ProSense
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Sun Jun-15-08 04:15 PM
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Bush has seven months remaining in office |
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Four months from now, on Nov. 4, Republicans up for re-election this year will know whether or not they're keeping their jobs.
Between now and then, the Repubs aren't going vote to impeach Bush, and it's highly unlikely that he will be removed from office.
So what's next? Acknowledging that any action will likely take place after Bush is out of the WH, what's will be the most effective way of dealing with the crimes of the Bush administration?
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Sun Jun-15-08 04:17 PM
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1. President Obama appoints the most competent AG he can find. |
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Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 04:40 PM by Brigid
And said AG starts digging. Or maybe it's special prosecutor time?
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Sun Jun-15-08 04:24 PM
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3. Yes. Bring it all out in the open |
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and give the public an education in how they were deceived. Don't let the conservatives re-write history and hide their crimes this time.
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Sun Jun-15-08 04:27 PM
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4. Vincent Bugliosi has a case assembled for murder in the 1st degree |
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Says he's ready to go to court. Check it out here
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Sun Jun-15-08 04:46 PM
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8. whoa! I have to buy this book! |
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from the link:
"<snip> The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, in it, I put together a case against George Bush that could result—it absolutely could result in his being prosecuted for first-degree murder in an American courtroom. I set forth the legal architecture against him, the overwhelming evidence of his guilt and the jurisdiction to prosecute him. And I say that if justice means anything at all in America, and if we’re not going to forget about these 4,000 young American soldiers who are in their cold graves right now as I am talking to you and who came back from George Bush’s war in a box or a jar of ashes, I say we have no choice but to bring murder charges against the son of privilege from Crawford, Texas.
I may be sounding presumptuous to you right now, Amy and Juan, but I’m telling you this: I am going after George Bush. I may not succeed, but I’m not going to be satisfied until I see him in an American courtroom being prosecuted for first-degree murder. "
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Sun Jun-15-08 05:40 PM
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15. As much as I like Bugliosi, and always have, and |
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as much as I wish Assface could be prosecuted for murder, his legal theories are so out there as to be laughable. His premise is a great one, if he were writing fiction, but taking him seriously on this one is to head down the wrong, wrong road.
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Sun Jun-15-08 08:48 PM
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18. What do you like him for? |
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Mon Jun-16-08 08:00 AM
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He takes what could be dry legal recollections and turns them into readable stories, close to fiction.
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Sun Jun-15-08 09:43 PM
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20. Are you a legal expert? Care to elaborate on what you wrote? |
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Mon Jun-16-08 08:01 AM
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Mon Jun-16-08 09:07 PM
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24. Your reply made me LOL |
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Tue Jun-17-08 04:50 PM
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27. I felt bad about that response |
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It's proof that you really need to be careful when framing questions, but I regret being so glib.
The reason for not elaborating is simple: it's a long, complicated explanation that, if I were teaching a law school class on criminal procedure, it would take an hour or two to complete, at a minimum. I lack the time, energy, or incentive to work here, especially for free. People have access to a lot of resources, and - watch how I loop this around and back - if they read the book and then frame their questions carefully, they can find the answers.
But, yeah, on first glance, it's a funny answer, and I'm glad it gave you a laugh.
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Sun Jun-15-08 05:55 PM
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17. I posted an Obama statement on this a wwek or two ago... |
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...he basically said that he and his A.G. are going to sit down and reverse every piece of Bush legislation that violates the Constitution.
:patriot:
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Mon Jun-16-08 10:40 AM
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23. He did say that. Excellent. n/t |
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Sun Jun-15-08 04:18 PM
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2. let's drop them off in Baghdad |
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outside the green zone. That would be a fitting retirement for the lot of them.
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Sun Jun-15-08 04:49 PM
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9. How about that neighborhood where McCain went for a stroll and Petraeus drives in an unarmored car, |
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like any Sunday afternoon in Indiana?
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Sun Jun-15-08 04:36 PM
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5. There is still the specter of a blanket pardon before he leaves office |
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Sun Jun-15-08 04:50 PM
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10. A blanket pardon? Did Michael Jackson's son do something wrong? |
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Sun Jun-15-08 04:42 PM
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6. Investigate everything... |
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Change all the leadership at the Intelligence agencies. Make sure all the rocks have been uncovered. Appoint a strong Attorney-General. Re-evaluate every budget in the government with a fine tooth comb. Have a Committee report every 3 months as to the progress of the investigation. Let it be written in stone that this government belongs to the people - not any person or any bureaucracy.
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Sun Jun-15-08 04:45 PM
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7. Seven more minutes is too long. |
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If there was real Justice in America, Busholini & Darth would have been Impeached in early 2004.
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Sun Jun-15-08 05:10 PM
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Sun Jun-15-08 05:15 PM
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12. Review all those signing statements. Re-establish accountability at the Dept. of Defence re: $. |
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Re-establish oversight of all Departments. Give Congressional committees a heads up to investigate their specialties, make findings as public as possible. Get some Constitutional specialists into the AG's office.
That's off the top of my head. But, main point, impeachment isn't our *only* option for redress, imho. We can, and ought to, dismantle the Bushco "legacy" one block, one trial, one Department at a time.
:kick:
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Sun Jun-15-08 05:35 PM
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some talented legal minds out there. They should be able to come up with a process to ensure accountability.
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Sun Jun-15-08 05:17 PM
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13. End the era of partisan hacks in high positions. |
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Sun Jun-15-08 05:50 PM
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16. Congress needs to clip his wings..and do it soon.. |
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He can still start a bunch of mischief and leave little cluster bomblets for Obama.. His daddy did it to Clinton (Somalia), and I'm sure he has something even worse, planned..
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Sun Jun-15-08 08:49 PM
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19. Plenty of time for impeachment and trial as far as I'm concerned. |
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Mon Jun-16-08 09:14 PM
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25. Hopefully, this will break the "chain of forgiveness" |
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Edited on Mon Jun-16-08 09:15 PM by Canuckistanian
Of Gerry Ford forgiving Nixon's crimes.
Of Clinton forgiving Ray-Gun's and GHW Bush's crimes.
Damn it, SOMEONE has to call out at least ONE of these bastards.
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Mon Jun-16-08 09:18 PM
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26. IF the SOB actually leaves office, he'll pardon himself, and Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, et al |
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for anything and everything.
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