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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:02 PM
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The Daily Howler Is Very Diplomatic on the Timmy Matter
Edited on Mon Jun-16-08 05:04 PM by Crisco
Here at THE HOWLER, we didn’t know Tim Russert, although we have no trouble believing that he really was, on a personal basis, the nicest guy in the world, as so many have said this past weekend. He was nice enough to take part in the 1997 “Funniest Celebrity in Washington Contest,” a charity event in which we’re semi-vaguely involved. (Chris Matthews won that year, though we’d have voted differently. Lieberman took the prize the next year, in an obvious win.) The last time we interacted with Tim was at another comedy event, up in Manchester, the weekend before the 2000 New Hampshire primary. (Given the location, impressionist Jim Morris got to do his superlative bit in which Tom Brokaw tries to interview Paul Tsongas—and can’t quite make out what he’s saying.) Shortly before the hilarity started, Tim sidled up to us and said, “So what’s going on, Somerby? Heh heh heh heh.” We were a bit surprised when he did that; given his massive influence, we could also see why people inside the Washington sphere would want to be friends with this very cheerful, very powerful person. In his insinuative “heh heh heh heh,” we recall the spirit of fun we’ve heard described all weekend.

Based on what we saw first-hand, we would guess that Brother Russert really was the nicest guy in the world.

Sometimes, though, “nicest guys in the world” are the last to challenge conventional wisdom—even when it desperately needs to be challenged, examined, hollered about. In Tim’s case, we think he showed poor judgment in various instances over the years, as we’re all inclined to do. Chris Matthews touched on one possible error in judgment in his comments from Paris on Friday’s Countdown (text below). For once, we think Chris’ lack of impulse control served the public understanding—although he’s getting beaten up for his comment at various spots on the web.

Over the weekend, other members of the mainstream press corps did the thing that comes natural inside their group; they went on the air and told Group Tales, tales which reflected quite wondrously on Tim’s journalistic work—and, of course, by extension, most importantly, on them. Telling the truth is pretty much the last thing that enters these people’s heads. And so, they handed out novelized tales about Tim’s always brilliant work—failing to make the slightest attempt to be balanced, objective or truthful.

For the record, we’re talking about the way they described Tim’s work—not the way they described his decency as a person, a person they loved.

This isn’t really the week for such topics, though Tim’s death—more precisely, the torrent of industry propaganda it unleashed—demands that such topics be discussed. We’ll plan to look at some of those issues next week. In the meantime, we’ll suggest that you ponder a real possibility: The possibility that a guy who showed a fair amount of bad judgment—as we all do—may also have been the nicest guy in the world, just as you’ve seen him described.

We know—being “nicest guy” wasn’t Tim’s job. But then again, it’s also not nothing: “But what has gone is also not nothing/by the rule of the game something has gone.”

The guy who wrote those books about dads is the same guy who gave those embarrassing answers in that interview with Bill Moyers. (In fairness, we’re inclined to think that Moyers overstated one alleged problem.) Predictably enough, Tim’s colleagues told you about the books; that interview got disappeared—along with the (inevitable) human shortcomings behind it. And no, they didn’t necessarily do that out of respect; it’s what they do in every circumstance. The instinctive refusal to tell you the truth lies at the heart of their culture.



http://dailyhowler.com/
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:10 PM
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1. WOW....Somerby has done it better than anything I've read here, and that's saying something.
the Tom Paine thread was right up there, but Somerby brings some personal insight, as well as a bit of almost-insider knowledge of the incestuous Beltway scene to his excellent analysis (we all know who his college roommate was....)

in case you don't have that youtube vid of Moyers undressing the man, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfqr7qLBQJ4
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:19 PM
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2. librechick (sic?) with another excellent analysis
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:26 PM
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3. My Own Was Fairly Caustic
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:47 AM
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4. no arguments from me on that one. I added a comment of my own
necromancers, too, if you will
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:18 PM
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5. ok, i'm slow
what does that picture mean?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 03:54 PM
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6. here
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:26 PM
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7. I'm having a hard time seeing what Matthews said about Russert that he is referring to
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:51 PM
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10. Tweety had a moment of honesty
perhaps it was the early morning hour in Paris that allowed his tongue to speak the truth for one moment. Honesty we'll never hear again from anyone at NBC/MSNBC about Russert and how he was a Bush/Cheney/Rummy/Rice enabler in selling the Iraq War.

Matthews gave some initial thoughts, then said, "It may be tricky to say this, and I'll say it." He continued:

I said, 'How can you believe this war is justified.' And he said, 'The nuclear thing. If they have a bomb that they can use we got to deal with it. We can't walk away from that. And that to me was the essence of what was wrong with the whole case for the war. They knew the argument that would sell with Mr. America, with the regular guy, with the true American patriot. They used the argument that would sell.


http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/generalities/how_ff_became_wpitw_87306.asp#more
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:45 PM
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8. "failing to make the slightest attempt to be balanced, objective or truthful"
Isn't that what some of DU has been railing about? And other parts of DU have been casting the aspersion 'grave dancer' on attempts to be truthful? (if not also balanced or objective).

But I don't think that "selling out" should be minimized as the kind of bad judgements that we all make sometimes.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:31 PM
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9. This is an incredible read....especially for "fallen away Catholics" ...you know who you are...
it's just a "Must Read." :-(
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:46 PM
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11. You know.....this is such an incredible read...I have to kick it hoping others will
have some questions answered about Russert and GE/NBC/MSNBC.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:54 PM
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12. Thanks, Crisco
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 08:55 PM by Canuckistanian
I have enormous repect for Somerby's opinions.

I've been reading DH ever since 1999 and the shameless crucifixion of Al Gore.

And I remember Russert's role in America's political discourse.

It wasn't pretty.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 06:01 PM
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13. can't believe this has gotten so little response
Potato fatigue?
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