop.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:36 PM
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9. Except in WI/Great Lakes...where we say 'soda'
When someone says 'pop' around here, they probably come from IL, IN or OH.
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SocratesInSpirit Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:35 PM
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4. Speaking as a born-and-bred New Englander
I say soda. A small minority of (much) older New Englanders might call it tonic. But I've never heard a native say pop... ever. :)
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 09:45 AM
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40. Go with "soda"
Born and raised in Massachusetts and lived in Maine for several years. A rare few people I have known use the word "tonic" but "soda" has been the standard.
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:35 PM
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5. Tonic.
Seriously, it's tonic.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:04 PM
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28. Yep
Tonic
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:09 AM
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30. Hey, you.
I saw that you're back in New England.

Nice. I'm kind of jealous.

Actually, I'm heading out that way for a visit next month--my brother and his wife (way down south in Framingham) are having a baby! So, huzzah, a visit. We're planning to hit F'ham, coastal NH, the Lakes Region, Sebago Lake, and maybe the North Shore.

I'm sitting here finding it kind of interesting that you, originally from the city of sin, and my mom, your contemporary from Ipswich, both ended up in NH. She's a bit south of you, but only 30 miles or so.

Funny.

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:18 AM
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36. Most crazy people from the North Shore end up in NH
The entire town of North Conway is populated with people from the Lynn, Salem and Danvers areas.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:35 PM
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6. In Rhode Island, a milkshake is a "cabinet"
Go figure. At least it used to be in the old diners and "spas" (another strange term for a luncheonette type place)
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:35 PM
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7. Soda.
Eastern Mass., but some of the older people may call it "tonic."
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:36 PM
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8. Tonic. and water came from the bubblah.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:37 PM
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10. Do they say 'bubbler' in New England!?
I thought that was a Wisconsin-only thing.

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SocratesInSpirit Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:39 PM
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12. Yes, they do!
When I worked in the metro-NYC area, no one knew what a "bubbler" was. They call it a water fountain.

And sprinkles are "jimmies". :D

(I currently live in CT but grew up in "Woosta", MA)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:42 PM
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13. hells yes, born and raised 6 miles north of Boston and even though i now live in Ca.
it will always be a bubblah and stuff is still wicked pissa.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:51 PM
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18. The funniest dialect joke ever - but true
Woman new to New England encounters neighborhood child of same approximate age as her daughter and tells child that she can't wait until the two girls meet. The little Rhode Island girl, just to make conversation, asks the mother:

"Does she have PSDS?"

"PSDS?" replies the mother, "What is PSDS" thinking it's a dread disease.

"You know, "said the frustrated child "PSDS" as she indicated her own


















EARRRINGS!!!!! PSDS = Pierced Ears!!!!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:54 PM
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19. hehe.
you know what's funny, i left Meffa 11 years ago when i was 30, here in Ca. i have an accent, que the people that do horrible impressions of an NE accent, when i go back east to visit people ask me where i'm from.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:23 AM
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33. My parents (not native New Englanders) recalled being on a train...
... and overhearing a loud conversation about who had and hadn't "gone to the potty" the night before. ("Did Joan go to the potty?" "She tried." etc.) They finally realized "potty" was "party!"

For the record, I am a native of Connecticut and it's definitely "soda." (And subway sandwiches in Connecticut are "grinders" -- I thought everybody called them that!)
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:43 PM
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14. Not in NWestern Ma...
It's a water fountain there.
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:45 PM
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16. Childhood bubbler drinker here.
In eastern MA and southern NH, anyway.

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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:45 PM
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15. Hah! Yes! It's a fact. nt.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:38 PM
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11. it used to be 'tonic'- but
there are so many new people here that you never hear that much anymore.

I'd say 'soda' unless you are in a very cloistered area-- or talking about life in my small rural town as a kid- in which case it'd be tonic.

(half a century old)

peace~
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 05:51 PM
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17. In the Boston area "tonic" was very popular in the 60s and 70s
(can't speak for the other decades!)

A milkshake had no icecream
Clothes were taken to the cleanSers, not the cleaners

And AG Ramsey Clark's last name was pronounced "Clack" (I remember writing "Clack" on an exam just after moving there...got it marked wrong, unfairly in my view, since the teacher said "Clack").
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:12 PM
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20. Tonic or soda, not pop
I think pop is a midwestern term.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:13 PM
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21. http://popvssoda.com
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A-Long-Little-Doggie Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:26 PM
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22. Soda
and I always drank water out of a bubbler. I grew up in Attleboro and Auburn. Went to HS and college in Worcester. College was where I first found out that not everyone called a bubbler a bubbler!
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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:39 PM
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23. Soda in CT
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:51 PM
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24. Soda it is, then.
And thanks to all who responded for your help. The "tonic" thing came as news to me; maybe I can use it sometime.
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MassLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:08 PM
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29. yes, and you have to pronounce it correctly
In central Mass. you'd hear "tonic" pronounced "tawnic" with a strong "awe" sound.

For the record, I grew up in western Mass., and we always called it "soda." :-)
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:58 PM
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25. I lived in Massachusetts for a few years
They ALWAYS called it soda up there
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:00 PM
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26. "Tonic", Merrimack Valley MA.
And "Coke".
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:22 PM
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27. In Rhode Island we called it soda. My wife, who is from Mass., called it tonic.
I've heard pop used, but not while living in New England.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:14 AM
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31. I am your answer from Heaven
I think falling down on your knees in gratitude is the least you can do. Naming a son after me is acceptable.


Enjoy.










:-)
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:37 AM
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35. Yeah, but
that map doesn't even mention what New Englanders call fizzy beverages: tonic!

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 10:41 AM
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41. I'm a New Englander
I've never heard the phrase used outside of a "gin and tonic". :shrug:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:17 AM
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32. In Canada, it's pop
I NEVER heard anyone use "soda", unless it was a part of "Cream Soda" or "Club Soda".
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:25 AM
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34. I know in Michigan, it's "pap."
Or at least that's what my sister called it after living there a few years! (Just the way she said "pop.")
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:25 AM
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37. It's "soda" just about everywhere except pockets of Eastern MA.
There it's tonic.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 09:34 AM
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38. Soda. n/t
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 09:39 AM
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39. NY Albany area & PA east of Lancaster, rest of northeast = SODA
I found out the hard way when I moved from northern Ohio to Troy NY as a teenager - I took a beating for calling Coke "pop." It's SODA!!!
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