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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:15 AM Original message |
“Integrity is for paupers!” |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks for posting this artlcle by itself. I read it within another thread earlier today. The only |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. You damned grave pisser! |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I had to go really bad |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Please - don't even joke about it. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. ok ok you are right. |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. That's exactly what's happening. Clarity is bad. Blind canonization is good. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
4. I had never heard that. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
5. was Podvin at the next table over? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Well he wrote it 1/9/02 |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. It is important that the author cite his sources for this |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. You're asking for, like, *proof* and stuff that Russert ever said that? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I believe Podvin |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. That's not how it works, sport. "I believe" all sorts of things - I can *assert* only those things |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. if Timmy was upset about the quote |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. So, once again you offer no proof that this conversation took place, just assume Russert was (1) |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. OH YES I AM CHALLENGING RUSSERTS CREDIBILITY |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. *STILL* no source for this supposed conversation, eh? About what I figured. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Deleted message |
apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Now just silly name-calling. Still no credible source, eh? Figures. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Hummmmmmmmmm very strange how you take up the lying media POV |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Hmmmmmmmmmmm very strange how you are unable to provide a credible source for your |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I'll put my credibility up against yours any day here buddy |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. You would be unwise to do that - I back up my assertions with proof. You do not. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Show me ONE post you have made |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Still no evidence to back up your OP, eh? About what I figured... |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
87. And when asked for proof about one you've made |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 05:28 AM Response to Reply #67 |
121. What's Funny is You Have Nothing |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. Total Freeper Arguing Tactic |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. LOL |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. So, I can make up any conversation I want and not provide proof for it and that's okey-dokey, eh? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Deleted sub-thread |
apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Imagine that: providing proof for one's assertions is now considered a "freeper" tactic... |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Name calling? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Still no credible source, huh? About what I reckoned. n/t. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Podvin is credible |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Not without proof, he's not. n/t. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Tim Russert let bush lie us into a war THAT IS UNDENIABLE |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Trying to change the subject does not alter the fact that your credibility is zero, since you refuse |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. They aren't MY assertions |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Still waiting on that post where you provide evidence for your assertions. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Deleted sub-thread |
Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #61 |
81. The only "proof" needed: |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Wrong - the burden of proof is in on the one making the assertion. Period. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
78. Deleted message |
apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Yeah, asking for *evidence* for a charge or assertion made is just such a burden, just like Bush |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Deleted message |
apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Yes ye of failure to understand how things work in the world of grown-ups: |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. "alleged" quote? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #24 |
115. What credibility? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. and please remember who has made millions of this war and who Timmy's employer was |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Did Timmy "believe" in WMDs in Iraq? It really is that simple, sport |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. No, sport, it's really this simple: where is the referenced source for this supposed conversation? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Yes sport is really is that simple |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Still no credible source, eh? So we try to change the subject. Typical. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. No sport Podvin IS credible |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. No, he's not - not without a verification of his source for this conversation. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I am NOT changing the subject |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. You bet you are - or at least trying to. The "subject" is the source for this supposed conversation |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. RUSSERT DID NOT REFUTE IT |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. Still not a single shred of credible evidence to post, eh? Typical. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. It's getting old sweetie is this how you got your post count up so fast? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Yeah, getting real old that you still refuse to provide *PROOF* for your assertions. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. ALL DAY TO GET THAT POST COUNT UP? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. ALL DAY TO PROVIDE PROOF FOR YOUR OP? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Could you please show me where YOU challenged bush on his WMD lies? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. This isn't about *ME*, sport - but I well understand why you're anxious to change the subject. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Show me ONE example where Podvin was proven wrong about anything |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Sorry, sport, but that's not how it works in the real world: the onus is on the one making the claim |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. WHY THE MEDIA LIES |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Now with the cut-and-paste job, but *STILL* no credible link to a source for this supposed |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Deleted sub-thread |
hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. that is the evidence |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. very strange indeed |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
79. not really |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #45 |
127. "You are straining at gnats while swallowing camels." |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. well it is a Bible verse that seemed apropo |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. I posted earlier in this thread about it. I even did a search to see if that comment |
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otherlander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
7. Now I want to change my sigline |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
8. “Deep Throat: -The Missing Footage”. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
10. K&R |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
13. He'll always be remembered for that, won't he? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
15. Obviously, talking heads and politicians are highly overpaid. |
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InkAddict (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
20. My ex-boss said something similar. |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
28. MEDIA WHORE # 1 Without A Doubt |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
40. RIP Tim "everything is presumed to be off the record" Russert. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
70. Whoa. Thanks for posting |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Deleted message |
kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
75. The executives at G.E. viewed with hostility the Democratic Party that wanted to burden them |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
76. Still waiting for some credible evidence for this OP.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Deleted sub-thread |
Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
80. Garbage. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. It's easy to find out who David Podvin is...IF you really want to know. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Thank you |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. A Google search shows links to other things he's written. |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. from what I gather at this link a very shy blogger |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. I am not willing to trust a shy blogger providing so little info about... |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. I agree with you |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Common Dreams thinks he's ok |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #95 |
111. For that article, David Podvin has another secret source. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. By Buzzflash Contributing Writer David Podvin |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Who is silverback? |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Stephen Marshall co-founder and blogger at GNN |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. ok you take a blogger's word about another blogger word? |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. I just added more to the link |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. I know that's fine |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. you might remember some of Stephen Marshall's work |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Thanks |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I agree |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Maybe you would find this interesting it's about David's Partner |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Did you know she is also a member of DU? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. ! |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Here's a couple of photos of Kay with Clinton |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 02:40 AM Response to Reply #88 |
119. I did the same thing. Wiki is not the best, but odd he's not on there. nt |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #80 |
90. Who is Tim Russert? |
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bow-tie (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #80 |
116. Since I've been |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 05:57 AM Response to Reply #116 |
124. Right on..... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #124 |
128. They're not clever at all. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #116 |
125. all these insinuations about Duers being RW trolls |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
107. WOW you're getting pounced on by a group of newly |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. I've been here for years, and I consider that article garbage. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 05:33 AM Response to Reply #107 |
122. yup |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
110. Now there's an obituary. Great article |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. I still miss The Horse very much too, Hardhead. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #110 |
129. Wow. Great Find |
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sammythecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-15-08 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
113. Thanks very much for posting this. |
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B.S. Lewis (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 02:10 AM Response to Original message |
117. Interesting article, thanks. There are definitely reasons to dislike TR |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 04:54 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Yes, we are constantly infighting and sniping at each other. |
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B.S. Lewis (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #120 |
131. Haha, ok thanks |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
118. . |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 05:35 AM Response to Original message |
123. I Believe It.... because Russert Had Shit for Intehrity |
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vanboggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
126. Finally some sanity |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
132. These people who take millions from GE and other |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Tim Russert; quintessential front man for General Electric... |
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