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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:43 PM
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Someone died! Time to pass judgment on them!
What say you, Yea or Nay?



And we knew him so well!:dunce:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:45 PM
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1. Can we just have an honest look at someone instead of throwing things down the memory hole?
Its destructive in the long run when they do this to people like Reagan and others. They're trying to re-write history.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:47 PM
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3. Why look at all?
Why the fuck judge someone because they died?


Why not just leave them alone?
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:49 PM
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7. Why leave them alone?
Public figures get judged in life and death. That's just the way it is.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:55 PM
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10. Yeah, in life everyone is judged.
But when people die, apparently the first thing that comes to mind is "Was this a good person?"......????


It's like they're not around to defend themselves anymore and people see an opportunity to let out their inner narcisists and just go buckwild with scrutiny.

It's pretty much a pile-on.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:58 PM
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12. For every post I see criticizing Russert I've seen two complaining about the criticism.
Not much of a pile on.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 10:09 AM
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21. Well I can pretty much guarantee you that I'm not a narcisist.
I just didn't like the guy and I'm not about to heap praise on him or ignore his faults simply because he's dead.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:57 PM
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11. The media is judging him and not leaving him alone.
But only one side of that judgment is allowed, apparently.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:52 PM
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9. It is on the news. It is on the record . This is not about news.
It is about a person.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:47 PM
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2. I'm just tired of famous people dropping like flies.
I've lost count in the past month or so.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:48 PM
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4. Time for some infamous people to drop like flies!
:woohoo:

I'd say "Time for some non-famous people to drop like flies" except nobody knows them, so therefore they do not count.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:48 PM
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5. If you insist on eulogizing them 24 hours straight - they will be scrutinized
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:49 PM
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6. Just search the archives.
Russert was known to many here before his ascendancy.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 06:49 PM
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8. I'm so ashamed
I never had anything negative to say about Pumpkinhead or his peculiar brand of insider reportage when he was alive, and here I am, recounting specific instances when he misused his elevated media perch or failed to live up to any standards of journalism (let alone the highest standards) now that he's shuffled off his mortal coil.

I am so ashamed of myself. Thanks for setting me straight, Brother Loony.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:15 PM
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13. Thank you
things are really getting out of hand.

It reminds me of a friend's father who left a letter to be read at his funeral. It listed all the people he was mad at as well as other grudges he held. Someone actually read it and it left the attendees puzzled - did they just say goodbye - or is this life after death?

When people die, it's over.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:31 PM
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14. Is it wrong to say that in my honest assessment he was a good person but a lousy journalist?
As was commented on up-thread we do ourselves no service by re-writing history just because people die. And that goes both ways. Kennedy is held in such high regard largely because of his death. He was a good President who may have been a great one if he'd lived to serve his 8 years, but he is certainly overrated because he was assassinated.

On the other hand, Reagan was a shitty President who wasn't really all that popular when he was in office but the right wingers have used his death to re-write history and make it seem otherwise.
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:41 PM
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15. People Make Choices
Russert chose to make a lot of money as a celebrity, as opposed to making somewhat less money as a true journalist. We all saw his act, and we all know what he was about. Frankly he does not deserved to be lauded as a great American and a great journalist.

We've been duly instructed here on DU and other places that it's bad manners to say what we really think. I disagree. I didn't know Tim Russert and I doubt that many people here did either. I don't think it's shameful not to mourn his death. He was a public figure who lived by the choices he made.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:43 PM
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16. Our Hisses Are Less for Russert and More for the Heathers Who Are Humping the Corpse
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:45 PM
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17. I'm ashamed of DU today
I made a thread yesterday talking about the Ghouls on RW sites taking it to Russert hours after his death, and then I see we are doing the same thing.

So many wanna-be badasses on this board.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:47 PM
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18. Danny Davis (Nashville Brass) died the day before Russert.
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 10:47 PM by lpbk2713


I never heard anything about it until today. Media must have been too preoccupied with the passing of one of their own. :shrug:


Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_in_2008




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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:56 PM
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19. I prefer to be judgmental and critical of live people
After they die, I feel sorry for the loss for those who loved them. And still critical of them, but prefer it when they are alive and can hear me.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:06 PM
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20. i, for one. appreciate the brevity of your sermon.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 10:13 AM
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22. Anyone know the names and biography of
the troops who died in Iraq? Anyone?

I could see maybe an evening to Russert and his career, on NBC. Not the entire cable news network, and not for the entire weekend.
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