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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:23 PM
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McCain Belatedly Cancel Fundraiser With Man Who Says Rape Victims Should Just "Enjoy It."
It is nice to hear that John McCain can go through the motions of being sensitive on gender issues, though McCain is still keeping the $300,000 raised by Clayton Williams. I guess its okay to accept the money, so long as you do not appear in a photo op with such a fund-raiser.

http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=desperado&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3AdesperadoPost%3A5d90b121-5a6b-41b3-a46c-6078178a68e8

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/06/mccain-cancels.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/14/mccain_says_no_to_returning_fu.html


McCain Says No to Returning Funds Raised by Controversial Oilman
Updated 4:09 p.m.
By Juliet Eilperin
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) will not return the $300,000 raised by a Texas Republican who joked in 1990 that women should submit to rape and "enjoy it."

Yesterday McCain cancelled a fundraiser that Texas oilman Clayton Williams was planning to hold at his Midland, Tex. home on Monday, after The Washington Post and ABC News questioned what the senator thought of Williams' remarks that women should give in while being raped. "As long as it's inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it," he said during his unsuccessful bid for governor against the late Ann Richards.


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Of course, Fox is trying to minimize it, since Williams did apologize for the "joke."

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/14/mccain-cancels-fundraiser-with-oilman-who-made-rape-joke/
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:25 PM
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1. Class act!
:thumbsup:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:28 PM
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2. Ol' Claytie, Class Act. And, silly me, once thought.....
that the 'pubs could not possibly find a bigger embarrassment, a more despicable character, to run against Ann.

Well, guess effing what?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:30 PM
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3. I guess he's finding out what a bunch of perverts his freeper friends are.
:rofl:

Hey Johnny you should have read the messages at Free Republic, Stormfront and the KKK. You might have picked up that they are pretty bigoted and sexist.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:30 PM
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4. The worst was when Williams wouldnt shake her Hand at their Debate
Im speaking from memory but backstage before their Debate she stuck her hand out and and he said "Im not going to shake your hand because Im going to call you a liar tonight". I saw a show on "debates" years later and Richards said it was at that point she knew she was going to win. He had been leading up to that point. Just for perspective he was considered a "straight talker" and "law and order" guy up to that point and a lot of people thought he was cool. But that moment at the debate showed just how little class he had, of course AFTER the handshake thing the DOGPILING commenced and the rape quote came out. HE SUCKS,
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:21 PM
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8. What About Comparing Ann Richards To A Head of Cattle?
It is nice that John "Maverick" McCain is setting himself apart by planning to attend a fundraiser with George Bush's old oil pals Clayton Williams:
Clayton Williams

http://home.earthlink.net/~zkkatz/page69.html

Texas Republicans had high hopes that this rootin' tootin' cowboy multimillionaire would take over the Governor's Mansion in 1990. But they would have had better luck if Claytie had been more like cowboy Tom Mix, the silent film star.

It seems that Claytie's jawbone wasn't connected to his brain bone, so he came up a few cows short of a stampede. In other words, he wasn't elected. He was no match for quick-witted State Treasurer Ann Richards. You remember her -- the 1988 Democratic National Convention keynoter who brought down the house when she said George Bush was born with a silver foot in his mouth.

Unlike Ann, Claytie could never make it in standup. Talking to reporters about the weather -- which most folks would consider a safe subject -- he joked that bad weather is like rape: "as long as it's inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it." Sounds like the boy did some prison time.

Things got worse when a convicted rapist repeated Claytie's bad joke and got sentenced just a week before the election.

Then Claytie bragged about his days as a young buck when he crossed the border into Mexico to pick up prostitutes. Well, so much for the Mexican vote. The ladies weren't too impressed with that, either.

And his extreme wealth became a liability when he admitted that he had paid no income taxes in 1986. His excuse: he had a bad year. Folks don't want to hear that when you're a multimillionaire.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:06 PM
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5. Wonder if Willaims is related to Tex Antwan.......
NYC Channel 5's former weatherman of the '60s -Tex Antwan describing what to do in a rape if you can't avoid it: "lay back and try to enjoy it!" (he was fired).
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abbeyco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:10 PM
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6. Here's my letter to McCain on this
Sorry if it seems disjointed, but I'm angry and speaking from the heart.

Fuck John Bush McCain

Dear Mr McCain - thankfully you finally decided (did your moral compass get the best of you??) to scrap your fundraiser with Clayton Williams.
Having been a rape victim and survivor, let me tell you, that with a gun to my head, I had no chance to "lay back and enjoy it" as your friend, Mr. Williams would suggest.
Dare you grow a pair - or a backbone and discuss with us voting women, how you plan to address any women's rights. Oh, that's right - you plan on letting men, maybe even rapists, dictate how we deal with our bodies for birth control and emergency contraception.

My thought is that you're too old school to understand all of the things that happen in society today - rape and incest - and that you have to force your stone-age beliefs in that women can't control their own bodies.

Walk one minute, let alone my nearly 90 minutes with my rapist, in my shoes and the fall out from that incident and tell me you can decide what's best for me.

I'll never trust you or the Republics with the charge of my body - you haven't earned it or respected me enough for it.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 03:17 AM
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16. I don't know what to say, but I can't let your post go without a response
:hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:

Anything I would write would be completely inadequate... there's no point in even trying.

I'm so sorry. And I'm so glad you survived.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:15 PM
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7. McCain's not giving back a penny Williams raised for him
Compare and contrast, class, with the response forced upon Barak Obama for what someone else said (ripped from context and shorn of any possible meaning). McCain's keeping the 300 grand, but he does have to cancel another fundraiser. Apparently, he's suffered enough, and we won't be hearing about McCain and Clayton Williams as the lead on the morning news shows for two solid weeks.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:30 PM
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9. Williams - Frequenting Mexican Prostitutes "Was Part of Growing Up in West Texas
Okay, lest people think that we are blowing up one brain fart, and that maybe Clayton Williams is an okay guy, here is Claytong Williams saying that frequenting Mexican prostitutes in his youth was "part of growing up in West Texas."

http://www.dallasobserver.com/2001-05-31/news/trick-town/

In Texas, the proximity to legal brothels is considered as much a natural resource as oil. Clayton Williams summed up this blasé attitude during his gubernatorial campaign with a casual and costly admission of frequenting Mexican prostitutes in his youth. "It's part of growing up in West Texas," he told wide-eyed reporters. "It was a lot different then. The houses were the only place you got serviced. It was kind of what the boys did at A&M."
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:03 AM
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10. I'm sure the fundraiser will now be private. n/t
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:08 AM
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11. McCain Shows Poor Judgment In Failing To Vet Him?
After all, if he is going to say that Obama should vet a vetter, why not vet, or at least run a google search for chrissakes, on a former candidate for governor of Texas.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:18 AM
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12. McCain lacks good judgement...
...only when it comes to what info people accidentally find out about him.

I am sure he doesn't care who advises or donates to him, as long as he doesn't get caught, or held accountable.
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:53 AM
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13. I went to school with his son. The asshole does not fall too far from the asshole tree.
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B.S. Lewis Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 02:40 AM
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14. I've never heard that quote
even though it is from 1990.

Frankly, I need to just stop thinking about it.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 02:41 AM
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15. My word!
I had hoped as a refugee from Texas, never to hear the name Clayton Williams again. Can't we keep these jackass Texans in Texas where they belong?
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 01:42 AM
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17. Has This Story Got Any Play On Network TV?
Of course, its on the internet, and the middle of the newspaper, but any play on network television?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:57 PM
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18. I'm the wrong person to ask
been TV free for about a decade. I don't watch.
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